2013 cls63
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2013 cls63
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I am a long time M156 owner and about to upgrade to a CLS63. Found a 2013 locally. Is there any known issue and tips when looking for an used one? Thank you so much!
I am a long time M156 owner and about to upgrade to a CLS63. Found a 2013 locally. Is there any known issue and tips when looking for an used one? Thank you so much!
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Good luck, please post a photo when it arrives. You know about head bolts and cams, right? The rest is CLS-related, which can be found using the search button and reading the CLS section. Mainly electrical would be the things to watch out for, my guess. I would replace the main and aux batteries right away, based on principle. Check for leaks and water infiltration in the trunk around the taillamps.
Steering, suspension, brakes and cooling are generally OK across most models.
Steering, suspension, brakes and cooling are generally OK across most models.
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Good luck, please post a photo when it arrives. You know about head bolts and cams, right? The rest is CLS-related, which can be found using the search button and reading the CLS section. Mainly electrical would be the things to watch out for, my guess. I would replace the main and aux batteries right away, based on principle. Check for leaks and water infiltration in the trunk around the taillamps.
Steering, suspension, brakes and cooling are generally OK across most models.
Steering, suspension, brakes and cooling are generally OK across most models.
M157 2013 model still has the head bold and cams issue? I thought that problem only for M156 from 2007 to early 2012.
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Hi and Good Luck!
Hi you might want to check this out. We share lots/most of our components with the W212. You can also browse their forums, it’s a lot more active than the w218 forum.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-w212-amg.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-w212-amg.html
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Hi you might want to check this out. We share lots/most of our components with the W212. You can also browse their forums, it’s a lot more active than the w218 forum.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-w212-amg.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-w212-amg.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...63-4matic.html
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The one I've checked out today has ceramic brakes. The car is 7yo, 24k miles, and in excellent condition. Someone told me that When it's time to replace the rotor and pads for CC brake, it will be a nightmare. Anyone has CC brakes? My 07 E63, 100k, and still has its original rotors. As far as I know, CC will last longer than this. Any inputs guys? Thanks.
Can we replace CC with steel rotors?
Can we replace CC with steel rotors?
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CCB’s should last up to 100k miles, so unless you’re planning to push that car to six figure miles I wouldn’t worry about it. At the same time, if you’re not going to track the car then the CCB’s are overkill (and are also very noisey”
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The only reason I would want them is for the reduced brake dust lol. Brake dust is a **** on these cars. The extra Performance benefits are nice but the regular brakes are still performance brakes (Im not one to hit the track). But with everything there are risks...rock chips, have to be careful changing tires, etc
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Good luck, please post a photo when it arrives. You know about head bolts and cams, right? The rest is CLS-related, which can be found using the search button and reading the CLS section. Mainly electrical would be the things to watch out for, my guess. I would replace the main and aux batteries right away, based on principle. Check for leaks and water infiltration in the trunk around the taillamps.
Steering, suspension, brakes and cooling are generally OK across most models.
Steering, suspension, brakes and cooling are generally OK across most models.
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If I knew the history of car (ie the car wasn’t heavily tracked) or i was able to get the rotors weighed and they still have tons of life then I would go for it.
The only reason I would want them is for the reduced brake dust lol. Brake dust is a **** on these cars. The extra Performance benefits are nice but the regular brakes are still performance brakes (Im not one to hit the track). But with everything there are risks...rock chips, have to be careful changing tires, etc
The only reason I would want them is for the reduced brake dust lol. Brake dust is a **** on these cars. The extra Performance benefits are nice but the regular brakes are still performance brakes (Im not one to hit the track). But with everything there are risks...rock chips, have to be careful changing tires, etc
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I need to do a couple simple mods to custom the car to my taste.
First one is resonator delete. Do you have any suggestion for straight vs x-pipe?
Second: Lower the ride with H&R coil springs? Is this some kind of DIYs or dealer's job?
Seems like not many W218 owners add the rear diffusion or front lip spoiler to your car?
First one is resonator delete. Do you have any suggestion for straight vs x-pipe?
Second: Lower the ride with H&R coil springs? Is this some kind of DIYs or dealer's job?
Seems like not many W218 owners add the rear diffusion or front lip spoiler to your car?
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I need to do a couple simple mods to custom the car to taste.
