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#551
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Im just being annoying to the fan boys
But the price differential is true my fully loaded c400, every thing except fart disguiser was 62k. If you add the tune its still a 3k difference plus you wouldnt expect the manufacturer to add any price for simply giving you a different engine and transmission "mapping". A fully equipped C450 without the fancy seats is 67. They jacked up the price, a lot. Whether the magnetic shocks are worth a 5k premium over the airbags is highly suspect. Ive had magnetorheologic dampers before (on an Acura) they were indeed better than the "standard" at the time, however, I did buy the next model of the same vehicle which didnt offer ferrofluid shocks and the new car handles just as well as the one with the variable shocks. The airbags on the C class work quite well though you cant ratchet them to butt pounding levels. Id love to see an actual test head to head to see mags vs bags offer any quantifiable advantages.
But the price differential is true my fully loaded c400, every thing except fart disguiser was 62k. If you add the tune its still a 3k difference plus you wouldnt expect the manufacturer to add any price for simply giving you a different engine and transmission "mapping". A fully equipped C450 without the fancy seats is 67. They jacked up the price, a lot. Whether the magnetic shocks are worth a 5k premium over the airbags is highly suspect. Ive had magnetorheologic dampers before (on an Acura) they were indeed better than the "standard" at the time, however, I did buy the next model of the same vehicle which didnt offer ferrofluid shocks and the new car handles just as well as the one with the variable shocks. The airbags on the C class work quite well though you cant ratchet them to butt pounding levels. Id love to see an actual test head to head to see mags vs bags offer any quantifiable advantages.
#553
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It looks like us early adopters get screwed paying $140 more for the combo Parktronic + RV Camera. That is a killer that the 360 camera is not available.
No night package plus on the configurator. I am wondering if they dropped this option. Tmoney and I both might be headed to the body shop to have are diffusers painted black.
The only semi-bright spot is the cost is almost spot on to the order sheet.
$63,795 M-B Configurator
$64,095 Order Sheet
300 Less Night Package Plus
$63,795 Net Order Sheet
No night package plus on the configurator. I am wondering if they dropped this option. Tmoney and I both might be headed to the body shop to have are diffusers painted black.
The only semi-bright spot is the cost is almost spot on to the order sheet.
$63,795 M-B Configurator
$64,095 Order Sheet
300 Less Night Package Plus
$63,795 Net Order Sheet
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Almost there...
Even more frustrating - my car has been at the dealer in Switzerland for over a week, but the paperwork won't be ready until next Thursday. The Swiss do love their paperwork! Anyway, just in time for my road trip to Italy!
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But the price differential is true my fully loaded c400, every thing except fart disguiser was 62k. If you add the tune its still a 3k difference plus you wouldnt expect the manufacturer to add any price for simply giving you a different engine and transmission "mapping". A fully equipped C450 without the fancy seats is 67. They jacked up the price, a lot. Whether the magnetic shocks are worth a 5k premium over the airbags is highly suspect.
I didn't get DAP, Air Balance, or side shades. Adding these to "max out" the C400 brings the MSRP to $66,445. Those remaining options cost the same on the C450. The additional availability of the AMG seats, steering wheel, contrasting seat belts, and a host of designo choices is why a C450 can push $70K.
I agree it's hard to quantify the uprated engine mapping, reprogrammed 7GTRONIC Plus/4MATIC, Airmatic vs. AMG adaptive dampers, and the C450's upgraded bodywork, HUD and IP. But the $1320 difference easily covers the C63 front suspension, steering and brakes and AMG sport exhaust system that the C450 has over the C400.
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The price difference is not $5K. My well-loaded C450 config is $64,785 (posted previously). An identically-optioned 2015 C400 with Airmatic is $63,465. That's a price difference of $1,320. The only option difference is I don't have vented seats but I do have the Night Package Plus.
I didn't get DAP, Air Balance, or side shades. Adding these to "max out" the C400 brings the MSRP to $66,445. Those remaining options cost the same on the C450. The additional availability of the AMG seats, steering wheel, contrasting seat belts, and a host of designo choices is why a C450 can push $70K.
