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Also to help muddy the water, the online brochure (http://tools.mercedes-benz.co.uk/cur...oon-estate.pdf) on page 22 says 'Visible twin-pipe exhaust trim integrated into rear bumper'. That doesn't specify if it's a faux exhaust or a real one.
That phrasing had me confused too. In the general descption of the AMG style exterior package, (not model/engine specific) this same phrasing is also used.
To makes sense, also in respect to that accessories kit, would you agree, that "Visible exhausts" should indicate that you can look through the bumper and see the actual exhaust behind it? ( I.e dual active exhausts only)
I have yet to see a single sided "active" or "Visible exhaust"
That phrasing had me confused too. In the general descption of the AMG style exterior package, (not model/engine specific) this same phrasing is also used.
To makes sense, also in respect to that accessories kit, would you agree, that "Visible exhausts" should indicate that you can look through the bumper and see the actual exhaust behind it? ( I.e dual active exhausts only)
I have yet to see a single sided "active" or "Visible exhaust"
Very confusing indeed. It seems to be a 'catch all' ambiguous statement.
Like I said earlier, on the configurator on the UK website if you play about and select the C200 diesel AMG and then flick across to the equivalent petrol you can actually see that the petrol has the visible exhaust whereas the diesel doesn't.
However I don't think I would trust a buggy MB rendering tool to give me the right answer!
late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires
Originally Posted by Eilers
My mistake, here is what you wrote:
You were a F1 Tech Representative, that would be representing the Oil company you mention so often?
You mentioned that you ran Bike and Car Racing teams. So I hope you can understand, when I thought you said that you also managed a F1 Team.
It all sounds very exiting. If you dont mind me asking, what F1 team was it? The Race Teams you manged, were they also based out of South Africa? Being a Team manager, I have to assume that you also have a racing career behind you, or where you just a wealthy enthusiast/money man?
I don't have to answer to you on anything. You queried my track day invites from Benz & I posted an example of the invite. You are too crude to acknowledge graciously that you were wrong. I was oilco Tech support to Stewart Racing & later Jaguar F1. My later involvement was with a team still racing & I have a binding secrecy agreement in place so they won't be mentioned. I'm no longer involved but it should be fairly obvious. I directly managed the 22 rider strong XYZ Honda Dealer Team in SA for 10 years. After that I handled PR for the 250 GP Association for Michelin. I co managed the XYZ Audi Quattro track team in SA & managed an Opel racing squad for a while. I then moved international with said oil company & the F1 involvement followed. All this was done concurrently with my oilco job. Seems you have never bothered to read my profile either.
Originally Posted by Eilers
Yes you and I have a history of bad blood, which you brought to this thread. Anyone can read back and see how you initiated the personal attacks.
No ~ the complaints about your rude treatment of members preceded any clash between you & I. I personally found your comments about Sportstick unpalatable. He is a valued member of this board & used to be a staff member with us.
You have a happy knack of rubbing up members the wrong way.
I'm totally relaxed & could not give two hoots what you think. You are forever seeing spooks in the dark & making incorrect assumptions.
Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; Jan 14, 2015 at 07:08 AM.
It is obvious in your way of writing that you want to be the "big guy" that knows everything, regardless of it being correct or not, there are much more humble ways of sharing info on this board.
There are many new members in here as the W205 is a rising new model and not all have yet gathered the same background info on the members that the "veterans" already have and may very well take everything they read for true.
If you do not know Eilers, then why write at all?
or at least say that you are not sure next to your statements.
Last edited by vic viper; Jan 14, 2015 at 01:04 AM.
Sorry for hijacking the thread, but how come the Bluetec W222s with the AMG pack feature the the same standard vanity with the silver trim fake exhausts as offered on the W205? I've always wondered why they can't offer it with visible tailpipes like the gasoline models or the previous gen Bluetecs.
I have a binding secrecy agreement in place so they won't be mentioned.
I directly managed the 22 rider strong XYZ Honda Dealer Team in SA for 10 years. I co managed the XYZ Audi Quattro track team in SA & managed an Opel racing squad for a while.
Secret agreements. move over James Bond!
There is seemingly nothing to be found on the internet using those team names. No mention on XYZ website. No link to your name and racing or for XYZ and racing teams in south africa. I accidentally came across your LinkedIn profile with only one connection, thats it.
Is there a website to the bike team you ran for 10 years? What was the most significant competition result for the team? Surely there must be some info out here or is it all secret?
It is obvious in your way of writing that you want to be the "big guy" that knows everything, regardless of it being correct or not, there are much more humble ways of sharing info on this board.
There are many new members in here as the W205 is a rising new model and not all have yet gathered the same background info on the members that the "veterans" already have and may very well take everything they read for true.
If you do not know Eilers, then why write at all?
or at least say that you are not sure next to your statements.
That is nothing more then another personal attack. I am not going to go down that road.
Why don't you stick to the subject matter, and reply to my question from earlier. You are the one who is very keen to being 100% correct, Or does this only apply to anyone but you?
late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires
Eilers ~ I'm not answering any more of your BS. XYZ = Sponsor's name. If you can't find Jaguar F1 & Stewart GP run by Jackie & his son you are blind. The present F1 team I refer to requires me to get written permission to use the teams name in any public forum from the team principle. If you think I'm going to do that to satisfy your curiosity then think again.
