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Old 10-09-2016, 10:34 AM
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Carbon Ceramic Brake Cost/Life???

Found the exact E63 I want but it has Carbon Ceramic Brakes. I do not plan on tracking the car, but I am concerned about how long they will last and the cost of replacement.

Does anyone know the following:
- Price for parts (rotors and pads) ? Are there aftermarket options?
- How long with street use do they last?
- Can the car be converted back to steel / conventional? How much are the components for that? Is there a market for the factory Carbon Brake kit?

I saw someone was quoted as $18k for all four corners service at the dealership. If that is my only option, that makes this car to much of a liability and I will have to pass.
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Not that this will help out. However I have been investigating this answer for a while. We have a 2016 S63 AMG 4matic. From what I have read or found out is that you just hang new pads, then at around 100,000 miles you change out the rotors and pads. We only have around 6,000-7,000 miles so far and the vehicle was just in for service A. I forgot to ask the service writer. We are no where in need of brakes yet.
















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18k sounds like a replacement of the rotors, calipers and pads and labor. The whole kit new is about 10k. If anything you would just have to replace the pads down the road
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Originally Posted by barryrobinson19
Not that this will help out. However I have been investigating this answer for a while. We have a 2016 S63 AMG 4matic. From what I have read or found out is that you just hang new pads, then at around 100,000 miles you change out the rotors and pads. We only have around 6,000-7,000 miles so far and the vehicle was just in for service A. I forgot to ask the service writer. We are no where in need of brakes yet.
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Originally Posted by AG6
18k sounds like a replacement of the rotors, calipers and pads and labor. The whole kit new is about 10k. If anything you would just have to replace the pads down the road
Where can I see a link for the price of a whole kit?
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Front oEM Rotors will cost at least 2000.00 U.S dollars each.
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Originally Posted by nextdoorwarren
Where can I see a link for the price of a whole kit?
Quick search about 11k from Germany. Looks complete with rotors, calipers and pads.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/401187899894
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Wonder if it would be a direct replacement to steel rotors
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Front oEM Rotors will cost at least 2000.00 U.S dollars each.
Is there a place I can order this to see the prices?
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Is there a place I can order this to see the prices?

Here is link to site to price MB parts at a discount.

http://www.mbdirectparts.com/mercede...&position=left
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Originally Posted by nextdoorwarren
Found the exact E63 I want but it has Carbon Ceramic Brakes. I do not plan on tracking the car, but I am concerned about how long they will last and the cost of replacement.

Does anyone know the following:
- Price for parts (rotors and pads) ? Are there aftermarket options?
- How long with street use do they last?
- Can the car be converted back to steel / conventional? How much are the components for that? Is there a market for the factory Carbon Brake kit?

I saw someone was quoted as $18k for all four corners service at the dealership. If that is my only option, that makes this car to much of a liability and I will have to pass.
I saw your other post in a different thread, I feel like I am chasing you around the forum this morning.
I bought my CCB CPO 2012 E63 from Oakland and had them price me the parts for a brake job. I think it was ~11k in just parts (4 rotors and 2 sets of pads).
I track my car every month and the brakes are equal to that of other super cars.

I'd jump on that car, with the warranty and service packages yes the car is a bit higher priced, but the options are nice and you will enjoy the car.

My car has ~60k miles with original rotors and new pads.

If you want to see the full quote for the brakes, let me know and I can dig it up
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My car has ~60k miles with original rotors and new pads.
How often do you change pads?
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How often do you change pads?
Dealer changed them at 48k
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For composite carbon / ceramic rotors you have to weigh them to measure the remaining useful life on them
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Any updates to this thread on costs??

In my frustration of trying to find an E55, i'm looking at E63 and have seena couple with the carbon ceramic brakes and the cost of replacement kind of has me running for the hills on the car. lol
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You can replace with steel rotors. I would not be afraid.
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Do we have a thread or update on the olderish 2014's-15's w212 that have CCB and if they have replaced the rotors?

I was searching and it looks like the cost of MB rotors have gone up in price., I found front and rear rotors for almost 3k each which is mind boggling to me. Especially when you can get a used e63 now in the 40's, but if it has CCB, and 60-70k miles on it, You are going to be the one replacing the rotors... all previous owners didn't incur that expense.

Just seeing any updates from owners that have the CCB option ticked.

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Do we have a thread or update on the olderish 2014's-15's w212 that have CCB and if they have replaced the rotors?

