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Old Jan 1, 2016 | 12:14 PM
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+1.

This is more true for leases. There are so many variables in a lease, it is easy to miss out something at the dealership.
Its good to get all the numbers at home by internet/phone and take your time to analyze them and compare deals.


Originally Posted by rbrylaw
Start an online negotiation with the internet sales manager. Don't even go to the dealership until you've got a deal you think is fair. There's a thread here with a lease calculation tool. Use it to get a better understanding of the money factor and all the aspects of a lease. Be as informed as you can be.

Here's a link to that thread: https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...tructions.html
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 06:36 AM
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 06:35 PM
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Just over $8k off MSRP
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Old Jan 5, 2016 | 10:21 AM
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MSRP right at 60k for lightly optioned C450. I got $6k off, without using any discounts/memberships.
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 09:09 PM
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1) Dealer has a $61,930 MSRP offered me $57,500
$715 x 36 w/ 10k miles & $2700 out of pocket (includes paying off my BMW)
or $730 w/ 12k miels
I havent gotten the numbers with MSDs yet

2) Another dealer has $62,775 MSRP (said they were taking a lot off MSRP and it didnt matter if I knew because their deal was so good)
$756 x 36 w/ 12k miles & $2800 out pocket
if I wanted to do MSDs 10x700 it will bring it down to $689

Any of these good deals? or I can do better?
Considering GLA 45 AMG too after test-driving one 355hp/332tq for 15 and now 2016 comes with new CarPlay + 375hp/350tq

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Old Jan 7, 2016 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by robnyc
1) Dealer has a $61,930 MSRP offered me $57,500
$715 x 36 w/ 10k miles & $2700 out of pocket (includes paying off my BMW)
or $730 w/ 12k miels
I havent gotten the numbers with MSDs yet

2) Another dealer has $62,775 MSRP (said they were taking a lot off MSRP and it didnt matter if I knew because their deal was so good)
$756 x 36 w/ 12k miles & $2800 out pocket
if I wanted to do MSDs 10x700 it will bring it down to $689

Any of these good deals? or I can do better?
No way to know. I don't know the January program, but I think the December MF was .002 and the 12K residual 58%. At first blush, the numbers don't make sense unless you had value in your car.
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by macct
No way to know. I don't know the January program, but I think the December MF was .002 and the 12K residual 58%. At first blush, the numbers don't make sense unless you had value in your car.
I didn't get that info but just by the monthly I knew it was more than what I wanted to spend.. Where do i find out the January MF and RV ?

When you say at first blush the numbers don't make sense unless i had value in my car?
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 10:04 PM
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Can anyone comment on the following lease? Greatly appreciate it!

2016 C300 Sport
MSRP: 56,985
Discount 1: -1985
Doc Prep Fee: 75
License/Title: 742
Acquisition Fee: 1095
Tax on Collected Items: 1770.06
Total Cap: 58682.06
Down/Cash Cap Reduction: 3310.23
Rebate Savings: -1250
Net Cap: 54,121.83

36 Month 12k mile Lease Payment: 689.77
$4000 cash due on delivery (3310.23 + 1st month payment = 4000)
Money Factor: .00204
Residual: 63%
Tax: 7.275%
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Vitty
Can anyone comment on the following lease? Greatly appreciate it!

2016 C300 Sport
MSRP: 56,985
Discount 1: -1985
Doc Prep Fee: 75
License/Title: 742
Acquisition Fee: 1095
Tax on Collected Items: 1770.06
Total Cap: 58682.06
Down/Cash Cap Reduction: 3310.23
Rebate Savings: -1250
Net Cap: 54,121.83

36 Month 12k mile Lease Payment: 689.77
$4000 cash due on delivery (3310.23 + 1st month payment = 4000)
Money Factor: .00204
Residual: 63%
Tax: 7.275%
You are getting raped in all holes at once. Low discount off MSRP, marked up MF, inflated acq fee.

Read through the thread, there are plenty of examples that should give you a good perspective of a decent deal.
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by stossie
You are getting raped in all holes at once. Low discount off MSRP, marked up MF, inflated acq fee.

Read through the thread, there are plenty of examples that should give you a good perspective of a decent deal.
Have to agree with you. Not a good deal at all.......
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 01:17 AM
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Just completed a purchase of a 2016 C450 (my first Merc) on Monday.

MSRP: $60690
After discount: $53000 + tax and license

Many dealers in the area were willing to offer $5K off without me setting foot at their showroom floor, just email inquires. With that, I started with $9K off and eventually settle with ~$7700 off. Dealer is in the SF Bay Area. Salesman was quite nice. We went to the dealership in our 1992 beat-up Camry and he came out and greet us immediately.

I think the deal is decent. Hope this helps anyone who is looking for a C450.
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 1stTimeBenz
Just completed a purchase of a 2016 C450 (my first Merc) on Monday.

MSRP: $60690
After discount: $53000 + tax and license

Many dealers in the area were willing to offer $5K off without me setting foot at their showroom floor, just email inquires. With that, I started with $9K off and eventually settle with ~$7700 off. Dealer is in the SF Bay Area. Salesman was quite nice. We went to the dealership in our 1992 beat-up Camry and he came out and greet us immediately.

