W205 wrist pin problem
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W205 wrist pin problem
Did Mercedes ever do anything to help owners of the early 2015 C300 with defective piston wrist pins? Is the owner completely responsible for the repair after warranty runs out on the car?
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Most likely the owner is responsible. I haven’t read anyone claiming MB picked up the tab after warranty ended. I think it’s a $8k job or somewhere around there. Also heard it’s only a noise issue and that it won’t harm the car in the long run. Not sure how true that is.
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It is a serious problem that will get worse in time and cause early engine failure but if you own the car for two or three years of normal mileage you will probably have no problem. I have one here that has a noise that I suspect is the wrist pin and would like to know if and how Mercedes addressed the problem.
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It is a serious problem that will get worse in time and cause early engine failure but if you own the car for two or three years of normal mileage you will probably have no problem. I have one here that has a noise that I suspect is the wrist pin and would like to know if and how Mercedes addressed the problem.
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I learned in another forum that the cars involved in this problem were those manufactured before April 2015 so they are all out of warranty as of april 2019. Mine was manufactured in December 2014.
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So I bought my 2015 c300 luxury on November 2017 with 37k on the clock. After driving it 1k miles the turbo fails. I take it to the mb dealership for warranty work and they fix it I ask about the noise coming from the engine that sounds like a tractor they tell me it’s normal and that it’s just the injectors ok then it the “injectors” fast forward to last week I’m driving the car to work and it looses all power starts smoking and I hear a rattle in the exhaust metal hitting metal.i have the car towed to the same dealership @58k. out of warranty now and I’m told I have catastrophic piston failure on piston 1 Now I started doing research and my vehicle fall under the dreaded wrist pin failure and now it needs a new engine I’m told that it would cost 6k to remove the engine and diagnose the failure. POS I owned my 2008 c350 for 9 years and it was the best car that I owned.How do I reach out to mbUSA? Any Advice would be greatly appreciated.
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So I bought my 2015 c300 luxury on November 2017 with 37k on the clock. After driving it 1k miles the turbo fails. I take it to the mb dealership for warranty work and they fix it I ask about the noise coming from the engine that sounds like a tractor they tell me it’s normal and that it’s just the injectors ok then it the “injectors” fast forward to last week I’m driving the car to work and it looses all power starts smoking and I hear a rattle in the exhaust metal hitting metal.i have the car towed to the same dealership @58k. out of warranty now and I’m told I have catastrophic piston failure on piston 1 Now I started doing research and my vehicle fall under the dreaded wrist pin failure and now it needs a new engine I’m told that it would cost 6k to remove the engine and diagnose the failure. POS I owned my 2008 c350 for 9 years and it was the best car that I owned.How do I reach out to mbUSA? Any Advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Why isn't this a sticky note? It seems to me that a little heads up would be a public service.
My father-in-law bought one of these from a used car lot and got stuck good. He's 90 years old and was an easy mark. The car was off lease, passed through auction and he got it at a used car dealer. When I got my hands on the car it looked like the oil had never been changed and there was tree leaves in the air filter box. Unfortunately the car had sat in his garage for months before I got it and has no warranty or guarantee with it.
He is also a long time member here and a heads up here may have saved him and may save some other people some pain. These cars are coming off lease now and a lot of people are going to get stuck with one like I did.
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My father-in-law bought one of these from a used car lot and got stuck good. He's 90 years old and was an easy mark. The car was off lease, passed through auction and he got it at a used car dealer. When I got my hands on the car it looked like the oil had never been changed and there was tree leaves in the air filter box. Unfortunately the car had sat in his garage for months before I got it and has no warranty or guarantee with it.
He is also a long time member here and a heads up here may have saved him and may save some other people some pain. These cars are coming off lease now and a lot of people are going to get stuck with one like I did.
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Never seen one fail from this issue. Have had several cases of pre-ignition destroying pistons on cars that were run on poor quality fuel, it usually only affects hot climate cars.
There is no evidence that the piston noise will ever be anything more than just a noise, and there is absolutely no way the car will have extended warranty coverage for something like this that isn't a safety issue.
There is no evidence that the piston noise will ever be anything more than just a noise, and there is absolutely no way the car will have extended warranty coverage for something like this that isn't a safety issue.
