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Old Sep 13, 2018 | 10:38 PM
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Looking T purchasing 2014 E63 4matic

looking at purchasing a 2014 e63 with 25k mikes on it. Anything I should look out for?
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Sep 13, 2018, 11:44 PM
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ECU dyno tune; EDOK TCU tune; BB intakes; sprintbooster

AC issues: ac button blinking:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ac-button.html

ac smells:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ml#post7751277

Want to replace out of warranty steering wheel?
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ing-wheel.html

is this car worth getting over 100k miles?
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...100kmiles.html

Vibration at idle or misfiring?
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...up-idling.html

Shortened chime:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ml#post7759205

flaking and peeling of red caliper clear coat - covered by the b2b and ELW warranty
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-calipers.html

hesitation during shifts under wot (wide open throttle aka hard acceleration): check plugs and coils
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ml#post7750230

center driveshaft bearing (2016 models) causes humming vibration around 30-50mph front center console - replace center driveshaft bearing:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ain-30mph.html

multiple headlamp dash error messages
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-messages.html

check for torn, leaking front CV boots - thanks Fastwgnhttps://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-our-cars.html

a whistling heard while at 50+ mph is the front grill that needs a tsb repair
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...nt-grille.html

clicking over 50mph
see link:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...nd-help-3.html

clicking from front end while driving has been described and has a fixhttps://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ound-help.html

brake life? All services done?

make sure eco works ... if doesn't could be cps problem and won't throw code, could be dead or dying auxiliary battery

Auto open and close trunk should be smooth

damage to the front air damn left right radiator/cooling system ... stones etc

get it up on lift and look for leaks

wheel balance ... bent rims ... vibes in steering, bubbles in tires

alcantara steering wheel excessive wear- may be covered under warranty- https://mbworld.org/forums/c450-c43-...ture-wear.html

active seat function should be flawless and smooth

peeling of center console buttons

check for any excessive vibrations in steering wheel at startup (motor mounts)

Check parktronic buttons are not pushed in

check for noises or groaning while turning in a parking lot (axles)
- keep in mind that wheel hop on summer tires in cold weather is normal and indicates that you shouldn't drive summer tires in the cold
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...-skipping.html

- steering groans/moans:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...s-morning.html

weird jerky mct behavior:
- mct wet clutch may need to be re adapted
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...r-service.html
- trans may need to be re adapted
- may need replacement wet clutch
- intake manifold problem
- tcu updates available per dealer
- do a tcu reset yourself first!!https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...tcu-reset.html


make sure seller knows if it was tuned or not .. if it was tuned it'll be flagged by benz
- have been cpo cars that have been tuned and dealer didn't check
- tuning requires opening up the ecu in certain circumstances
- flagged = "status 8" and cannot be CPO'd
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...tech-tune.html

check for pano creaking up inclines
https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ml#post6076954

check for alignment and excessive tires wear
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...r-i-think.html

tensioner rattle beyond the few seconds at startup
read this:!!!
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...rs-beware.html

shifting harshness could suggest bad valve body

make sure icomand controller works and gear shifter works flawlessly

shifter can have intermittent problems shifting into park; commonly reported; whole shifter unit needs to be replaced
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...errerid=317874

Check cloth air intakes for holes
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...going-bad.html

check airmatic works flawlessly

motor mounts can go after 25-30k (thanks vrod) and can transmit a rough vibe in steering especially while in park and even with warmed up engine
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-upgrades.html

Check auxiliary battery health and main battery health

and all the usual things you check a used car for
check for lemon/salvage title or buy back report on carfax
check service records or carfax for recurrent problems or big repairs
use paint meter to check for bodywork
check for air leaking in tires ... check tire pressures and identify if one is lower than othersGET A PPI!!!! Don't trust the CPO process!!! (PRE- purchase inspection) ... it's the best $200-300 you'll ever spend

was the car used at the amg academy? If so, pass!!
Old Sep 13, 2018 | 11:44 PM
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ECU dyno tune; EDOK TCU tune; BB intakes; sprintbooster

AC issues: ac button blinking:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ac-button.html

ac smells:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ml#post7751277

Want to replace out of warranty steering wheel?
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ing-wheel.html

is this car worth getting over 100k miles?
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...100kmiles.html

Vibration at idle or misfiring?
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...up-idling.html

Shortened chime:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ml#post7759205

flaking and peeling of red caliper clear coat - covered by the b2b and ELW warranty
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-calipers.html

hesitation during shifts under wot (wide open throttle aka hard acceleration): check plugs and coils
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ml#post7750230

center driveshaft bearing (2016 models) causes humming vibration around 30-50mph front center console - replace center driveshaft bearing:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ain-30mph.html

multiple headlamp dash error messages
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-messages.html

check for torn, leaking front CV boots - thanks Fastwgnhttps://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-our-cars.html

a whistling heard while at 50+ mph is the front grill that needs a tsb repair
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...nt-grille.html

clicking over 50mph
see link:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...nd-help-3.html

clicking from front end while driving has been described and has a fixhttps://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ound-help.html

brake life? All services done?

