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Ford update brings Android Auto and Apple CarPlay to its 2016 fleet

http://www.theverge.com/2017/5/19/15...-2016-vehicles

Mike5215

Yes. Unfortunately Ford installed it in a Ford.

removedCFGaccount

Yeah, kinda like gilding a turd. Underneath, it's still a steaming pile.

Thlian

So has VAG and all its siblings

removedCFGaccount

Surely that's not what it looks like!

NYbenzzz

but benz doesn't give 2 craps about it.

they got plenty of sheep who would still buy benzes even with a pile of ***** that is command.

auditoamg

Now that's funny right there.... 😂😂😂

unr1

Benz doesn't care because they know people will still buy or lease their cars. The truth hurts sometimes.

unr1

There's no reason to clown on ford. People buy what they can afford and what they enjoy to drive. Have some class.

DapperStyle

Not sure what's keeping MB in the Stone Age regarding Over The Air updates. They would rather people need to book their cars for 3 hours of labor for Map updates or COMAND updates. Sad

sean1.8t

I don't understand the collective circle jerk over this stuff. To be fair, I've never used it so maybe I'm not qualified to comment on it, but why is this such a big deal?

Now that it's so nice out, I've been cruising with the windows down and just listening to my exhaust. Tis music to my ears

Mike5215

I had a 2017 Lincoln MKZ as a rental while my C was in the shop. It's MSRP was more than the C, it had CarPlay (and a good stereo) but was otherwise a rolling turd. Unbelievably bad in every way imaginable. It's stunning to me that anyone buys those things.

sean1.8t

The crazy part is that Ford (and sister companies) are making much, MUCH better cars than they were 5 years ago.

Sam Manuel

I have the redigned Malibu , it's beautiful in so many ways ( hardly drive the c anymore) it's got android auto which I find so much better than car play

engine has no power So much that people quickly pass me over in the city lol

the winning factor is how well it absorbs the potholes in the city , i drive it without freaking out every single second.

NYbenzzz

this is true for all big 3 american car makers.

i was very impressed with the CTS rental i had last year. fit and finish was a little lacking, but overall i was pleased.......just not $60k pleased.

also had a chance to drive a grand cherokee SRT-8. holy smokes! you guys gotta punch the gas all the way on this thing. Absolutelly SAVAGE car. Intoxicating exhaust note!

Mike5215

True. Overall Ford and GM (forget Chrysler) are building better cars, but their bread and butter is and apparently always will be trucks. It's the only segment where they're really competitive against the Asian brands.

Stand alone, the Malibu is a fine choice. But the Mazda 6 is too, looks sexy, handles a bit better and feels like it's better built. I can't make a rational argument for paying $60k for a C Class, or $100k for an S Class for that matter, but there is something intangible about owing and driving a Benz that will never show up on a spreadsheet.

Leslielp

It does look like MB USA does support it on all models except the C Class ?????

http://https://www.mbusa.com/mercede...00ccec1e35RCRD

sean1.8t

Mazda started killing it something like 3-4 years ago. Making fantastic cars; amazing cars when you consider the prices. If I didn't want a turbo V6 and that "intangible" German car experience, I would probably have picked up something in their lineup.

I think the only possible way I would get an American made vehicle is if I needed a diesel truck. Even a gas truck, I would choose Toyota over American. They have stepped it up a few notches the past few years like I said, but they were so far behind before the fact that they're still utter crap.

Mike5215

I wanted something safe for my daughter so I started with the NIHS ratings and worked backwards. There were several choices in the compact range but I ended up at a Mazda3 with the safety suite (autonomous braking, lane departure warning, speed limit sign recognition with over speed warning, adaptive cruise, etc.) The way Mazda puts its packages together I had to buy all of them.

So the interior is very nice. Not C Class nice in terms of design, but attractive and good materials. The perforated leather in the Mazda is nicer. The audio is better. The HUD has actual sign recognition in full color. It's $30k all in.

Other than that, it drives like a compact FWD car.

Thlian

I drove a top spec Mazda 6 a few weeks ago and although it's a good ride it still feels a few steps behind MB. The are broader use of hard plastic in the cabin, which I dislike so much. They japanese have issues when trying to renew their buttons, they all look the same as they did in the 80's. The hud are a glass or plastic pop-up and don't look nice at all, C class do show speed limit on the HUD in full color. And the Bose in the Mazda stinks, my wifes audio in a 10 year old A4 sounds better, Audi concert, it's not even Bose. Mazda is a good looking car and the ride is OK, but it lacks a feeling when I get into it. Every car I buy are based on feelings, I want to dress it, its not a freakin fish bowl.

Mike5215

The premium audio in the Mazda3 (by Bose) is better sounding out of the box than the Burmester in the C. They put actual 6" woofers in the 3. None of this "Frontbass" nonsense.

Had the Burmester been anywhere near as good I wouldn't have spent $4k tearing it out and upgrading it. Mercedes had always been stingy with audio. The HK system in the 221 S Class was absolutely horrible as well.

Thlian

I already know I will miss the HK I had in my 3 series which had woofers under the seats

Mike5215

The 221 had the exact same shallow mount dual coil subs in the front doors but the factory EQ totally neutered them. Once they were off the factory EQ they sounded great.

NYbenzzz

well, you are comparing a mazda to a benz.......obviously the interior is gonna be night and day.

but for arguments sakes, lets compare cars in the same price range.

take a fully loaded mazda 3 vs a bone stock cla 250. Both should be around same ballpark in terms of price.

has any of you driven a bone stock cla250?

i did, and it's a piece of junk. that is the onyl way to describe the cla. absolute piece of manure.
interior feels cheap, center console is a joke, it just does not feel like a benz in any way shape or form.

now c class is a different story. it's a $45k base car

Mr. J

I'm not sure why so many people are nut-hugging the android auto and carplay.
Rented an expedition a few weeks ago, tried the android auto, it was glitchy. I'm not impressed.

As far as command goes. It has very good voice recognition for a vehicle based system.