I agree it's hard to quantify the uprated engine mapping, reprogrammed 7GTRONIC Plus/4MATIC, Airmatic vs. AMG adaptive dampers, and the C450's upgraded bodywork, HUD and IP. But the $1320 difference easily covers the C63 front suspension, steering and brakes and AMG sport exhaust system that the C450 has over the C400.
I didn't get DAP, Air Balance, or side shades. Adding these to "max out" the C400 brings the MSRP to $66,445. Those remaining options cost the same on the C450. The additional availability of the AMG seats, steering wheel, contrasting seat belts, and a host of designo choices is why a C450 can push $70K.
I agree it's hard to quantify the uprated engine mapping, reprogrammed 7GTRONIC Plus/4MATIC, Airmatic vs. AMG adaptive dampers, and the C450's upgraded bodywork, HUD and IP. But the $1320 difference easily covers the C63 front suspension, steering and brakes and AMG sport exhaust system that the C450 has over the C400.
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Mine is not expected to arrive until next week. I hope that I can complete the paperwork faster in the US.
#559
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That's it. Same car. It says "Available per request at: Mercedes-Benz of Fairfield" while the 50+ 2016 C300s say "Available Now". Not sure what that all means except that I shouldn't expect to see or drive a C450 if I show up at the dealer. I can wait.
#560
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It's bizarre that they did that, it seems like a test 450 that they put into the system.
#561
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Either a test or a marketing ploy so people interested in the car, now that it is being released (and may be seeing some additional press), don't see that the dealer has none. This way the dealer gets a visit or a phone call at least. Maybe I'm just getting to cynical as I age....
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#562
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The price difference is not $5K. My well-loaded C450 config is $64,785 (posted previously). An identically-optioned 2015 C400 with Airmatic is $63,465. That's a price difference of $1,320. The only option difference is I don't have vented seats but I do have the Night Package Plus.
I didn't get DAP, Air Balance, or side shades. Adding these to "max out" the C400 brings the MSRP to $66,445. Those remaining options cost the same on the C450. The additional availability of the AMG seats, steering wheel, contrasting seat belts, and a host of designo choices is why a C450 can push $70K.
I agree it's hard to quantify the uprated engine mapping, reprogrammed 7GTRONIC Plus/4MATIC, Airmatic vs. AMG adaptive dampers, and the C450's upgraded bodywork, HUD and IP. But the $1320 difference easily covers the C63 front suspension, steering and brakes and AMG sport exhaust system that the C450 has over the C400.
I didn't get DAP, Air Balance, or side shades. Adding these to "max out" the C400 brings the MSRP to $66,445. Those remaining options cost the same on the C450. The additional availability of the AMG seats, steering wheel, contrasting seat belts, and a host of designo choices is why a C450 can push $70K.
I agree it's hard to quantify the uprated engine mapping, reprogrammed 7GTRONIC Plus/4MATIC, Airmatic vs. AMG adaptive dampers, and the C450's upgraded bodywork, HUD and IP. But the $1320 difference easily covers the C63 front suspension, steering and brakes and AMG sport exhaust system that the C450 has over the C400.
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No movement on this thread for the last 4 hours, with all these cars about to arrive. Everyone must be in shock at the last post from "he who must be ignored"
#564
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In the end, we all know the C450 doesn't carry much of a premium over the C400. the $2k difference is nothing compared to the improved exterior, engine mapping, brakes, and suspension of the 450. I was really close into getting the 400 as well, until I read into the offerings of the 450 and decided it was well worth the wait.
I should be expecting my white on cranberry red c450 anyday now...hopefully tomorrow bright n early so i can take it out for a joyride..break it in a little =p
I should be expecting my white on cranberry red c450 anyday now...hopefully tomorrow bright n early so i can take it out for a joyride..break it in a little =p
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In the end, we all know the C450 doesn't carry much of a premium over the C400. the $2k difference is nothing compared to the improved exterior, engine mapping, brakes, and suspension of the 450. I was really close into getting the 400 as well, until I read into the offerings of the 450 and decided it was well worth the wait.
