Need Advice on Adding More Power to HPS SC
Bad tuning, high air temperatures, extended period of high loads equals damaged or even destroyed engine.
This is exactly what happened to Lihn's CL55.
Are you trying to see if laws of physics do not apply to your car?
This experiment is going to cost you over $25,000, besides depreciation of your C55.
I can not even wish you any luck, because this is going be a definitive event. Sort of like banging ones head against cement wall and expecting the wall to crumble.
Bad tuning, high air temperatures, extended period of high loads equals damaged or even destroyed engine.
This is exactly what happened to Lihn's CL55.
Are you trying to see if laws of physics do not apply to your car?
This experiment is going to cost you over $25,000, besides depreciation of your C55.
I can not even wish you any luck, because this is going be a definitive event. Sort of like banging ones head against cement wall and expecting the wall to crumble.
I envy you sir you got major *****
In the end I hate to be the benefactor of your decision to destroy your engine.
Secondly the organizer who said he ordered my helmet told me that he forgot my size and did not order it!
So I had to bum a helmet off a friend just to ride with the instructor for a few laps in a SC'd Mustang. I almost threw up because the car was going sideways most of the time skidding on almost every turn.
Then my friend took me on a few laps in my own car and it handled much better than the instructor's Mustang. On the straights it blew past almost everything on the course . There were 2 NASCAR cars, 2 Indy type Car, 2 modified Vipers, 1 Ferrari, 1 Ford GT, 1 Porshe GT3, several Porshe 997's, Boxters, 1 E55, 2 C55(including mine), 2 M3s 1 C32, 1 S4 and quite a few Vettes, Zs, G35s, Lancer EVOs, WRX-STIs and Mustangs.
When I finally got a chance to drive my own car after waiting forever on an available helmet I lined up with the advanced drivers and had to pull off at the last second because I had the wrong colored-bracelet.
On top of that, I did'nt tape up the front of my car like everybody else because I arrived late and ended up with a massive chip on front hood!!! I wished I would have installed the CLEAR BRA shortly after I bought the car.
Next time, I'll be better prepared. I just ordered an awesome Carbon Fiber Helmet, Hi-temp brake pads and will modify my suspension, tires and install the Quaife LSD before I hit the track again in August or September. I will probably also install the headers and exhaust because the louder sound draws everybody's attention as the cars go by!
Secondly the organizer who said he ordered my helmet told me that he forgot my size and did not order it!
So I had to bum a helmet off a friend just to ride with the instructor for a few laps in a SC'd Mustang. I almost threw up because the car was going sideways most of the time skidding on almost every turn.
Then my friend took me on a few laps in my own car and it handled much better than the instructor's Mustang. On the straights it blew past almost everything on the course . There were 2 NASCAR cars, 2 Indy type Car, 2 modified Vipers, 1 Ferrari, 1 Ford GT, 1 Porshe GT3, several Porshe 997's, Boxters, 1 E55, 2 C55(including mine), 2 M3s 1 C32, 1 S4 and quite a few Vettes, Zs, G35s, Lancer EVOs, WRX-STIs and Mustangs.
When I finally got a chance to drive my own car after waiting forever on an available helmet I lined up with the advanced drivers and had to pull off at the last second because I had the wrong colored-bracelet.
On top of that, I did'nt tape up the front of my car like everybody else because I arrived late and ended up with a massive chip on front hood!!! I wished I would have installed the CLEAR BRA shortly after I bought the car.
Next time, I'll be better prepared. I just ordered an awesome Carbon Fiber Helmet, Hi-temp brake pads and will modify my suspension, tires and install the Quaife LSD before I hit the track again in August or September. I will probably also install the headers and exhaust because the louder sound draws everybody's attention as the cars go by!
A Chip on the hood??? Oh come on now theC32 has 10,000 of those!! We will one up your stone chip with a cracked windshiend from wednesdays track
event. But we also ran the car in over 6 sessions and wore through two front tires (down to the cords on both)
The C32 worked PERFECTLY. THe newly revised intercooling system lowered out intake temps by over 70 degrees. We had no issues with DME shutting the blower off like before due to excessive intake temps etc.
The quaife worked flawlessly and made the car far more controlled. That was the first time we really had time to enjoy the LSD and I can say the W203 AMG cars should ALL have an LSD. The car now just claws out of corners and I no longer fight to stay on the tail of 996 turbos!
