Evosport Stage 2 C32 AMG vs Bone Stock Magnum SRT-8 (Video)
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I have to pass through Auburn Hills, MI., home of Chrysler World Headquarters, on a daily basis. There are tons of those cars around here - even the cops have Charger R/Ts. When I was driving my Stage 2+ C32, I was challenged regularly by SRT vehicles including SRT-4 (Neon), SRT-6 (Crossfire) and SRT-8 (Charger & 300C) in both stock and modded form. On numerous occasions, I walked stock SRT-8 cars, though it was no walk in the park to do so. Sometimes build variations do result in a hotter stock car - perhaps Maggie's was one of them.
By the way, the Crossfire drivers around here are the cocky ones for some reason. I'm not kidding - they drive like a$$holes and I surprised them whenever we tangled!
By the way, the Crossfire drivers around here are the cocky ones for some reason. I'm not kidding - they drive like a$$holes and I surprised them whenever we tangled!
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Kind of funny to refer to it this way. It's just two dorks on a dark stretch of road pushing the gas pedal to the floor!
It's also possible that the speed they ran put the C32 in a bad gear. Also, it's not heat soak if they were running at speed. When I ran behind and kept pace with the SRT8, it was at a race track on a sunny, warm day.
It's also possible that the speed they ran put the C32 in a bad gear. Also, it's not heat soak if they were running at speed. When I ran behind and kept pace with the SRT8, it was at a race track on a sunny, warm day.
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Hey marc:
I don't know what happened in that race, but my brother and his friend have two Chrysler 300's SRT's and I beat them both by about 1-2 car lengths in the quarter. According to Chrysler, the Charger is SLOWER than the 300, don't undserstand that either since they are the same motor, and the charger is lighter, slightly.
Anyway, my BONE stock C32 is the clear winner
Don't be afriad and try them from a Dead stop, remember they are HEAVY
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I don't know what happened in that race, but my brother and his friend have two Chrysler 300's SRT's and I beat them both by about 1-2 car lengths in the quarter. According to Chrysler, the Charger is SLOWER than the 300, don't undserstand that either since they are the same motor, and the charger is lighter, slightly.
Anyway, my BONE stock C32 is the clear winner
Don't be afriad and try them from a Dead stop, remember they are HEAVY
See yeah
http://www.titsup-racing.com/video/m...e_0-60runs.wmv
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There's something wrong with that C32! With those mods it's slow as hell. My car runs neck and neck with my friends modded 300CSRT8(headers,full exh,cai,modded ECU,380whp & 370wtq in 3rd gear mustang dyno) which is also much lighter than the Magnum to stratosheric speeds. He has run a best 1/4 mile at E-town of 12.6@ 111mph. So this does not make sense. I could only imagine what my car would do to a stck SRT8.
Oh I'd like to add that I had two V8 RS4's and a W209 CLK 55 for dinner one night doing slow rolls and dead stop starts to stratospheric speeds.
My mods are listed below.
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just with pullies alone it will be able to keep the SRT-8 dead even
with headers it will walk it.
is this SRT-8 stock? we need proof.
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Sorry if I offended. I was taking the opportunity to poke some fun at those ridiculous dark, shakey, rolling-start "races" which are anything but races.
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They probably can't drive. I think I'd destroy a stock C32 AMG from a dig. I am doing 0-60 in 4.5 seconds. Link:
http://www.titsup-racing.com/video/m...e_0-60runs.wmv
http://www.titsup-racing.com/video/m...e_0-60runs.wmv
unless you have mods.. you are being too optimistic based on a home video.
Provide magazine test documents with real calibrated instruments not (g-tech or cam corder frame times)
destroy is a strong word my friend.. do you realize how close 2 cars running 4.5 or 4.9 (0 to 60) seconds are???
you won the race on a poor performing C32 with mods.. good job!
I'll give you an example.. if you blink too late
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Yes, it's "factory stock" with 3K miles on it. I'm the owner of it. I have no reason to try to deceive people on this forum. Look at how long I've been registered here. I myself had a 32AMG which with drag radials and pullies went 12.7@108. The C32 AMG is a heavier car. And let's not forget a few guys on the SRT-8 forums are trapping 110+ in bone stock Magnum SRT-8s...
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Yes, that is what runs on a flat stretch of road. I even do it in both directions.
