Looking T purchasing 2014 E63 4matic
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Looking T purchasing 2014 E63 4matic
looking at purchasing a 2014 e63 with 25k mikes on it. Anything I should look out for?
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ecu tune; edok tcu tune; BB intakes; dyno tuned
AC issues: ac button blinking:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ac-button.html
ac smells:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ml#post7751277
Want to replace out of warranty steering wheel?
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ing-wheel.html
is this car worth getting over 100k miles?
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...100kmiles.html
Vibration at idle or misfiring?
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...up-idling.html
Shortened chime:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ml#post7759205
flaking and peeling of red caliper clear coat - covered by the b2b and ELW warranty
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-calipers.html
hesitation during shifts under wot (wide open throttle aka hard acceleration): check plugs and coils
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ml#post7750230
center driveshaft bearing (2016 models) causes humming vibration around 30-50mph front center console - replace center driveshaft bearing:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ain-30mph.html
multiple headlamp dash error messages
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-messages.html
check for torn, leaking front CV boots - thanks Fastwgnhttps://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-our-cars.html
a whistling heard while at 50+ mph is the front grill that needs a tsb repair
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...nt-grille.html
clicking over 50mph
see link:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...nd-help-3.html
clicking from front end while driving has been described and has a fixhttps://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ound-help.html
brake life? All services done?
make sure eco works ... if doesn't could be cps problem and won't throw code, could be dead or dying auxiliary battery
Auto open and close trunk should be smooth
damage to the front air damn left right radiator/cooling system ... stones etc
get it up on lift and look for leaks
wheel balance ... bent rims ... vibes in steering, bubbles in tires
alcantara steering wheel excessive wear- may be covered under warranty- https://mbworld.org/forums/c450-c43-...ture-wear.html
active seat function should be flawless and smooth
peeling of center console buttons
check for any excessive vibrations in steering wheel at startup (motor mounts)
Check parktronic buttons are not pushed in
check for noises or groaning while turning in a parking lot (axles)
- keep in mind that wheel hop on summer tires in cold weather is normal and indicates that you shouldn't drive summer tires in the cold
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...-skipping.html
- steering groans/moans:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...s-morning.html
weird jerky mct behavior:
- mct wet clutch may need to be re adapted
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...r-service.html
- trans may need to be re adapted
- may need replacement wet clutch
- intake manifold problem
- tcu updates available per dealer
- do a tcu reset yourself first!!https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...tcu-reset.html
make sure seller knows if it was tuned or not .. if it was tuned it'll be flagged by benz
- have been cpo cars that have been tuned and dealer didn't check
- tuning requires opening up the ecu in certain circumstances
- flagged = "status 8" and cannot be CPO'd
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...tech-tune.html
check for pano creaking up inclines
https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ml#post6076954
check for alignment and excessive tires wear
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...r-i-think.html
tensioner rattle beyond the few seconds at startup
read this:!!!
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...rs-beware.html
shifting harshness could suggest bad valve body
make sure icomand controller works and gear shifter works flawlessly
shifter can have intermittent problems shifting into park; commonly reported; whole shifter unit needs to be replaced
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...errerid=317874
Check cloth air intakes for holes
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...going-bad.html
check airmatic works flawlessly
motor mounts can go after 25-30k (thanks vrod) and can transmit a rough vibe in steering especially while in park and even with warmed up engine
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-upgrades.html
Check auxiliary battery health and main battery health
and all the usual things you check a used car for
check for lemon/salvage title or buy back report on carfax
check service records or carfax for recurrent problems or big repairs
use paint meter to check for bodywork
check for air leaking in tires ... check tire pressures and identify if one is lower than othersGET A PPI!!!! Don't trust the CPO process!!! (PRE- purchase inspection) ... it's the best $200-300 you'll ever spend
was the car used at the amg academy? If so, pass!!
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ecu tune; edok tcu tune; BB intakes; dyno tuned
AC issues: ac button blinking:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ac-button.html
ac smells:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ml#post7751277
Want to replace out of warranty steering wheel?
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ing-wheel.html
is this car worth getting over 100k miles?
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...100kmiles.html
Vibration at idle or misfiring?
