Suggestions\recommendations: Lowering a wagon s205
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Suggestions\recommendations: Lowering a wagon s205
So I've been thinking about lowering my wagon im pretty sure im done with cosmetic stuff ...... maybe lol
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...on-so-far.html
I haven't 100% decided on method im going with springs , adjustable springs or coilovers but leaning towards coilovers, probably BC Racing.
Now the real question is what's up with the different part# for the rear springs that occasionally comes for the wagon? is this really a big deal or do the sedan kits work just fine ? no one seems to have a solid answer, I've messaged a few places and got back different answers, H&R doesn't even have a listing for the part#
if you have lowered your wagon using any of these methods id love to hear your input on before and after install driving experiences
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...on-so-far.html
I haven't 100% decided on method im going with springs , adjustable springs or coilovers but leaning towards coilovers, probably BC Racing.
Now the real question is what's up with the different part# for the rear springs that occasionally comes for the wagon? is this really a big deal or do the sedan kits work just fine ? no one seems to have a solid answer, I've messaged a few places and got back different answers, H&R doesn't even have a listing for the part#
if you have lowered your wagon using any of these methods id love to hear your input on before and after install driving experiences
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So I've been thinking about lowering my wagon im pretty sure im done with cosmetic stuff ...... maybe lol
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...on-so-far.html
I haven't 100% decided on method im going with springs , adjustable springs or coilovers but leaning towards coilovers, probably BC Racing.
Now the real question is what's up with the different part# for the rear springs that occasionally comes for the wagon? is this really a big deal or do the sedan kits work just fine ? no one seems to have a solid answer, I've messaged a few places and got back different answers, H&R doesn't even have a listing for the part#
if you have lowered your wagon using any of these methods id love to hear your input on before and after install driving experiences
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...on-so-far.html
I haven't 100% decided on method im going with springs , adjustable springs or coilovers but leaning towards coilovers, probably BC Racing.
Now the real question is what's up with the different part# for the rear springs that occasionally comes for the wagon? is this really a big deal or do the sedan kits work just fine ? no one seems to have a solid answer, I've messaged a few places and got back different answers, H&R doesn't even have a listing for the part#
if you have lowered your wagon using any of these methods id love to hear your input on before and after install driving experiences
Out of the gate, be aware that the closer you get to the ground the more you sacrifice ride quality, so if that's important to you, you may want to take that into account in your decision making.
The exception to this is going with air ride/air bags, but there's a much higher cost for that advantage of retaining a comfy ride quality.
I would not recommend fixed springs to anyone, JMO. With fixed springs, say if your rear is a bit lower than the front and you don't like it, too bad, you're stuck with what you got.
If you're leaning towards coilovers, I did this on my W205 and went with Silver's NEOMAX coilovers and was super happy with them. Excellent quality and the damping adjustment was awesome, could go full soft to full hard and everything in-between.
Plus you'll gain additional handling abilities, if you like corners.
Good luck with whatever you end up doing!
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yeah I agree, coilers probably the way to go, hopefully some of the guys that have lowered their wagons will chime in with some insight too. im just wondering if the sedan rears would make the car drive differently vs a set up for a wagon.
I'll take a look at the Silver NEOMAX coilovers too
I'll take a look at the Silver NEOMAX coilovers too
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so I got a reply from BC racing and they basically said their kit is for the W205 AWD chassis but they've never tested it on a wagon so can't confirm anything for the wagon.
Haven't heard back from Silvers yet but a quick look on their website they do have a listing for S205 coilovers, so that's a plus lol
Haven't heard back from Silvers yet but a quick look on their website they do have a listing for S205 coilovers, so that's a plus lol
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I find it highly unlikely that the rear springs would have any different dimensions at the spring perches. So they would all fit, but it comes down to having the proper spring rate.
This makes sense since the wagon is heavier in the rear and may even have a higher load carrying capacity compared to a sedan or coupe.
Probably why Silver's has an offering, since they can provide a wide range of spring rates, both stock and custom.
This makes sense since the wagon is heavier in the rear and may even have a higher load carrying capacity compared to a sedan or coupe.
Probably why Silver's has an offering, since they can provide a wide range of spring rates, both stock and custom.
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yeah I assumed they were referring to the actual spring rates too. Hopefully silvers comes through.
wagon is definitely a little heavier, I just don't see it handling right with sedan springs looks wise they're probably fine. Worst case maybe I can compensate with the damping/hight adjustment offered with coilovers.
wagon is definitely a little heavier, I just don't see it handling right with sedan springs looks wise they're probably fine. Worst case maybe I can compensate with the damping/hight adjustment offered with coilovers.
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You are right, the spring rates absolutely affect handling and ride quality. Having too light of a spring rate would definitely have a negative impact.
From my understanding of how this type of suspension system works, ride height or damping adjustments will not be able to compensate for an incorrect spring rate.
From my understanding of how this type of suspension system works, ride height or damping adjustments will not be able to compensate for an incorrect spring rate.
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got a reply back regarding H&R spring from a supplier in Germany
I can offer you lowering springs from H8R
28811-1 with lowering -30mm front/rear for vehicles with sport suspension (not AMG)
28811-4 with lowering -45mm /-35mm front/rear for vehicles with standard suspension or AMG suspension
Kindest regards
I assume the AMG Line cars just have sport tuned suspension so 28811-1 is the set to have IF you want springs ?
KW suspension apparently has option, will contact them too
I can offer you lowering springs from H8R
28811-1 with lowering -30mm front/rear for vehicles with sport suspension (not AMG)
28811-4 with lowering -45mm /-35mm front/rear for vehicles with standard suspension or AMG suspension
Kindest regards
I assume the AMG Line cars just have sport tuned suspension so 28811-1 is the set to have IF you want springs ?
KW suspension apparently has option, will contact them too
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