C32 AMG, C55 AMG (W203) 2001 - 2007

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Old May 9, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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I think that I'm going to need a new ECU tune for the cams. Too bad powerchip sucks, I gotta throw that code away. I'm waiting to hear back from Kleeman.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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Ok, my new headers should ship today via overnight. I'm dropping the car off this evening.

My shop actually has the Autologic for Mercedes software, so they can raise my idle. I'll see if that does the trick. If not, Kleeman here I come.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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Ok, headers are back on the car (thanks evo).

The car feels like it pulls harder with the cams, but it is still too early to know exactly what they did. The car needs to be retuned. It is running too rich. I'm going to get a Kleeman ECU tune very soon.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jgsx
Ok, headers are back on the car (thanks evo).

The car feels like it pulls harder with the cams, but it is still too early to know exactly what they did. The car needs to be retuned. It is running too rich. I'm going to get a Kleeman ECU tune very soon.
are you going to dyno it like it sits right now to see what you have gained?

it would be nice to see what just cams will do to the car before you have it tuned again...
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Old May 13, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 1FASTC32
are you going to dyno it like it sits right now to see what you have gained?

it would be nice to see what just cams will do to the car before you have it tuned again...
Yup, I'm doing a dyno right before to give the AFR data to Kleeman. It is the same dyno where I did my last pull, so it will be useful data.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jgsx
Yup, I'm doing a dyno right before to give the AFR data to Kleeman. It is the same dyno where I did my last pull, so it will be useful data.
good deal! when are you going to do it?
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Old May 13, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 1FASTC32
good deal! when are you going to do it?
I'm waiting on a few other things to arrive (Renntech springs and evo reservoir). Once those arrive I'll do it all at once.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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Update from Schrick...

I got the following email from Schrick this morning.

Hello Jerry,

Your camshafts were measured and indeed we found on one camshaft base circle deviations which were not corresponding to our specifications.
The new production will be ready in the next week and we'll ship a new set to you immediately.

Once these are installed and the car runs satisfying we'll discuss how we may compensate the extra labour you had with these.

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Old May 14, 2007 | 09:11 AM
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LOL....at least they didn't shaft me.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 09:17 AM
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That's good news Jerry.

I wish I could say more, but the car definitely pulls harder than ever with the cams. I can't wait until I'm tuned.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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Another Update

Well, I decided to ask Schrick for a second set of cams for free. I was expecting them to say no, but they didn't. This means that I can sell them to someone on here and get back most of my money that I spent on the extra labor.

So, I have an extra set of cams being shipped if anyone is looking. The cost for these will be $1500 shipped.

First come first serve.

Here is the link to them in the classifieds.

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...08#post2204708
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Old May 14, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by AMG-Jerry
Well, I decided to ask Schrick for a second set of cams for free. I was expecting them to say no, but they didn't. This means that I can sell them to someone on here and get back most of my money that I spent on the extra labor.

So, I have an extra set of cams being shipped if anyone is looking. The cost for these will be $1500 shipped.

First come first serve.

Here is the link to them in the classifieds.

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...08#post2204708

maybe i should cancel my order and buy these...
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Old May 14, 2007 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by AMG-Jerry
I got the following email from Schrick this morning.

Hello Jerry,

Your camshafts were measured and indeed we found on one camshaft base circle deviations which were not corresponding to our specifications.
The new production will be ready in the next week and we'll ship a new set to you immediately.

Once these are installed and the car runs satisfying we'll discuss how we may compensate the extra labour you had with these.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen/
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Glad to hear they're willing to CORRECT their mistake. These cams should be MEASURED and fully EXAMINED before they ship it out.

By the way, did you ever get a dyno with just the polished heads???
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Old May 14, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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yeah, you need to dyno the car as it sits...i am curious what the heads are doing for you right now...

you and joe should get together and race...heads vs. cams
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Old May 14, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 1FASTC32
yeah, you need to dyno the car as it sits...i am curious what the heads are doing for you right now...

you and joe should get together and race...heads vs. cams

I know, but in order for me to make any power, I will need to send my ecu back...again.


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By the way, did you ever get a dyno with just the polished heads???
Yes, I did a few pulls on a Dyno Dynamics dyno that Joe uses and I'm -30WHP under Joe (before cams). My A/F ratio was 10 through the powerband which is why my power was so low. I have always fought with the car running lean, so this is new to me.

I have not had a chance to take the car to GRD, which is where I normally do pulls. At this point, I really don't see a need to go. The car is not making the power it should be making because of my tune.

I will do another few pulls after the cams are in and the car has time to adjust. We should be able to use Joe's before and after dyno, and my before and after dyno to tells us about what each mod is good for.

I can tell you that my Trq. curve is much better now and I'm making more power earlier and holding on to it longer, which I'm very happy with.

Joe - If you have some time this weekend and want to make a few runs, let me know. Neither car is running @ 100%, so it might be a good time to do first round runs. After both cars are back to 100%, we can do it again. Did you dyno the car with the cams yet? I'm assuming you did because you sent your A/F ratio to Kleeman. Did you lose power because of your tune?
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Old May 14, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 1FASTC32
maybe i should cancel my order and buy these...

Humm...
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Old May 14, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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Jerry

No I have not dynoed my car with the cams yet. I wanted to drive the car for a bit to let it adjust first.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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How much for labor to install these famous cams?

Does the ECU need to be reflash?
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Old May 14, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ///AMG4EVER
How much for labor to install these famous cams?

Does the ECU need to be reflash?

i think someone has been bitten by the performance bug...

yes, the ECU will need to be reflashed after you install, and Sunil could install these for you...just PM him
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I gotta stop checking out the forum... seriously. You guys are killing me.

I talked to Sunil on Saturday and he was like: hey man! I'm putting together a Kleemann headers GB... are you in!?

My respond was: hey why not.

And now this...
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Originally Posted by ///AMG4EVER
I gotta stop checking out the forum... seriously. You guys are killing me.

I talked to Sunil on Saturday and he was like: hey man! I'm putting together a Kleemann headers GB... are you in!?

My respond was: hey why not.

And now this...

nice!
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Originally Posted by ///AMG4EVER
I gotta stop checking out the forum... seriously. You guys are killing me.

I talked to Sunil on Saturday and he was like: hey man! I'm putting together a Kleemann headers GB... are you in!?

My respond was: hey why not.

And now this...

These cams will complement those headers!
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Old May 14, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by AMG-Jerry
These cams will complement those headers!
Yes! and these headers will compliment your cams...

you should really consider picking up a set...
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Originally Posted by 1FASTC32
Yes! and these headers will compliment your cams...

you should really consider picking up a set...

PM me with the price. When will they be ready?
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Old May 14, 2007 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AMG-Jerry
PM me with the price. When will they be ready?
i don't know...i will find out
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