I should be expecting my white on cranberry red c450 anyday now...hopefully tomorrow bright n early so i can take it out for a joyride..break it in a little =p
I should be expecting my white on cranberry red c450 anyday now...hopefully tomorrow bright n early so i can take it out for a joyride..break it in a little =p
#567
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I think the configurator is still messed up...
1. It says that the Burmester System is standard in one place and then an extra cost in The P2 package
2. I thought the LED headlight were supposed to be standard
1. It says that the Burmester System is standard in one place and then an extra cost in The P2 package
2. I thought the LED headlight were supposed to be standard
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Yep, not just on the C450, but it's messed up for all C Class builds. Hard to believe MBUSA could be that messed up on their website.
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It was like Ross Perot spoke about regarding healthcare "if you cannot create a better plan than copy one that works that is better and less expensive". Sorry to those youngsters that need to look-up on wikipedia who Ross Perot is/was.
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Well, I'm definitely not one of those kids. I certainly know who Ross Perot is (he is still alive at 85 years old).
I too used the builder for my C300, which I printed out and took with me when the car was officially ordered last month.
Given how messed up the MBUSA builder is now, I can see someone just getting frustrated and giving up.
I actually wrote MBUSA this afternoon to let them know the build your car feature was a mess and needs to be fixed.
I too used the builder for my C300, which I printed out and took with me when the car was officially ordered last month.
Given how messed up the MBUSA builder is now, I can see someone just getting frustrated and giving up.
I actually wrote MBUSA this afternoon to let them know the build your car feature was a mess and needs to be fixed.
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I hope MB responds to your message positively. I left a message yesterday with my salesperson asking what the impact would be on how I configured my order due to start 9/28 for a late Oct. delivery. I ordered the leather interior but without the surround sound option. I'm thoroughly confused as it shows it standard at one point, and part of a package later. He has yet to get back to me. I'm sure he's as puzzled as we are.
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I hope MB responds to your message positively. I left a message yesterday with my salesperson asking what the impact would be on how I configured my order due to start 9/28 for a late Oct. delivery. I ordered the leather interior but without the surround sound option. I'm thoroughly confused as it shows it standard at one point, and part of a package later. He has yet to get back to me. I'm sure he's as puzzled as we are.
I would expect MB to respond politely to my email. They certainly need to know the build part of MBUSA is completely messed up.
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Hello friends,
I am new to this forum and to the Mercedes community. I just placed an order for the C450. The dealer said the car is expected to be delivered 3rd week of October. I'm curious about your optional packages and the negotiated discounts. Below are my selections:
C450W4 $50,800
149 Polar White
240 Black Leather
P02 P02 Premium Package: Burmester® Surround $1,520
P21 Air Balance Package $350
068 Wheel Locking bolts $140
098 ** PRICE NOT ON FILE **
293 Rear Side Airbags
317 317 Interior Package: Leather Upholstery $2,150
319 319 Lighting Package: Dynamic LED Headli $800
320 320 Multimedia Package: High-Resolution $2,690
389 389 HANDS-FREE ACCESS Package: HANDS-FRE $250
413 Panorama Sunroof $1,480
463 Head-Up Display $990
5P8 Control code - scheduling & production i
513 TSA
521 521 Night Package: High gloss black fron $200
6P5 Factory Code
661 18" AMG® 5-Spoke Wheel - Black
736 Black Ash Open Pore Wood Trim
851 Factory Code
997 997 Driver Assistance Package: DISTRONIC $2,250
SUBTOTAL $63,620
DESTINATION & DELIVERY $925
TOTAL $64,545
-$6,250 discount
I am new to this forum and to the Mercedes community. I just placed an order for the C450. The dealer said the car is expected to be delivered 3rd week of October. I'm curious about your optional packages and the negotiated discounts. Below are my selections:
C450W4 $50,800
149 Polar White
240 Black Leather
P02 P02 Premium Package: Burmester® Surround $1,520
P21 Air Balance Package $350
068 Wheel Locking bolts $140
098 ** PRICE NOT ON FILE **
293 Rear Side Airbags
317 317 Interior Package: Leather Upholstery $2,150
319 319 Lighting Package: Dynamic LED Headli $800
320 320 Multimedia Package: High-Resolution $2,690
389 389 HANDS-FREE ACCESS Package: HANDS-FRE $250
413 Panorama Sunroof $1,480
463 Head-Up Display $990
5P8 Control code - scheduling & production i
513 TSA
521 521 Night Package: High gloss black fron $200
6P5 Factory Code
661 18" AMG® 5-Spoke Wheel - Black
736 Black Ash Open Pore Wood Trim
851 Factory Code
997 997 Driver Assistance Package: DISTRONIC $2,250
SUBTOTAL $63,620
DESTINATION & DELIVERY $925
TOTAL $64,545
-$6,250 discount
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Makes me wonder what will actually come on my car. It's not a C450, but the lady who places orders seemed pretty confident the options we chose (pretty much everything except 4Matic [not needed in hot Florida], heads up display and lighted MB Star on the front), were accepted by the order system.
