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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 01:42 AM
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Transmission is shifting strange

It only does it between 25-40 mph. Here's how to reproduce it:

Say i'm cruising at a speed ranging from 25-40mph with the engine at about 1500rpm. If I give it throttle, say 30%, the RPMs climb from 1500rpm to 2000rpm where it will abruptly and roughly shift into the next gear down to 1700rpm. The shift is not smooth and jerks the car, annoying. I believe this is the 3rd gear to 4th gear shift.

All of the other shifts are flawless.

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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 11:35 AM
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Do I need to post a video or is the text clear enough?
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 11:47 AM
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 05:59 PM
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what radiator do you have? have you had a glycol contamination test recently? i know there was a shift problem for people but it was at 1500 between 1st and 2nd and i thought it was related to glycol contamination.
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jturkel
what radiator do you have? have you had a glycol contamination test recently? i know there was a shift problem for people but it was at 1500 between 1st and 2nd and i thought it was related to glycol contamination.
I have the original valeo radiator

I did have a test done on the ATF by blackstone labs - they did not find glycol.

the ATF has 60k miles on it, so I will be replacing it with fresh ATF shortly and i'm putting in a behr radiator for prophylaxis
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 06:22 PM
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I have the original valeo radiator

I did have a test done on the ATF by blackstone labs - they did not find glycol.

the ATF has 60k miles on it, so I will be replacing it with fresh ATF shortly and i'm putting in a behr radiator for prophylaxis
hmm...do a search about slow or jerky or rough transmission shifts. i remember reading years ago tons of threads about it. maybe those will help out.
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jturkel
hmm...do a search about slow or jerky or rough transmission shifts. i remember reading years ago tons of threads about it. maybe those will help out.
I have, but none of them seem to be like my issue
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 10:58 PM
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i would check your transmission fluid level. Transmissions are very sensitive to fluid levels
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TemjinX2
i would check your transmission fluid level. Transmissions are very sensitive to fluid levels
Already checked with the dipstick tool. Drove for 20 mins to get the fluid up to temp and its at full.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 12:18 AM
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Mine does the same and I blame it on my driving style and a transmission program that doesn't suit it.

The car seem to hold a gear (A little bit like engine braking) when you go in to a corner and then changes up when you put a little power on. It is not smooth at all.

It's almost like the car expectes you to bury the pedal coming out of every corner and punishes you for not doing it.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by lukep6470
Mine does the same and I blame it on my driving style and a transmission program that doesn't suit it.

The car seem to hold a gear (A little bit like engine braking) when you go in to a corner and then changes up when you put a little power on. It is not smooth at all.

It's almost like the car expectes you to bury the pedal coming out of every corner and punishes you for not doing it.
It's almost like it free revs from 1500 to 2000rpm where it will then abruptly shift, right?
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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Here's my perception in other automatic cars, such as our Lexus GS430. When cruising at low speed and giving it light throttle 30% (so the car does not have to shift) the RPM's will freely climb from 1500rpm to 2000rpm and the RPMs will stay at 2000 for a couple seconds while the car is accelerating, and then after that acceleration while the RPMs are locked in at 2000 the RPMs will climb proportionally with the speedo. Why does the C32 not do this?

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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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Search "tranny jerk" or "1500 rpm jerk" and you will find countless posts about this well known issue.
After a new radiator, rebuilt tranny top to bottom TWICE (warranty) new TCU and god only knows what else, I still have the "jerk" and like many others, have learned to live with it.
The ECU reset trick (also search) has proven to be the most effective way around this, although it's only a temp fix. The issue seems to be with the tq converter and/or the way the adaptive tranny learns, so I'm told by the "pros" anyway.
I didn't read this entire thread since it's been beaten to death, but if I'm just repeating what's already been said, I apologize.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 02:00 PM
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PS, your issue most likely isn't 3rd to 4th if you're going that slow. Manually shift the car and see if you can reproduce. Mine is retarded in 1st and 2nd in low rpms, very jerky and the tq converter lockup feels like a shift but it's not. My money is on that.
Do the ECU reset trick (not really an ECU reset but that's what it's become known as) and report back.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverBulletAMG
Search "tranny jerk" or "1500 rpm jerk" and you will find countless posts about this well known issue.
After a new radiator, rebuilt tranny top to bottom TWICE (warranty) new TCU and god only knows what else, I still have the "jerk" and like many others, have learned to live with it.
The ECU reset trick (also search) has proven to be the most effective way around this, although it's only a temp fix. The issue seems to be with the tq converter and/or the way the adaptive tranny learns, so I'm told by the "pros" anyway.
I didn't read this entire thread since it's been beaten to death, but if I'm just repeating what's already been said, I apologize.
Good luck!
But I do not have the 1500rpm jerk... If I cruise away extremely slowly, the car shifts flawlessly at 1500rpm, at any RPM, as long as their is a constant steady acceleration.