First one is resonator delete. Do you have any suggestion for straight vs x-pipe?
Second: Lower the ride with H&R coil springs? Is this some kind of DIYs or dealer's job?
Seems like not many W218 owners add the rear diffusion or front lip spoiler to your car?
First one is resonator delete. Do you have any suggestion for straight vs x-pipe?
Second: Lower the ride with H&R coil springs? Is this some kind of DIYs or dealer's job?
Seems like not many W218 owners add the rear diffusion or front lip spoiler to your car?
i did the res delete on mine W218. just went with straight pipe as i read that, with turbos, there was no benefit of the x-pipe. also, i lowered mine on H&R's, as well. for me, the drop is perfect (i also used spacers in the rear) so i saw no need for the extra expense of coilovers. and yeah...i'm pretty handy around a car but springs were a bit outside of my skill level. the links in the back (air suspension so there are no springs in the back, in case you werent familiar), however, i could have done.
lastly, i added a rear diffuser but its just a CF version of the one that came with the car. the RT-style rear was a bit too boy-racer for me and obstructed the view of the exhaust tips when looking at the car from the side.
Here’s a pic of the drop on the H&R/links combo.
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congrats on the new ride!!!
i did the res delete on mine W218. just went with straight pipe as i read that, with turbos, there was no benefit of the x-pipe. also, i lowered mine on H&R's, as well. for me, the drop is perfect (i also used spacers in the rear) so i saw no need for the extra expense of coilovers. and yeah...i'm pretty handy around a car but springs were a bit outside of my skill level. the links in the back (air suspension so there are no springs in the back, in case you werent familiar), however, i could have done.
lastly, i added a rear diffuser but its just a CF version of the one that came with the car. the RT-style rear was a bit too boy-racer for me and obstructed the view of the exhaust tips when looking at the car from the side.
i did the res delete on mine W218. just went with straight pipe as i read that, with turbos, there was no benefit of the x-pipe. also, i lowered mine on H&R's, as well. for me, the drop is perfect (i also used spacers in the rear) so i saw no need for the extra expense of coilovers. and yeah...i'm pretty handy around a car but springs were a bit outside of my skill level. the links in the back (air suspension so there are no springs in the back, in case you werent familiar), however, i could have done.
lastly, i added a rear diffuser but its just a CF version of the one that came with the car. the RT-style rear was a bit too boy-racer for me and obstructed the view of the exhaust tips when looking at the car from the side.
I had resonator deleted with straight pipes on my E63, I am going to do the same for the CLS. Thanks.
Last edited by dustinN; 10-30-2020 at 05:46 PM.
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That's exactly what I want to do for my car. I will let the pro replace the H&R coil springs. I the rear, will by the link from ebay and I can do it myself. I agreed with you on the rear diffuser. I want it a bit more aggressive but nothing like boy-racer. I think when you lower the ride, the car looks more aggressive already. Thanks.
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https://www.tunershop.com/shop/h-r-s...cls63-amg.html
Found this one for $100 cheaper than on Amazon
Found this one for $100 cheaper than on Amazon
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https://www.tunershop.com/shop/h-r-s...cls63-amg.html
Found this one for $100 cheaper than on Amazon
Found this one for $100 cheaper than on Amazon
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What I understand is we need only 2 in the front. In the rear, we will need adjustable links. Correct? The description says 4 coil springs.
==> never mind, verified with sale rep that part includes only 2 front coilsprings.
==> never mind, verified with sale rep that part includes only 2 front coilsprings.
Last edited by dustinN; 09-24-2020 at 02:05 PM.
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Left foot hard on brake pedal.
Then you should be able to spin the C/S/S+ dial to RS/race start.
Then it'll say right paddle accept left to cancel or whatever so right paddle.
Then foot on gas, revs up, release brake, and off you get.
But again, you have to make sure traction control is in the right setting to even get the ball rolling. Sounds like a lot but once you know the process it's easy.
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About a week too late, but here is the latest CCB discussion over at the W212 forum. https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...cost-life.html.
Congrats on the new ride... and, I am sure that you have noted by now that the brakes are NOT "noisy" as someone mentioned above. Enjoy the new ride!
Congrats on the new ride... and, I am sure that you have noted by now that the brakes are NOT "noisy" as someone mentioned above. Enjoy the new ride!
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