I would expect MB to respond politely to my email. They certainly need to know the build part of MBUSA is completely messed up.
I would expect MB to respond politely to my email. They certainly need to know the build part of MBUSA is completely messed up.
#575
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Hello friends,
I am new to this forum and to the Mercedes community. I just placed an order for the C450. The dealer said the car is expected to be delivered 3rd week of October. I'm curious about your optional packages and the negotiated discounts. Below are my selections:
C450W4 $50,800
149 Polar White
240 Black Leather
P02 P02 Premium Package: Burmester® Surround $1,520
P21 Air Balance Package $350
068 Wheel Locking bolts $140
098 ** PRICE NOT ON FILE **
293 Rear Side Airbags
317 317 Interior Package: Leather Upholstery $2,150
319 319 Lighting Package: Dynamic LED Headli $800
320 320 Multimedia Package: High-Resolution $2,690
389 389 HANDS-FREE ACCESS Package: HANDS-FRE $250
413 Panorama Sunroof $1,480
463 Head-Up Display $990
5P8 Control code - scheduling & production i
513 TSA
521 521 Night Package: High gloss black fron $200
6P5 Factory Code
661 18" AMG® 5-Spoke Wheel - Black
736 Black Ash Open Pore Wood Trim
851 Factory Code
997 997 Driver Assistance Package: DISTRONIC $2,250
SUBTOTAL $63,620
DESTINATION & DELIVERY $925
TOTAL $64,545
-$6,250 discount
I am new to this forum and to the Mercedes community. I just placed an order for the C450. The dealer said the car is expected to be delivered 3rd week of October. I'm curious about your optional packages and the negotiated discounts. Below are my selections:
C450W4 $50,800
149 Polar White
240 Black Leather
P02 P02 Premium Package: Burmester® Surround $1,520
P21 Air Balance Package $350
068 Wheel Locking bolts $140
098 ** PRICE NOT ON FILE **
293 Rear Side Airbags
317 317 Interior Package: Leather Upholstery $2,150
319 319 Lighting Package: Dynamic LED Headli $800
320 320 Multimedia Package: High-Resolution $2,690
389 389 HANDS-FREE ACCESS Package: HANDS-FRE $250
413 Panorama Sunroof $1,480
463 Head-Up Display $990
5P8 Control code - scheduling & production i
513 TSA
521 521 Night Package: High gloss black fron $200
6P5 Factory Code
661 18" AMG® 5-Spoke Wheel - Black
736 Black Ash Open Pore Wood Trim
851 Factory Code
997 997 Driver Assistance Package: DISTRONIC $2,250
SUBTOTAL $63,620
DESTINATION & DELIVERY $925
TOTAL $64,545
-$6,250 discount
The discount that you received brings the price below what I believe the invoice price to be. This is phenomenal at this point in the model year. Would you share the dealer name with me?