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...up-idling.html
Shortened chime:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ml#post7759205
flaking and peeling of red caliper clear coat - covered by the b2b and ELW warranty
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-calipers.html
hesitation during shifts under wot (wide open throttle aka hard acceleration): check plugs and coils
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ml#post7750230
center driveshaft bearing (2016 models) causes humming vibration around 30-50mph front center console - replace center driveshaft bearing:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ain-30mph.html
multiple headlamp dash error messages
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-messages.html
check for torn, leaking front CV boots - thanks Fastwgnhttps://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-our-cars.html
a whistling heard while at 50+ mph is the front grill that needs a tsb repair
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...nt-grille.html
clicking over 50mph
see link:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...nd-help-3.html
clicking from front end while driving has been described and has a fixhttps://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ound-help.html
brake life? All services done?
make sure eco works ... if doesn't could be cps problem and won't throw code, could be dead or dying auxiliary battery
Auto open and close trunk should be smooth
damage to the front air damn left right radiator/cooling system ... stones etc
get it up on lift and look for leaks
wheel balance ... bent rims ... vibes in steering, bubbles in tires
alcantara steering wheel excessive wear- may be covered under warranty- https://mbworld.org/forums/c450-c43-...ture-wear.html
active seat function should be flawless and smooth
peeling of center console buttons
check for any excessive vibrations in steering wheel at startup (motor mounts)
Check parktronic buttons are not pushed in
check for noises or groaning while turning in a parking lot (axles)
- keep in mind that wheel hop on summer tires in cold weather is normal and indicates that you shouldn't drive summer tires in the cold
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...-skipping.html
- steering groans/moans:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...s-morning.html
weird jerky mct behavior:
- mct wet clutch may need to be re adapted
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...r-service.html
- trans may need to be re adapted
- may need replacement wet clutch
- intake manifold problem
- tcu updates available per dealer
- do a tcu reset yourself first!!https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...tcu-reset.html
make sure seller knows if it was tuned or not .. if it was tuned it'll be flagged by benz
- have been cpo cars that have been tuned and dealer didn't check
- tuning requires opening up the ecu in certain circumstances
- flagged = "status 8" and cannot be CPO'd
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...tech-tune.html
check for pano creaking up inclines
https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ml#post6076954
check for alignment and excessive tires wear
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...r-i-think.html
tensioner rattle beyond the few seconds at startup
read this:!!!
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...rs-beware.html
shifting harshness could suggest bad valve body
make sure icomand controller works and gear shifter works flawlessly
shifter can have intermittent problems shifting into park; commonly reported; whole shifter unit needs to be replaced
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...errerid=317874
Check cloth air intakes for holes
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...going-bad.html
check airmatic works flawlessly
motor mounts can go after 25-30k (thanks vrod) and can transmit a rough vibe in steering especially while in park and even with warmed up engine
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-upgrades.html
Check auxiliary battery health and main battery health
and all the usual things you check a used car for
check for lemon/salvage title or buy back report on carfax
check service records or carfax for recurrent problems or big repairs
use paint meter to check for bodywork
check for air leaking in tires ... check tire pressures and identify if one is lower than othersGET A PPI!!!! Don't trust the CPO process!!! (PRE- purchase inspection) ... it's the best $200-300 you'll ever spend
was the car used at the amg academy? If so, pass!!
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flaking and peeling of red caliper clear coat
a whistling heard while at 50+ mph is the front grill that needs a tsb repair
clicking from front end while driving has been described and has a fix
brake life? All services done?
make sure eco works ... if doesn't could be cps problem and won't throw code
Auto open and close trunk should be smooth
damage to the front air damn left right radiator/cooling system ... stones etc
get it up on lift and look for leaks
wheel balance ... bent rims ... vibes in steering, bubbles in tires
alcantara steering wheel excessive wear
active seat function should be flawless and smooth
peeling of center console buttons
check for any excessive vibrations in steering wheel at startup (motor mounts)
Check parktronic buttons are not pushed in
check for noises or groaning while turning in a parking lot (axles)
weird jerky mct behavior
make sure seller knows if it was tuned or not .. if it was tuned it'll be flagged by benz
check for pano creaking up inclines
check for alignment and excessive tires wear
check for steering heaviness ... groaning
tensioner rattle beyond the few seconds at startup
shifting harshness could suggest bad valve body
make sure icomand controller works and gear shifter works flawlessly
Check cloth air intakes for holes
check airmatic works flawlessly
Check auxiliary battery health and main battery health
and all the usual things you check a used car for
check for lemon title or buy back report on carfax
check service records or carfax for recurrent problems or big repairs
use paint meter to check for bodywork
check for air leaking in tires ... check tire pressures and identify if one is lower than others
Already had the bad valve body issue. Replaced solenoids in the tranny at 47,000 km (29,000 miles).
There was a leak near the turbo hose and got that replaced as well at 62,000 km
CV Boot leak on both front wheels that got replaced at 62,000 km
Now I have another 4 years and 100,000 km!