Google the erstwhile Max Gehring at Benz & see what you find ~ nothing! That is left to the high profile front men.
Vic,
Eilers is a little man trying to be noticed. This is obvious from his internet persona. You know like a yappy little terrier dog that you feel like kicking from time to time.
EDIT: Oh & we won a number of SA championships in the late 70's & the 80's.
Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; Jan 16, 2015 at 08:50 AM.
Sorry for hijacking the thread, but how come the Bluetec W222s with the AMG pack feature the the same standard vanity with the silver trim fake exhausts as offered on the W205? I've always wondered why they can't offer it with visible tailpipes like the gasoline models or the previous gen Bluetecs.
No need to apologise. We're all here to ask questions.
As Vic mentioned, please see his post #13 in this thread.
No need to apologise. We're all here to ask questions.
As Vic mentioned, please see his post #13 in this thread.
If the exhaust in the diesels get so high, how come they offered visible exhaust tips on previous gen Bluetecs? Would the current gen tips or bumpers be made of a different material?
If the exhaust in the diesels get so high, how come they offered visible exhaust tips on previous gen Bluetecs? Would the current gen tips or bumpers be made of a different material?
the previous diesels didnt have the tips mounted in the bumper, also it is the new Ad-Blue bluetec engines that develop the excess heat.
the previous diesels didnt have the tips mounted in the bumper, also it is the new Ad-Blue bluetec engines that develop the excess heat.
But the previous Bluetec models also burn off the particulates every once in a while. The new GL with the AMG pack also features tips similar to the previous gen S-Class but the diesel GL also doesn't exposed tips with the AMG pack. Did they do this to keep it inline with the other diesel models?
All modern diesel Engines have particulate filters with regenerative system, but it is the all new NOX reducing Ad Blue additive Engines that seem to use the exhaust tip covers.
late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires
Now that the exhaust system is captive in the bodywork, heat could be the issue. The regen units run very hot at times. It could also just be a marketing decision. For a diesel who cares. It's not as though they make nice exhaust noises or whatever. The Blind AMG/Sport panel looks good.
I'm not knocking diesels. They are great! Our local Car magazine rates the diesel above the C200 in many respects.
So, here's a bit more confirmation in case you weren't convinced by what was already written. My car arrived last night - a C250 AMG Line Bluetec (Is this known as the Sport Pack in the USA?).
The exhaust isn't connected to the exhaust ports in the AMG rear bumper and points down. It's only on the left hand side of the car, but the AMG exhaust ports are on both sides of the bumper, and they are blanked off.
Hope that helps. They look real enough though from anything but right close up and look pretty sweet to me. It doesn't really matter that they aren't connected as far as I'm concerned. After all, I did order a diesel!
C250 AMG Line Estate Bluetec - showing fake exhaust ports
I'm going to try and drop in to MB dealer that had the C200 petrol with the AMG line next weekend to help resolve the original question about the C200 UK AMG line.
Popped into my local dealership, today, and looked at a C200 AMG Line estate (wagon).
The exhaust are as people describe as "active" and exit through the bumper vanity panel, although not connected to said panel. They are twin exhausts (either side).
They match up with the photos in #17 and #20 posts.
late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires
Originally Posted by jolt8631
Enigma
Popped into my local dealership, today, and looked at a C200 AMG Line estate (wagon).
The exhaust are as people describe as "active" and exit through the bumper vanity panel, although not connected to said panel. They are twin exhausts (either side).
They match up with the photos in #17 and #20 posts.
Hope that helps.
Excellent & thanks. The wagon would have been German built but we have now clarified the UK spec for a C200 AMG line. SA only builds W205 RHD & LHD sedans to reduce plant complexity.
I believe that this will put a smile on Mr Enigma's face.
Glyn, it has indeed! Although I am now toying with the idea of getting the C450 when it is released in the UK to fill the gap of 500 horses when the R8 departs! I need to see prices, spec and availability to make an informed decision. Hopefully the spec and price list is released soon...
late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires
Originally Posted by Mr Enigma
Thank you jolt! Much appreciated.
Glyn, it has indeed! Although I am now toying with the idea of getting the C450 when it is released in the UK to fill the gap of 500 horses when the R8 departs! I need to see prices, spec and availability to make an informed decision. Hopefully the spec and price list is released soon...
I really enjoy R8's but not as a daily driver. I'm also waiting with interest on the C450. My CLK has only done 20K miles but it's certainly a car that interests me. In Coupe form even more so. I want enhanced looks & power but relative ease of daily use & comfort. I don't want true AMG, ****, wind & noise.
Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; Jan 16, 2015 at 09:21 AM.
I really enjoy R8's but not as a daily driver. I'm also waiting with interest on the C450. My CLK has only done 20K miles but it's certainly a car that interests me. In Coupe form even more so. I want enhanced looks & power but relative ease of daily use & comfort. I don't want true AMG, ****, wind & noise.
I daily drove the R8 for over 2 years. Albeit I take the tube to work so it was more an evening and weekend car. I got married last year so I drive my wifes Polo more than my car!
I want something that has adequate performance and a high level of comfort. I brought a W204 new about 6 years ago (when I joined here originally) and the W205 hits the sweet spot - as I'll be keeping the car for a lengthy period I want it to be able to stand the test of time. I'm hoping that the C450 isn't too expensive so I can put some of the change from the R8 sale on less depreciating items!
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