ZERO mods. Not even an aftermarket filter. I don't need home video to know the outcome of the race because I was there myself in the flesh.
The built in 0-60 timer is extremely accurate. There have been lengthy technical discussions about it with the SRT engineers on the SRT forums.
But OK, here's a "magazine test document" showing 0-60 in 4.7 seconds for a 300C SRT-8.
http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtest...rt8-page4.html
I'm sure with more practice and cooler air, the staff @ C&D could have gotten a 4.5. Either way, it doesn't make my 4.5 look like it's out of the realm of possibilities.
When I was talking about running from a dig, I was referring to a standing 1/4 mile race. So the gap between Maggie and the C32 would be a lot wider in the 1/4 mile than just 0-60.
Poor performing? No way. I really doubt that there's anything wrong with his car.
Why does everyone who always talks **** on these threads have to live 3,000 miles away? 
Originally Posted by TopGun32
unless you have mods.. you are being too optimistic based on a home video.
Originally Posted by TopGun32
Provide magazine test documents with real calibrated instruments not (g-tech or cam corder frame times)
But OK, here's a "magazine test document" showing 0-60 in 4.7 seconds for a 300C SRT-8.
http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtest...rt8-page4.html
I'm sure with more practice and cooler air, the staff @ C&D could have gotten a 4.5. Either way, it doesn't make my 4.5 look like it's out of the realm of possibilities.
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destroy is a strong word my friend.. do you realize how close 2 cars running 4.5 or 4.9 (0 to 60) seconds are???
Originally Posted by TopGun32
you won the race on a poor performing C32 with mods.. good job!
Originally Posted by TopGun32
I'll give you an example.. if you blink too late
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Here's an instructive sequence of pictures.
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TWO:
I'm just poking fun here. I was riding the guy's but on the turns, but could not gain ground on the straights. And his SRT8 was modified.
ONE:
TWO:
I'm just poking fun here. I was riding the guy's but on the turns, but could not gain ground on the straights. And his SRT8 was modified.
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Yes, it's "factory stock" with 3K miles on it. I'm the owner of it. I have no reason to try to deceive people on this forum. Look at how long I've been registered here. I myself had a 32AMG which with drag radials and pullies went 12.7@108. The C32 AMG is a heavier car. And let's not forget a few guys on the SRT-8 forums are trapping 110+ in bone stock Magnum SRT-8s...
Here's a magnum SRT-8 with a 0-60 counter (which i think i s cool)
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/.../photo_08.html
Also on the same page is the car's weight. A c32 with four people would still weigh less than a SRT-8 Magnum. Dont be surprised by some of our comments as for you to do a full second better than everyone else is sure to raise some eyebrows.
Don't take our comments the wrong way, it's just a forum and it's all good fun.
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Come on, we both know road racing is heavily dependent upon driver skill. I've passed exotics in my '98 Neon ACR Coupe on tracks like Lime Rock and Summit Point. Does it mean my Neon is faster than them in a straight line on the street? Of course not (unless they're REALLY ****ty drivers).
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I'm not a drag guy, nor do I rattle off quarter mile times as if I published HOt Rod magazine, but there is no way ur car is doing mid 4's. Are you sure it isnt KM. Are u in canada by any chance?
Here's a magnum SRT-8 with a 0-60 counter (which i think i s cool)
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/.../photo_08.html
Also on the same page is the car's weight. A c32 with four people would still weigh less than a SRT-8 Magnum. Dont be surprised by some of our comments as for you to do a full second better than everyone else is sure to raise some eyebrows.
Don't take our comments the wrong way, it's just a forum and it's all good fun.
Here's a magnum SRT-8 with a 0-60 counter (which i think i s cool)
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/.../photo_08.html
Also on the same page is the car's weight. A c32 with four people would still weigh less than a SRT-8 Magnum. Dont be surprised by some of our comments as for you to do a full second better than everyone else is sure to raise some eyebrows.
Don't take our comments the wrong way, it's just a forum and it's all good fun.
I guess Motor Trend hasn't perfected the launch like I have. When I first got the car, I was only getting 4.8 to 5.0 0-60. With lots of practice, I've figured out precisely how to get the best possible 0-60 time. It's a lot of fun and it's pretty cool having the timer integrated in the instrument cluster like that.