Car is 2016 and has 63,000 km so I do like to drive it, summer and winter!
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Why don't we make this a sticky and keep working on it for future used e63S buyers
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flaking and peeling of red caliper clear coat
check for torn, leaking front CV boots - thanks Fastwgn
a whistling heard while at 50+ mph is the front grill that needs a tsb repair
clicking from front end while driving has been described and has a fix
brake life? All services done?
make sure eco works ... if doesn't could be cps problem and won't throw code
Auto open and close trunk should be smooth
damage to the front air damn left right radiator/cooling system ... stones etc
get it up on lift and look for leaks
wheel balance ... bent rims ... vibes in steering, bubbles in tires
alcantara steering wheel excessive wear
active seat function should be flawless and smooth
peeling of center console buttons
check for any excessive vibrations in steering wheel at startup (motor mounts)
Check parktronic buttons are not pushed in
check for noises or groaning while turning in a parking lot (axles)
weird jerky mct behavior
make sure seller knows if it was tuned or not .. if it was tuned it'll be flagged by benz
check for pano creaking up inclines
check for alignment and excessive tires wear
check for steering heaviness ... groaning
tensioner rattle beyond the few seconds at startup
shifting harshness could suggest bad valve body
make sure icomand controller works and gear shifter works flawlessly
Check cloth air intakes for holes
check airmatic works flawlessly
Check auxiliary battery health and main battery health
and all the usual things you check a used car for
check for lemon title or buy back report on carfax
check service records or carfax for recurrent problems or big repairs
use paint meter to check for bodywork
check for air leaking in tires ... check tire pressures and identify if one is lower than others
Last edited by S63AMG888; 09-17-2018 at 07:02 PM.
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I am going to echo what a prior poster said about 4Matic - even if you are in a non-snow area it is very much worth it. I am in Atlanta and while we might see snow 2-3x per year the sure footedness of 4Matic is even evident in dry and wet conditions, you just punch the gas down and 90% of the time there is no wheelspin and no drama, My RWD C300 while for a RWD car was super stable, it was possible to get the rear end squirrelly if it was wet out and ESP can only do so much until it just shuts down the party all together. 4Matic the back will get squirrely for a quick second then it will get back in line - have not tried it in snow so this is just wet conditions where I have put the 4Matic to the test.
Other than that the 4Matic (E350 4Matic vs C300 RWD) feels more balanced when doing a high power turning maneuver (imagine squirting across oncoming traffic to turn on a perpendicular street). When I had my C300 I was like 'I don't need 4Matic in Atlanta', after driving it I can't imagine owning another RWD MB.
Other than that the 4Matic (E350 4Matic vs C300 RWD) feels more balanced when doing a high power turning maneuver (imagine squirting across oncoming traffic to turn on a perpendicular street). When I had my C300 I was like 'I don't need 4Matic in Atlanta', after driving it I can't imagine owning another RWD MB.
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first thing to differentiate from is wheel hop if you're still using summer tires in colder weather .... vs axle issues vs power steering issues ....
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Thought I would pose this question in this thread -
Are there production numbers for the different years also broken down by options/colors/etc?
For example, if I want a White on Black with carbon ceramics and B&O stereo - how many are there? That would definitely affect price and how hard I would search for the exact combo I would want.
Are there production numbers for the different years also broken down by options/colors/etc?
For example, if I want a White on Black with carbon ceramics and B&O stereo - how many are there? That would definitely affect price and how hard I would search for the exact combo I would want.
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Gonna chime in here and say that going that deep would be impossible for us to see, and that information would be very inaccurate unless it came from Corporate, and all information was confirmed with every single dealer that had the car delivered, sold, etc.
Numbers could get inaccurate very very quickly if a step was missed.
I know in the UK you could look up and see how many vehicles were on the road of a model, but nothing as far as specs, colors, etc.
Numbers could get inaccurate very very quickly if a step was missed.
I know in the UK you could look up and see how many vehicles were on the road of a model, but nothing as far as specs, colors, etc.
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Gonna chime in here and say that going that deep would be impossible for us to see, and that information would be very inaccurate unless it came from Corporate, and all information was confirmed with every single dealer that had the car delivered, sold, etc.
Numbers could get inaccurate very very quickly if a step was missed.
I know in the UK you could look up and see how many vehicles were on the road of a model, but nothing as far as specs, colors, etc.
Numbers could get inaccurate very very quickly if a step was missed.
I know in the UK you could look up and see how many vehicles were on the road of a model, but nothing as far as specs, colors, etc.