I was searching and it looks like the cost of MB rotors have gone up in price., I found front and rear rotors for almost 3k each which is mind boggling to me. Especially when you can get a used e63 now in the 40's, but if it has CCB, and 60-70k miles on it, You are going to be the one replacing the rotors... all previous owners didn't incur that expense.

Just seeing any updates from owners that have the CCB option ticked.

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I searched on this subject before buying my '14 w/ CCBs and have tried finding info on this subject every time I see someone bumps it. I have yet to find "Steel replacements" for the CC rotors. Someone somewhere had posted a link to steel rotors, but, I remember using the link and finding out said replacement rotors are no longer in production. I think it was "Racing Brake' that was making those rotors. I barely drive my car but I do change wheel/tire set ups from summer to winters every year... just gotta do it with utmost care not to drop a wheel on a rotor and crack it. If it ever came down to having to foot the bill to do complete brake job on this car (should I still wanna keep the car) I'd replace the whole system with the Brembo Gran Turismo (I think that's what's called) BBKs and see about selling those calipers. Maybe someone will make a more affordable replacement in the future... I am at 32K
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I searched on this subject before buying my '14 w/ CCBs and have tried finding info on this subject every time I see someone bumps it. I have yet to find "Steel replacements" for the CC rotors. Someone somewhere had posted a link to steel rotors, but, I remember using the link and finding out said replacement rotors are no longer in production. I think it was "Racing Brake' that was making those rotors. I barely drive my car but I do change wheel/tire set ups from summer to winters every year... just gotta do it with utmost care not to drop a wheel on a rotor and crack it. If it ever came down to having to foot the bill to do complete brake job on this car (should I still wanna keep the car) I'd replace the whole system with the Brembo Gran Turismo (I think that's what's called) BBKs and see about selling those calipers. Maybe someone will make a more affordable replacement in the future... I am at 32K
Girodisk makes a conversion set to steel if you need it. https://www.girodisc.com
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Girodisk makes a conversion set to steel if you need it. https://www.girodisc.com
Did you mean these?

https://www.girodisc.com/Girodisc-2p...m-_p_6514.html

They are too small. CCB Front rotors are 402mm.
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They (steel) should still work, just aren't CCB.

Genuine CCB fronts from ECS is $8k
Genuine CCB rears from ECS is $7250
So $15k+ for rotors alone

Someone can jump on me if I'm wrong but you can throw on steel rotors F&R for ~$1500 for rotors (zimmerman fronts and genuine OE rears) from ECS and just ditch the CCBs. I don't think you'd run into caliper issues either.

I've said it before and I'll say it again... This is not a 911 GT car. It's a 2+ ton super sedan and CCB's are an absolute gimmick and pocket destroyer on this car. Yeah yeah, less brake dust and longer life. Cool. So they last twice as long but cost 10x as much and 99% of people don't track this car or use their brakes to the point CCB's matter. Bottom line, if you haven't bought one yet, avoid CCBs or be ready for a downgrade that you ultimately wont notice.

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Originally Posted by Rehabguy
Did you mean these?

https://www.girodisc.com/Girodisc-2p...m-_p_6514.html

They are too small. CCB Front rotors are 402mm.
They don’t have them on their site but I called and talked to them a while back and they have a steel set in the correct diameter for the conversion. Not sure why it’s not posted online...
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Originally Posted by CarHopper
They (steel) should still work, just aren't CCB.

Genuine CCB fronts from ECS is $8k
Genuine CCB rears from ECS is $7250
So $15k+ for rotors alone

Someone can jump on me if I'm wrong but you can throw on steel rotors F&R for ~$1500 for rotors (zimmerman fronts and genuine OE rears) from ECS and just ditch the CCBs. I don't think you'd run into caliper issues either.

I've said it before and I'll say it again... This is not a 911 GT car. It's a 2+ ton super sedan and CCB's are an absolute gimmick and pocket destroyer on this car. Yeah yeah, less brake dust and longer life. Cool. So they last twice as long but cost 10x as much and 99% of people don't track this car or use their brakes to the point CCB's matter. Bottom line, if you haven't bought one yet, avoid CCBs or be ready for a downgrade that you ultimately wont notice.
I hear what you are saying in terms of cost. I am sure Steel rotors would work just fine in the CCB system. I would even go out on a limb and roll the dice on a set that is 395mm... but 360mm? That's about 1.5" smaller. No thanks (for me... everyone else can do whatever they want)
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They don’t have them on their site but I called and talked to them a while back and they have a steel set in the correct diameter for the conversion. Not sure why it’s not posted online...
Thanks for that info! I do believe they had announced it was an up and coming product.


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