I think the deal is decent. Hope this helps anyone who is looking for a C450.
what dealer is that? I'm in the SF bay area too. if you don't want to say, what area code it in? you bought one from the lots?
this dealer only willing to give me 3600$ off msrp. she said "my price are flexible, if you find a lower price elsewhere, I will match it". screw you ! if I found a lower price elsewhere, why should I go back to you and give you my business.
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 11:26 AM
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 1stTimeBenz
Just completed a purchase of a 2016 C450 (my first Merc) on Monday.

MSRP: $60690
After discount: $53000 + tax and license

Many dealers in the area were willing to offer $5K off without me setting foot at their showroom floor, just email inquires. With that, I started with $9K off and eventually settle with ~$7700 off. Dealer is in the SF Bay Area. Salesman was quite nice. We went to the dealership in our 1992 beat-up Camry and he came out and greet us immediately.

I think the deal is decent. Hope this helps anyone who is looking for a C450.
Congrats! Pics or it didn't happen!!
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 12:03 PM
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before I ordered my c450, I in no hurry to get it.
after i order it. now, I can't wait !
my car is not even built yet, supposed to build on Feb 8, 2016.
ordered on Dec 15, 2015. 3.5 weeks more to go. time goes by fast, right ? haha
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 1stTimeBenz
Just completed a purchase of a 2016 C450 (my first Merc) on Monday.

MSRP: $60690
After discount: $53000 + tax and license

Many dealers in the area were willing to offer $5K off without me setting foot at their showroom floor, just email inquires. With that, I started with $9K off and eventually settle with ~$7700 off. Dealer is in the SF Bay Area. Salesman was quite nice. We went to the dealership in our 1992 beat-up Camry and he came out and greet us immediately.

I think the deal is decent. Hope this helps anyone who is looking for a C450.

Nice. I got basically the same deal here in the Bay Area, 60620$ retail, purchase was 53,250$ + TTL..but that did include my MP 2000$ rebate/fleet discount. I had made the deal back in early November on an ordered car - could have probably tried to re-negotiate after delivery but that's not my style. I was very happy with the deal I got, something for both parties and yes, the differences between dealers even within the bay, sometimes within about 10 miles of each other varied WIDELY.. Some saying they would maybe give 1500$ off, then my 2K, others saying 500$ off then the 2K..so, you get what you negotiate.

I think the importer/manufacturer is happy getting $$$ at this exchange rate to Euros and will take slightly less $$ today than possibly less sales and slightly more $$ tomorrow but at a less favorable exchange rate.
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 12:46 PM
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here you go. sorry for the ****ty pics but will take some decent ones when the sky clears.





options:
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 03:08 PM
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Beautiful! Thanks for posting and I hope car is driven in happiness and health!!
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Old Jan 14, 2016 | 10:33 AM
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What should be the Doc/Registration fees? I know it depends from state to state but where I live (NJ), there is no cap. My current offer says $890 on those fees and I'm thinking:
-NJ Registration and title = $84
-License plate transfer =less than $20

In my mind this should probably be $300 right and there is still a healthy profit. Just seems like they pad this stuff everywhere. MBFS right now at 4%? Please I just got approved for 2%. Just ridiculous.
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Old Jan 14, 2016 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by npa201
What should be the Doc/Registration fees? I know it depends from state to state but where I live (NJ), there is no cap. My current offer says $890 on those fees and I'm thinking:
-NJ Registration and title = $84
-License plate transfer =less than $20

In my mind this should probably be $300 right and there is still a healthy profit. Just seems like they pad this stuff everywhere. MBFS right now at 4%? Please I just got approved for 2%. Just ridiculous.

pretty certain your vehicle registration is going to be much higher than 84$, that is about 1/6th the fee in CA..isn't there a reg fee based on the vehicle purchase price?

And I would doubt that a dealer would quote an official fee in your bill of sale as something padded and not the actual amount. Most of that stuff would have to be listed in the "additional options" or other fees area I would think.
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Old Jan 14, 2016 | 11:43 AM
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I scoured the NJ DMV site for all fees associated with a new car and couldn't come up with much. In terms of registration I got this:

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Vehicle/Fees.htm

And got to $84. Certainly there is paperwork and labor at the dealership but how long does that take to get processed. Are they making more per hour than what a lawyer would bill at?
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Old Jan 14, 2016 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by npa201
I scoured the NJ DMV site for all fees associated with a new car and couldn't come up with much. In terms of registration I got this:

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Vehicle/Fees.htm

And got to $84. Certainly there is paperwork and labor at the dealership but how long does that take to get processed. Are they making more per hour than what a lawyer would bill at?
Well, if they put it in the official fees section, question it and they should give you a detailed description of what it includes. Honestly, if they put fluff in the official state licensing, tax, or registration fees area - it's probably fraud and they probably aren't going to do that.
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Old Jan 14, 2016 | 01:17 PM
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well, mine in CA is about $500 which is inline with what the CA DMV fee estimate provided. not knowing your purchase price, $890 sounds a bit high to me.
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Old Jan 14, 2016 | 02:02 PM
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don't you also pay sales taxes on the car?
in CA, it's like 9.5%
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Old Jan 14, 2016 | 02:34 PM
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i wish there is no sales tax in cali. I was just referring to the DMV fee of about $500. sales tax is close to $5K.
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