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Never seen one fail from this issue. Have had several cases of pre-ignition destroying pistons on cars that were run on poor quality fuel, it usually only affects hot climate cars.
There is no evidence that the piston noise will ever be anything more than just a noise, and there is absolutely no way the car will have extended warranty coverage for something like this that isn't a safety issue.
There is no evidence that the piston noise will ever be anything more than just a noise, and there is absolutely no way the car will have extended warranty coverage for something like this that isn't a safety issue.
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I think this thread might get around to clearer understanding ....
1. Actual Wrist Pin "Issue" - was isolated to "possible" for specific year and specific VIN sequence.
2. Was questioned by "many" W205 owners due to the "metallic" nature of the sound of the W205 high pressure fuel injection system - when listening from outside the car, especially with hood up !
3. I have not seen - and ItalianJoe has reported he has not seen - any case of engine failure due to the wrist pin issue. The original # of "wrist pin possible" W205's is small as compared to total W205's sold - and the # of "confirmed wrist pins" has been very/very small.
On regular dealer maintenance with customers - I have seen two "wrist pin possibles" that were confirmed during service - both were corrected under warranty at that time.
Again - I have not seen a engine failure attributed to "confirmed wrist pin issue".
4. That said - since this C300 was dealer serviced - and if the VIN# was in "the possibles" and this wasn't checked and confirmed when serviced under warranty - heck ya - I would hound MBUSA and hound the Dealer to make this right 100% - go boy go !
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1. Actual Wrist Pin "Issue" - was isolated to "possible" for specific year and specific VIN sequence.
2. Was questioned by "many" W205 owners due to the "metallic" nature of the sound of the W205 high pressure fuel injection system - when listening from outside the car, especially with hood up !
3. I have not seen - and ItalianJoe has reported he has not seen - any case of engine failure due to the wrist pin issue. The original # of "wrist pin possible" W205's is small as compared to total W205's sold - and the # of "confirmed wrist pins" has been very/very small.
On regular dealer maintenance with customers - I have seen two "wrist pin possibles" that were confirmed during service - both were corrected under warranty at that time.
Again - I have not seen a engine failure attributed to "confirmed wrist pin issue".
4. That said - since this C300 was dealer serviced - and if the VIN# was in "the possibles" and this wasn't checked and confirmed when serviced under warranty - heck ya - I would hound MBUSA and hound the Dealer to make this right 100% - go boy go !
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I had the wrist pin repair performed at 15,000 miles, and had the engine replaced at 45,000 miles after #1 piston failure. The engine started burning a little oil at 35,000 miles. I brought up the oil consumption and was told it was in the normal range. My gas is about 80% Costco sourced, the other 20% Sams Club or regular gas station. I bring it up as Costco is meant to be Top Tier gas with additives
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I had the wrist pin repair performed at 15,000 miles, and had the engine replaced at 45,000 miles after #1 piston failure. The engine started burning a little oil at 35,000 miles. I brought up the oil consumption and was told it was in the normal range. My gas is about 80% Costco sourced, the other 20% Sams Club or regular gas station. I bring it up as Costco is meant to be Top Tier gas with additives
The context of my questions is that my 2015 C300 has 20,500 miles on it, out of warranty, and I'm pretty sure I have the wrist pin noise. I am debating getting a 3rd party extended warranty for peace of mind given the problems this engine can have.
Thanks for any additional information you can provide.
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Will extended warranty cover this repair? Just drove my SO”s car and hear the noise clearly
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Without statistics, like percentage of engines that had wrist pin and/or piston failures, the affected engine nos., miles at failure, and engine source, the discussion is circular. As long as the data is held by M-B and not likely to be released, owners have no way of knowing whether the problems are statistically significant or anecdotes.
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Hi Everyone, I am thinking of buying a c class W205 C220 Bluetec (12/2014) with 75k miles.
I have the VIN and engine number, how can I check online if the car was on the list of affected cars with the wrist pins issue?
VIN: WDD2050042R031271
ENGINE: 651921 32 455428
Thank you!
I have the VIN and engine number, how can I check online if the car was on the list of affected cars with the wrist pins issue?
VIN: WDD2050042R031271
ENGINE: 651921 32 455428
Thank you!
