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Old May 14, 2007 | 06:46 PM
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That's good news Jerry.

I wish I could say more, but the car definitely pulls harder than ever with the cams. I can't wait until I'm tuned.
Question for you.

In an earlier post you said the car felt slower with the cams as compared to having the headers. Are you saying that the car now feels faster? How is the car running now that the ECU has had a chance to adapt?
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Old May 14, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 430
Question for you.

In an earlier post you said the car felt slower with the cams as compared to having the headers. Are you saying that the car now feels faster? How is the car running now that the ECU has had a chance to adapt?
My car feels faster than ever because I put headers back on the car.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jgsx
My car feels faster than ever because I put headers back on the car.
Ahhhh. Did not catch that the headers were reinstalled.

How is the ECU doing?

When is the dyno run?
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Old May 14, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 430
Ahhhh. Did not catch that the headers were reinstalled.

How is the ECU doing?

When is the dyno run?
The ECU is not happy. It keeps saying too rich. I'm not sure when I'm going to dyno -- either this week or next.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 08:18 AM
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Ok, the car is back in the shop today. I'm finally ditching Powerchip and going with a competent tuner (Kleeman).

Wish me luck.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by jgsx
Ok, the car is back in the shop today. I'm finally ditching Powerchip and going with a competent tuner (Kleeman).

Wish me luck.

What's the ETA on the updated ECU?
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Old May 16, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by AMG-Jerry
What's the ETA on the updated ECU?
I'm not sure, if my ECU ships to Kleeman today I might have it back by Friday. If it it goes out tomorrow, I'm looking at next week. I'll know this evening.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jgsx
Ok, the car is back in the shop today. I'm finally ditching Powerchip and going with a competent tuner (Kleeman).

Wish me luck.
what were your A/F ratio?
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Old May 16, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 1FASTC32
what were your A/F ratio?
I'll have some actual numbers for you when I do my pretune dyno pull today or tomorrow. I know that I'm running very rich (at least in CL mode). My mpg dropped from 19.5-20.0 to 14.5-15.0, and OBDII keep *****ing about running too rich.
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I'll have some actual numbers for you when I do my pretune dyno pull today or tomorrow. I know that I'm running very rich (at least in CL mode). My mpg dropped from 19.5-20.0 to 14.5-15.0, and OBDII keep *****ing about running too rich.
sounds good...
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Old May 17, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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Well Erick

It turns out that Kleeman did not need an initial AFR, so we didn't run on the dyno. They have a base map for my mods that should be pretty close. I should have the ECU back tomorrow. I'll hit the dyno and then have Kleeman do another tweak.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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Well Erick

It turns out that Kleeman did not need an initial AFR, so we didn't run on the dyno. They have a base map for my mods that should be pretty close. I should have the ECU back tomorrow. I'll hit the dyno and then have Kleeman do another tweak.
cool, thanks for the update...let me know how the car feels when you get it back...
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Old May 21, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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Update: 3rd Dyno

I have my last Dyno run before the cams go in scheduled for Thursday. I have had 2 other appointments since I got the car back and the numbers keep rising. The car now gets 18.5 - 19 MPG, which is up from 10 MPG.

All I care about at this point is the A/F ratio. First Dyno run was in the 10's, second run (different dyno) was in the low 11's. I was getting about 16 - 17 MPG that day.
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Old May 21, 2007 | 02:04 PM
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Well, as a teaser, yes, the cams provided nice gains in hp and torque across the entire band. All that I will say for now is that it was more than 10whp and 10wtq. I am having issues with part throttle tuning and I'm still working that out. I'll provide more data when I have it.
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Originally Posted by jgsx
Well, as a teaser, yes, the cams provided nice gains in hp and torque across the entire band. All that I will say for now is that it was more than 10whp and 10wtq. I am having issues with part throttle tuning and I'm still working that out. I'll provide more data when I have it.
On a dyno dynamics dyno at that!
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Old May 23, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jgsx
Well, as a teaser, yes, the cams provided nice gains in hp and torque across the entire band. All that I will say for now is that it was more than 10whp and 10wtq. I am having issues with part throttle tuning and I'm still working that out. I'll provide more data when I have it.
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On a dyno dynamics dyno at that!
Common guys, no teasers.... Some of us can't wait for the results...

Jerry, any updates on your car yet?
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Old May 23, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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I'll have a new ECU software version in the car on Friday. . . more info after that
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Old May 23, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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Jerry, any updates on your car yet?
My cams will ship in the next couple of days...if they haven't already.
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Originally Posted by AMG-Jerry
My cams will ship in the next couple of days...if they haven't already.
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Originally Posted by 1FASTC32
Tell me about it, I'm sure Joe has been driving around with a woody the size of a pine tree.
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Old May 23, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AMG-Jerry
Tell me about it, I'm sure Joe has been driving around with a woody the size of a pine tree.
LOL, the car's ***** got bigger, that's for sure.
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New Cams have Arrived

OK, I got both new sets of cams sitting in my office. They just arrived and I'm working on getting them installed.

If anyone is thinking about jumping on these, now is the time. I know there are a few people that were thinking about it.

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Old May 24, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AMG-Jerry
OK, I got both new sets of cams sitting in my office. They just arrived and I'm working on getting them installed.

If anyone is thinking about jumping on these, now is the time. I know there are a few people that were thinking about it.

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Nice !!!!!!!
Let me guess ... hmmmm... work..... go to the shop to install new cams......

screw work .... cams here we go !!!!!!!!!!!

Hope this time will work
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Old May 26, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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Ok, I got the new Kleeman software in my car and it solved my part throttle issues. The car ROCKS now.

Last time I was on the dyno I gained 14-16whp across the board and over 10wftlbs across the board. That was with ZERO ECU adaptation time and the measurements were taken on a Dyno Dynamics dyno. I don't have the dyno sheets yet. Remember, this was for cams only on a S2 car. I did not port my heads.

I'm going to let the ECU adapt for a while, then hit the dyno again.
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