W205 Official Pricing
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well, BMW does offer bumper to bumper warranty and to be fair that could easily equate to $3000 compared to MB self-paid service. However, I am just like you and I am comparing the new C with a beemer as well. So far I think the new c is still cheaper and better value to me because I value luxury and comfort more than performance.
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I guess the price increase somewhat makes sense... The "new" C class is no longer the entry MB...that belongs to the CLA. If the "new" C were priced as the current C...well then current C's will be sitting on the lot. Everything I've read so far seems to justify the price jump...but I guess we'll have to be the judge of that. I'm looking forward to September to see it up close and personal...I got one on order!!
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I want the driver assistance package, and some other things. So without nav and a sunroof, its:
48590
2800 (driver assistance)
990 (head up display)
2300 (leather interior)
800 (lighting)
460 (rear camera standalone)
970 (parktronic)
925 (freight)
$57835 - that's a car with no nav and no sunroof. Get those and you are in the low 60s. Oh, and you could even toss another $1200 onto it for the airmatic which was supposed to be standard!
MB has to be kidding us, its obvious they want to place most C sales into the C300.
48590
2800 (driver assistance)
990 (head up display)
2300 (leather interior)
800 (lighting)
460 (rear camera standalone)
970 (parktronic)
925 (freight)
$57835 - that's a car with no nav and no sunroof. Get those and you are in the low 60s. Oh, and you could even toss another $1200 onto it for the airmatic which was supposed to be standard!
MB has to be kidding us, its obvious they want to place most C sales into the C300.
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People asking for the 2015 E400 pricing:
E400 Sport/Luxury: $62,350
E400 4-MATIC Sport/Luxury: $64,850
The new E doesn't arrive until the 2017 model year.
I do agree that a C450 is going to be very expensive if sold here.
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E400 Sport/Luxury: $62,350
E400 4-MATIC Sport/Luxury: $64,850
The new E doesn't arrive until the 2017 model year.
I do agree that a C450 is going to be very expensive if sold here.
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Safety, convenience in stop and go traffic. I could probably do without the parktronic given the rear camera.
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If you want to use that logic, what did you do before air conditioning, power steering, disc power brakes, electric windshield wipers, central locking, great headlights, ABS brakes, power windows, alarm systems, shoulder harnesses, etc.
I understand that many features aren't necessary and we drove cars for many years that didn't have today's features. Let's embrace new things, especially those that make driving safer.
I understand that many features aren't necessary and we drove cars for many years that didn't have today's features. Let's embrace new things, especially those that make driving safer.
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If you want to use that logic, what did you do before air conditioning, power steering, disc power brakes, electric windshield wipers, central locking, great headlights, ABS brakes, power windows, alarm systems, shoulder harnesses, etc.
I understand that many features aren't necessary and we drove cars for many years that didn't have today's features. Let's embrace new things, especially those that make driving safer.
I understand that many features aren't necessary and we drove cars for many years that didn't have today's features. Let's embrace new things, especially those that make driving safer.
Nah, thats BS because those things have been on cars for years and years now and in a state like Texas you NEED A/C. Something that tells you a car in the next lane and stops the car when you aren't paying attention is just useless junk that makes today's drivers even more lazy and fosters all their terrible driving habits. You're going to compare windshield wipers to something that keeps the car in lane? One you can't do anything about from inside the car (rain) and the other you should be able to do anyways. Ridiculous argument IMO. I have nothing against technology, its great, but is also becoming a crutch for people who are simply clueless behind the wheel. Why pay attention to the road when the car will literally drive itself? Better drivers who are attentive, alert with a clear mind will make driving safer.
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Just because you pay attention doesn't mean you will not make mistakes. Having the technology doesn't mean you will forget everything you know about driving safely. 99% of the time you can be an alert and perfect driver. But for the 1 percent where you miss something, these systems can safe your's or a pedestrians life. I plan on getting the package myself too.
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Just because you pay attention doesn't mean you will not make mistakes. Having the technology doesn't mean you will forget everything you know about driving safely. 99% of the time you can be an alert and perfect driver. But for the 1 percent where you miss something, these systems can safe your's or a pedestrians life. I plan on getting the package myself too.