We were able to hit 132-133 on the front straight before needing to hit the brakes and that is a great figure. Brandon said the HPS car was only getting to 125 or 127.
Wish I had had a second to take a spin in your car. Would have loved to plug my data logger into your car and see how it does with intake temps etc.
Next time register with Open Track Racing and save yourself half the cost. They have events every 6 weeks during the non peak heat months and they only cost $145. The drivers in that group are very skilled and I have never felt at danger with them a foot from my bumper (in the advanced group). Some of the 996 drivers with speed gallery were down right hazardous. The silver Turbo driver was insane I think. I have never seen such hazardous behavior. You NEVER nail the brakes in the middle of a corner when you have a train of 5 cars stacked up behind you trying to get a point by. And to think he watned to keep us all behind him. A C180 could have gone faster than that 996 TT!
Lets hit the track again soon!
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
Glad nothing happened.
Mario
Bad tuning, high air temperatures, extended period of high loads equals damaged or even destroyed engine.
This is exactly what happened to Lihn's CL55.
Are you trying to see if laws of physics do not apply to your car?
This experiment is going to cost you over $25,000, besides depreciation of your C55.
I can not even wish you any luck, because this is going be a definitive event. Sort of like banging ones head against cement wall and expecting the wall to crumble.
The C55 made it through the day but I can say he was not driving it like he stole it. He was moving but its not as if he was tracking it for an hour straight at 100% max.
There was a Black E55 there too. I wanted to see how the C32 did against that car on the straights but he was in the yellow group (slowest group). There were 60 cars in the first yellow session of the day. It was like watching the 405 freeway driving around the big track at will. Priceless!
Now had Steve and I been driving the C55k in question. That motor might have been at the service center about now!
God, I missed getting on the track.
Once I get a bit settled in at MBLN, I will get back out.
Last edited by Vadim @ FD; Jun 22, 2006 at 08:01 PM.
Carvin, Can you tell me where I can get the cooling upgrades AND the Quaife? As for the Headers and Exhaust. What shop can install High-Flow cats legally? I've heard that headers don't add that much power unless you replace the cats.
After I upgrade the cooling with your sugggestions, then I would like you to test drive my car at the next track event and give me your honest feedback on the power and speed. So far I have not had any competition on the streets.
It looks like I'm going to be one big tracking fool from now on!
Glad nothing happened.
Mario
It is possible to install a complete 2003 E55 kompressor engine in my car with no problem what so ever? I found a complete engine with factory supercharger for $12K. The only problem i can think of, are the ABC pump. I don't know if it can re-mount back onto the E55 engine. Could it be mount onto the same location as the E55 suspension air pump?
Last edited by Clk&Slk; Jun 23, 2006 at 12:52 AM.
Some of the 996 drivers with speed gallery were down right hazardous. The silver Turbo driver was insane I think. I have never seen such hazardous behavior. You NEVER nail the brakes in the middle of a corner when you have a train of 5 cars stacked up behind you trying to get a point by. And to think he watned to keep us all behind him. A C180 could have gone faster than that 996 TT!
Whatdya say there speed racer
It is possible to install a complete 2003 E55 kompressor engine in my car with no problem what so ever? I found a complete engine with factory supercharger for $12K. The only problem i can think of, are the ABC pump. I don't know if it can re-mount back onto the E55 engine. Could it be mount onto the same location as the E55 suspension air pump?
Hey Linh! looks like your going down the same route I almost did before I unloaded my bucket, Albeit a much better engine w/komp keep us posted sounds kool man!!
Kalo normally just drives other peoples cars at the track. He used to have a Vipper Comp coupe but I think he ended up selling it. Hes "between track ******" right now
. Sign up with OTR next time they have a track day and you wont be angry. You have to get your own brain bucket but thats something you will use for many years to come so not to worry.
Those engines are the shi*t
Whatdya say there speed racer

Last edited by AMGSC; Jun 23, 2006 at 12:33 PM.
It is possible to install a complete 2003 E55 kompressor engine in my car with no problem what so ever? I found a complete engine with factory supercharger for $12K. The only problem i can think of, are the ABC pump. I don't know if it can re-mount back onto the E55 engine. Could it be mount onto the same location as the E55 suspension air pump?