make sure eco works ... if doesn't could be cps problem and won't throw code, could be dead or dying auxiliary battery

Auto open and close trunk should be smooth

damage to the front air damn left right radiator/cooling system ... stones etc

get it up on lift and look for leaks

wheel balance ... bent rims ... vibes in steering, bubbles in tires

alcantara steering wheel excessive wear- may be covered under warranty- https://mbworld.org/forums/c450-c43-...ture-wear.html

active seat function should be flawless and smooth

peeling of center console buttons

check for any excessive vibrations in steering wheel at startup (motor mounts)

Check parktronic buttons are not pushed in

check for noises or groaning while turning in a parking lot (axles)
- keep in mind that wheel hop on summer tires in cold weather is normal and indicates that you shouldn't drive summer tires in the cold
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...-skipping.html

- steering groans/moans:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...s-morning.html

weird jerky mct behavior:
- mct wet clutch may need to be re adapted
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...r-service.html
- trans may need to be re adapted
- may need replacement wet clutch
- intake manifold problem
- tcu updates available per dealer
- do a tcu reset yourself first!!https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...tcu-reset.html


make sure seller knows if it was tuned or not .. if it was tuned it'll be flagged by benz
- have been cpo cars that have been tuned and dealer didn't check
- tuning requires opening up the ecu in certain circumstances
- flagged = "status 8" and cannot be CPO'd
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...tech-tune.html

check for pano creaking up inclines
https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ml#post6076954

check for alignment and excessive tires wear
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...r-i-think.html

tensioner rattle beyond the few seconds at startup
read this:!!!
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...rs-beware.html

shifting harshness could suggest bad valve body

make sure icomand controller works and gear shifter works flawlessly

shifter can have intermittent problems shifting into park; commonly reported; whole shifter unit needs to be replaced
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...errerid=317874

Check cloth air intakes for holes
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...going-bad.html

check airmatic works flawlessly

motor mounts can go after 25-30k (thanks vrod) and can transmit a rough vibe in steering especially while in park and even with warmed up engine
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-upgrades.html

Check auxiliary battery health and main battery health

and all the usual things you check a used car for
check for lemon/salvage title or buy back report on carfax
check service records or carfax for recurrent problems or big repairs
use paint meter to check for bodywork
check for air leaking in tires ... check tire pressures and identify if one is lower than othersGET A PPI!!!! Don't trust the CPO process!!! (PRE- purchase inspection) ... it's the best $200-300 you'll ever spend

was the car used at the amg academy? If so, pass!!

Last edited by PeterUbers; Jun 6, 2019 at 12:10 AM.
Old Sep 14, 2018 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers

flaking and peeling of red caliper clear coat

a whistling heard while at 50+ mph is the front grill that needs a tsb repair

clicking from front end while driving has been described and has a fix

brake life? All services done?

make sure eco works ... if doesn't could be cps problem and won't throw code

Auto open and close trunk should be smooth

damage to the front air damn left right radiator/cooling system ... stones etc

get it up on lift and look for leaks

wheel balance ... bent rims ... vibes in steering, bubbles in tires

alcantara steering wheel excessive wear

active seat function should be flawless and smooth

peeling of center console buttons

check for any excessive vibrations in steering wheel at startup (motor mounts)

Check parktronic buttons are not pushed in

check for noises or groaning while turning in a parking lot (axles)

weird jerky mct behavior

make sure seller knows if it was tuned or not .. if it was tuned it'll be flagged by benz

check for pano creaking up inclines

check for alignment and excessive tires wear

check for steering heaviness ... groaning

tensioner rattle beyond the few seconds at startup

shifting harshness could suggest bad valve body

make sure icomand controller works and gear shifter works flawlessly

Check cloth air intakes for holes

check airmatic works flawlessly

Check auxiliary battery health and main battery health

and all the usual things you check a used car for
check for lemon title or buy back report on carfax
check service records or carfax for recurrent problems or big repairs
use paint meter to check for bodywork
check for air leaking in tires ... check tire pressures and identify if one is lower than others
And this is exactly why I got the extended warranty. 7 year / 160,000 km !!
Already had the bad valve body issue. Replaced solenoids in the tranny at 47,000 km (29,000 miles).
There was a leak near the turbo hose and got that replaced as well at 62,000 km
CV Boot leak on both front wheels that got replaced at 62,000 km
Now I have another 4 years and 100,000 km!