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Nah, thats BS because those things have been on cars for years and years now and in a state like Texas you NEED A/C. Something that tells you a car in the next lane and stops the car when you aren't paying attention is just useless junk that makes today's drivers even more lazy and fosters all their terrible driving habits. You're going to compare windshield wipers to something that keeps the car in lane? One you can't do anything about from inside the car (rain) and the other you should be able to do anyways. Ridiculous argument IMO. I have nothing against technology, its great, but is also becoming a crutch for people who are simply clueless behind the wheel. Why pay attention to the road when the car will literally drive itself? Better drivers who are attentive, alert with a clear mind will make driving safer.
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If you should ever "accidentally" begin to move into another drivers lane (who is in your blind-spot) and Active Lane-Keep Assist prevents an accident, let us know how you feel then. Of course, if you buy your cars without this valuable feature, good luck! The rest of us welcomes a little help in such a case.
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Just because you pay attention doesn't mean you will not make mistakes. Having the technology doesn't mean you will forget everything you know about driving safely. 99% of the time you can be an alert and perfect driver. But for the 1 percent where you miss something, these systems can safe your's or a pedestrians life. I plan on getting the package myself too.
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Useless junk?
If you should ever "accidentally" begin to move into another drivers lane (who is in your blind-spot) and Active Lane-Keep Assist prevents an accident, let us know how you feel then. Of course, if you buy your cars without this valuable feature, good luck! The rest of us welcomes a little help in such a case.
If you should ever "accidentally" begin to move into another drivers lane (who is in your blind-spot) and Active Lane-Keep Assist prevents an accident, let us know how you feel then. Of course, if you buy your cars without this valuable feature, good luck! The rest of us welcomes a little help in such a case.
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No offense, but you can't turn your head to see if there is a car in your blind spot? This is exactly the mind set I'm talking about. What do you do without this technology? 10 years from now people won't be able to drive without this crap. It breeds poor driving habits and skills is all I'm saying here. If I were trying to bring down the cost of say a C400 I would throw this mess out and get some other more enjoyable options that make the car more appealing instead of a bunch of nannies that try to do what I should be doing in the first place.
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Benz is moving toward the fully automated car when & if legislation permits. You either like the idea or you don't. I for one would not have a new Benz without Active Distronic.
But back to the pricing issue. When we started the W205 forum I warned US buyers that prices would have to go up more in line with global pricing or end up with a stripped down car to meet a sticker price.
Benz sales have risen by over 10% in the last year in the US but they cannot keep giving them away. Margins have been wafer thin compared with ROW.
But back to the pricing issue. When we started the W205 forum I warned US buyers that prices would have to go up more in line with global pricing or end up with a stripped down car to meet a sticker price.
Benz sales have risen by over 10% in the last year in the US but they cannot keep giving them away. Margins have been wafer thin compared with ROW.
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I'm about half with you on your points here. I agree and think that the active assistants are a bit much and create subconscious dependencies on the car to make up for **** poor driving, however I would still love to have the blind spot monitor on my next C. Heck, I don't even have a back up camera right now. When i'm building cars online, usually I skimp pretty hard on the safety and technology options in favor of more infotainment goodies
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Benz is moving toward the fully automated car when & if legislation permits. You either like the idea or you don't. I for one would not have a new Benz without Active Distronic.
But back to the pricing issue. When we started the W205 forum I warned US buyers that prices would have to go up more in line with global pricing or end up with a stripped down car to meet a sticker price.
Benz sales have risen by over 10% in the last year in the US but they cannot keep giving them away. Margins have been wafer thin compared with ROW.
But back to the pricing issue. When we started the W205 forum I warned US buyers that prices would have to go up more in line with global pricing or end up with a stripped down car to meet a sticker price.
Benz sales have risen by over 10% in the last year in the US but they cannot keep giving them away. Margins have been wafer thin compared with ROW.
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Blind spot assist has its purpose... there absolutely no one with significant driving experience that can say they have never looked over their shoulder, checked their mirrors, indicated, and then greeted by a car horn when they tried to change lanes.
It happens... I agree that this technology will foster a whole bunch of drivers who rely heavily upon the technology but the tech was designed to be used as Mercedes calls them "assist"
It happens... I agree that this technology will foster a whole bunch of drivers who rely heavily upon the technology but the tech was designed to be used as Mercedes calls them "assist"
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"Blind spot assist has its purpose... there absolutely no one with significant driving experience that can say they have never looked over their shoulder, checked their mirrors, indicated, and then greeted by a car horn when they tried to change lanes."
I know I have. Im good with this technology. The lane keeping stuff they can keep
I know I have. Im good with this technology. The lane keeping stuff they can keep
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