What I am saying is, if I am cruising at 35mph at 1300rpm and give it 30% throttle, the engine free revs to 2000rpm and the car will abruptly shift harshly into 4th gear (I think) Either that or the car was already in 4th gear and there's something funny with the converter lock-up. Does the converter even lock-up at 35mph under these conditions?

From my previous post, do you know what i'm saying when I say other automatic cars free rev from 1000rpm to 2000rpm and then hold the RPM at 2000 while accelerating without shifting?
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingleberry
But I do not have the 1500rpm jerk... If I cruise away extremely slowly, the car shifts flawlessly at 1500rpm, at any RPM, as long as their is a constant steady acceleration.

What I am saying is, if I am cruising at 35mph at 1300rpm and give it 30% throttle, the engine free revs to 2000rpm and the car will abruptly shift harshly into 4th gear (I think) Either that or the car was already in 4th gear and there's something funny with the converter lock-up. Does the converter even lock-up at 35mph under these conditions?

From my previous post, do you know what i'm saying when I say other automatic cars free rev from 1000rpm to 2000rpm and then hold the RPM at 2000 while accelerating without shifting?
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It only does it between 25-40 mph. Here's how to reproduce it:

Say i'm cruising at a speed ranging from 25-40mph with the engine at about 1500rpm. If I give it throttle, say 30%, the RPMs climb from 1500rpm to 2000rpm where it will abruptly and roughly shift into the next gear down to 1700rpm.

All of the other shifts are flawless.
it sounds very similiar to the infamous 1500 rpm jerk so many of us suffer from. That's not to say it can only happen at 1500 rpm. I understand what you're trying to say (I think lol) and stand by what I said before. My car does the same thing and has for a few years now. This after all the repairs listed above. Clear the adaptation and try again. Also try it while manually shifting so you can find out exactly what gear you're in.

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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 03:49 PM
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I tried the adaptation and it no longer does it.
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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I tried the adaptation and it no longer does it.
Good deal. If it's like mine, you'll end up having to do this every month or two. Oddly enough, I get better mileage around town when it's jerky (3-4 mpg worth) vs. after adaptations are cleared. Car should feel a bit peppier now as well, right?
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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Exact same too

This has happened after a complete tranny flush, at 105k miles. Ill check my fluid as well.
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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Just wanted from this forum group who will get this game and it would be cool to get your usernames.
Uh, double post and completely off topic. Start a new thread at the very least or head to the OT forum.

Side note: I will definitely be getting this game as soon as it hits the shelves.
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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I had the 1500 rpm jerk and lived with it ever since I got the car, I also had the Valeo radiator. the jerk comes and goes once in a while, I feel it more when its warm outside like 85 and up.

Well last weekend I got me a new Behr Radiator and tranny filter and oil. got a real good deal on parts from an online website...
I took my time and made sure I cleaned and inspected everything.

my Car is done now and WoW the car shift so smooth even when it was warm.

thanks to everyone in here I saved myself about $1700 bucks
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 07:31 PM
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I have just recently noticed I am having a jerk when I do apply light throttle on the 1 to 2 shift at low rpm... Its really starting to get on my nerves. I am just around 54 k maybe its time I flush the tranny fluid?
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