Car is 2016 and has 63,000 km so I do like to drive it, summer and winter!

Iron Sheik
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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 02:35 PM
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Why don't we make this a sticky and keep working on it for future used e63S buyers
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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers

flaking and peeling of red caliper clear coat

check for torn, leaking front CV boots - thanks Fastwgn

a whistling heard while at 50+ mph is the front grill that needs a tsb repair

clicking from front end while driving has been described and has a fix

brake life? All services done?

make sure eco works ... if doesn't could be cps problem and won't throw code

Auto open and close trunk should be smooth

damage to the front air damn left right radiator/cooling system ... stones etc

get it up on lift and look for leaks

wheel balance ... bent rims ... vibes in steering, bubbles in tires

alcantara steering wheel excessive wear

active seat function should be flawless and smooth

peeling of center console buttons

check for any excessive vibrations in steering wheel at startup (motor mounts)

Check parktronic buttons are not pushed in

check for noises or groaning while turning in a parking lot (axles)

weird jerky mct behavior

make sure seller knows if it was tuned or not .. if it was tuned it'll be flagged by benz

check for pano creaking up inclines

check for alignment and excessive tires wear

check for steering heaviness ... groaning

tensioner rattle beyond the few seconds at startup

shifting harshness could suggest bad valve body

make sure icomand controller works and gear shifter works flawlessly

Check cloth air intakes for holes

check airmatic works flawlessly

Check auxiliary battery health and main battery health

and all the usual things you check a used car for
check for lemon title or buy back report on carfax
check service records or carfax for recurrent problems or big repairs
use paint meter to check for bodywork
check for air leaking in tires ... check tire pressures and identify if one is lower than others
Thanks Peter, your the man. Just wish I had this list a few years ago, very helpful and should make it into a sticky.

Last edited by S63AMG888; Sep 17, 2018 at 07:02 PM.
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Old Oct 13, 2018 | 06:32 AM
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Definitely a sticky!
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Old Dec 15, 2018 | 03:23 PM
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I am going to echo what a prior poster said about 4Matic - even if you are in a non-snow area it is very much worth it. I am in Atlanta and while we might see snow 2-3x per year the sure footedness of 4Matic is even evident in dry and wet conditions, you just punch the gas down and 90% of the time there is no wheelspin and no drama, My RWD C300 while for a RWD car was super stable, it was possible to get the rear end squirrelly if it was wet out and ESP can only do so much until it just shuts down the party all together. 4Matic the back will get squirrely for a quick second then it will get back in line - have not tried it in snow so this is just wet conditions where I have put the 4Matic to the test.

Other than that the 4Matic (E350 4Matic vs C300 RWD) feels more balanced when doing a high power turning maneuver (imagine squirting across oncoming traffic to turn on a perpendicular street). When I had my C300 I was like 'I don't need 4Matic in Atlanta', after driving it I can't imagine owning another RWD MB.
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Old Feb 20, 2019 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers


check for noises or groaning while turning in a parking lot (axles)


really appreciate this, Peter. can you speak on this point a lil further (or point me in the right direction)? i notice this more prominently now that its colder.
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 1MavRick
really appreciate this, Peter. can you speak on this point a lil further (or point me in the right direction)? i notice this more prominently now that its colder.
first thing to differentiate from is wheel hop if you're still using summer tires in colder weather .... vs axle issues vs power steering issues ....
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Old May 28, 2019 | 01:41 PM
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Thought I would pose this question in this thread -

Are there production numbers for the different years also broken down by options/colors/etc?

For example, if I want a White on Black with carbon ceramics and B&O stereo - how many are there? That would definitely affect price and how hard I would search for the exact combo I would want.
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Old May 28, 2019 | 01:55 PM
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Gonna chime in here and say that going that deep would be impossible for us to see, and that information would be very inaccurate unless it came from Corporate, and all information was confirmed with every single dealer that had the car delivered, sold, etc.

Numbers could get inaccurate very very quickly if a step was missed.

I know in the UK you could look up and see how many vehicles were on the road of a model, but nothing as far as specs, colors, etc.
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Old May 29, 2019 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Andriy242
Gonna chime in here and say that going that deep would be impossible for us to see, and that information would be very inaccurate unless it came from Corporate, and all information was confirmed with every single dealer that had the car delivered, sold, etc.

Numbers could get inaccurate very very quickly if a step was missed.

I know in the UK you could look up and see how many vehicles were on the road of a model, but nothing as far as specs, colors, etc.
I guess I was just hoping a forum member would have the information. I know on some other boards I have been a part of, that information is graciously posted by someone with access to the information.
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