In addition the C&D article I dug up with the 4.7 0-60 time, I can also link you to several threads about the 0-60 times guys are seeing with their SRT-8s:
http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/...ad.php?t=35163
http://www.srt8oc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7290
http://www.srt8oc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6712
If anybody in the tri-state area has a C32 AMG that they'd like to try out against my SRT-8, I'd be happy to run them. I honestly don't think any C32 AMGs with similar mods as the one I raced the other night will be able to beat me. I'm talking about mods like chip, pulleys, headers, etc.
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Yeah, that's why I said the car was sitting in the parking lot for 45 minutes. Remember we were bull****ting for a few minutes after you raced the Evo and I also had to go and get Maggie.
Let me know if you still want the complete SL55 intake.
Let me know if you still want the complete SL55 intake.
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02 C32 AMG sold!
Damn I knew I should have said I was watching you guys
from the helicopter or something.
Wasn't this C32 was for sale originally from Michigan? That's
why I said damn no plate, I thought it was this guy who bought
it because of the mods, not all C32's are modified like his.
Hope you're enjoying it!
from the helicopter or something.
Wasn't this C32 was for sale originally from Michigan? That's
why I said damn no plate, I thought it was this guy who bought
it because of the mods, not all C32's are modified like his.
Hope you're enjoying it!
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Damn I knew I should have said I was watching you guys
from the helicopter or something.
Wasn't this C32 was for sale originally from Michigan? That's
why I said damn no plate, I thought it was this guy who bought
it because of the mods, not all C32's are modified like his.
Hope you're enjoying it!
from the helicopter or something.
Wasn't this C32 was for sale originally from Michigan? That's
why I said damn no plate, I thought it was this guy who bought
it because of the mods, not all C32's are modified like his.
Hope you're enjoying it!
https://mbworld.org/forums/classifieds/201216-fs-stage-ii-2002-c32-amg-super-clean-stock-parts-included-all-tsbs-addressed.html
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A very good friend of mine has one and from a standing start or roll I can beat him. Especially the standing start. The Magnum SRT-8 is to be respected, but no match for lighter weight, higher torque and equal hp on mine. Same result with the Jeep SRT-8.
I am not saying it didn't happen, but it would be a very different outcome if it were mine.
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They probably can't drive. I think I'd destroy a stock C32 AMG from a dig. I am doing 0-60 in 4.5 seconds. Link:
http://www.titsup-racing.com/video/m...e_0-60runs.wmv
http://www.titsup-racing.com/video/m...e_0-60runs.wmv
Take a look at this
www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives
http://www.allpar.com/cars/lx/srt8-chrysler.html
Chrsyler says the 300 SRT weighs 4200, C32 3400, thats 800 lbs
Furthermore the Charger weighs in at around 4000, and CHRSLET rates this slower, for some reason
Bottom line these are fast cars, but guess what, I still beat them
FYI, my brother road races with me, and has numerous trips at our local drag Keystone, so NO it wasn't the driver.
on ANY given day, any car can beat another in a street race, ie who gets the jump first, differnet tires, etc.
But your 4.5: with street tires I call bs:
Good luck, and if you are around Pittsburgh, LETS PLAY
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Something is up..either that 32 doesn't have the mods it thinks or it had absolute heat soak going on. I'm for the most part stock and have burned between lights and onramps with several SRT 8, both 300 and Charger. From a high speed roll it's close until high triple digits where the 32 slowly pulls. From a dig is always 32 by at least half a length. This is in MS where it's hot and humid as hell in stop and go traffic with AC cranked, ie I'm always running WAY hot and never lost.
Stage 2 should kill that thing. Post pics of your 4.5 0-60 time along with your 3200 miles on the dash.
You also seem confused about the weights. The 32 (as pointed out several times above) is much lighter. Power to weight...
No way you're running a true 4.5 0-60 stock and no way a "properly" setup stage 2 C32 would get burned that bad, if at all, by a stock SRT8. Just sayin..
Stage 2 should kill that thing. Post pics of your 4.5 0-60 time along with your 3200 miles on the dash.
You also seem confused about the weights. The 32 (as pointed out several times above) is much lighter. Power to weight...
No way you're running a true 4.5 0-60 stock and no way a "properly" setup stage 2 C32 would get burned that bad, if at all, by a stock SRT8. Just sayin..
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