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Old 01-23-2010, 01:38 AM
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Question C32 alignment spec for H&R lowered rear spring???

Does anyone have the alignment spec or info for a C32 with lowered spring for the rear? i had tired Indy shop and The stealership but they failed at adjusting my alignment because they claimed that my car is lowered and they don't know how to properly adjust it.....

I just hit a major pot hole yesterday and spent 300 bucks at the stealership on alignment(tech claimed that he spent 3HR on adjusting)... the car came out steering to the right and the service adviser and tech said they both has set the front to (0,0) and it's straight.... they tried to adjust the back manually but he doesn't know what to do i guess..... when i spoke to the tech after i test drove my car... he kept on giving me excuse my car is modified and already tried his best.... they scheduled me to come back on Monday again for readjustment and recommended to to purchase a new bolt for the rear adjustment. i'm sure they will spend another 2-3 hr labor again trying to milk me.....

All four tires(Continental ExtremeContact DWS) are new and replaced..

BTW, this is silverstar queens stealership..... they claimed that they have an AMG team just for our cars but my tech was just a regular dude who takes their long *** time and careless type(IMO by the way he spoke).....

Info or number spec for alignment front and rear please?

Thanks in advance guys....

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If your car is lowered on the H&R springs then you should not need any alignment in the rear unless something is bent. In the front you will only need "Toe" alignment unless something is bent. The 1/2 degree of adjustment you can get from the bolts only adjust the caster and camber and 1/2 degree will not make it pull to one side.

Did the car drive straight before hitting the pothole?
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Plenty of potholes and lousy pavement around here too.
What prompted the so-called alignment, and did they provide before & after readouts of its settings?

Altering the ride height does change caster, camber and toe. It’s a normal occurrence as the suspension cycles through its available travel. Several here have modified suspensions that don’t pull or contribute to excessive tire wear. Aftermarket arms for dialing out excessive negative camber in the rear have been used successfully.

Our C’s suspension is so simple and tough it’s pretty hard to screw up. Its relative lack of adjustability helps to make it all the more so. Could be that something is bent, but any competent technician would have brought that to your attention instead of offering up silly excuses as to why it pulls.

When a shop balks at working on a modified car, that’s a strong indication for one to take it elsewhere. Respectfully suggest you enlist the services of a performance-oriented facility who’s familiar with suspension upgrades.

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if the car keeps leaning to the right its a bad caster adjustment. There's a thread on the w203 forums for the correct specs.

I'll see if i can find it. But keep in mind if it leans to the right a little bit on the highway thats ok, since the road is slightly slanted to the right for water drainage.

I doubt the guy spent 3hrs. Most please now use alignment machine with the lasers to do the adjustments. You basically just move the wheel around until it hits the laser.

Usually only alignment specialists who do custom alignments still do it the old way since its very time consuming.
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Originally Posted by Zeppelin
If your car is lowered on the H&R springs then you should not need any alignment in the rear unless something is bent. In the front you will only need "Toe" alignment unless something is bent. The 1/2 degree of adjustment you can get from the bolts only adjust the caster and camber and 1/2 degree will not make it pull to one side.

Did the car drive straight before hitting the pothole?
My car drives straight before and after i hit that pothole. I when to the stealership just in cause if they find something that is damage. But after I get my alignment back from them, my car steers to the right as if it turns 10 degrees with my wheel but my steering wheel is in the center.

The tech told me to get new bolts for the rear because he claims that he can't turn or adjust the rear bolt.... so I'm going back on Monday to have it replaced... which it will cost me 18 bucks a side.... BTW, he is one of those tech that just wants to get paid and sucks his teeth when you tell him there is a problem. This is also the first time i when in side the MB garage where they fix cars.... the whole time I'm standing there while he checks the computer with his saggy pants. i felt like why on earth did i bring my car to have those people and only knows how to follow the MB manual and can't think outside of the box....

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Originally Posted by TemjinX2
if the car keeps leaning to the right its a bad caster adjustment. There's a thread on the w203 forums for the correct specs.

I'll see if i can find it. But keep in mind if it leans to the right a little bit on the highway thats ok, since the road is slightly slanted to the right for water drainage.

I doubt the guy spent 3hrs. Most please now use alignment machine with the lasers to do the adjustments. You basically just move the wheel around until it hits the laser.

Usually only alignment specialists who do custom alignments still do it the old way since its very time consuming.
He claims that he doesn't know what spec to get it to because my rear is lowered and the factory spec do not allow him to go outside the limit.....
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Here's the link to another guys whose car kepting pulling to the right. Basically his cross caster was off so the car kepted pulling to the right.

I dont think its the rears thats the problem, its probably the front. Your going to have more negative camber in the rear since its lowered. Long as the toe is fine then the rear should be ok.

I would just go off the specs, splinter posted. Have them readjust it and ask for a print out.

Also check your tire pressure on all your tires. A under inflated tire can cause pull.

https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...ing-right.html
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Originally Posted by gtr886
My car drives straight before and after i hit that pothole. I when to the stealership just in cause if they find something that is damage. But after I get my alignment back from them, my car steers to the right as if it turns 10 degrees with my wheel but my steering wheel is in the center.
So the question is does it pull to the right or does it drive straight but the steering wheel is out of center when it is going straight?
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Originally Posted by Zeppelin
So the question is does it pull to the right or does it drive straight but the steering wheel is out of center when it is going straight?
My car pulls to the right when my steering wheel is in the center. In order to drive straight, I have to turn 10 degree left to correct the right pull.

Does anyone know the part number for the adjustment bolt in the rear? I don't want to buy it from the stealership. They told me is 18 bucks a side and they won't give me the part number.
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i think the guy just didnt center the steering wheel before he made the adjustments. You should tell him to redo it with the steering wheel centered.
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Originally Posted by TemjinX2
i think the guy just didnt center the steering wheel before he made the adjustments. You should tell him to redo it with the steering wheel centered.
He claims that my rear adjustment bolt is stuck and he could not turn it at all..... he stated that the reason is becuase someone had installed the adjustment bolt form the top to bottom and it's supposed be bottom up. I have no idea.... I just feel like this tech is a bunch of BS.....
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My car pulls to the right when my steering wheel is in the center. In order to drive straight, I have to turn 10 degree left to correct the right pull.

Does anyone know the part number for the adjustment bolt in the rear? I don't want to buy it from the stealership. They told me is 18 bucks a side and they won't give me the part number.
When you let go of the wheel on a straight, flat road, does it still pull to the right? If yes, then the wheel shouldn't have anything to do with it.
Mine also pulls to the right. I have lifetime alignments with Firestone and they said they can't adjust mine any farther to make up for the slight pull. They gave me a picture of a part that I needed some time ago, but it basically just looked like a longer bolt. It is my understanding our cars (all cars for that matter) are supposed to pull slightly to the right in case you let go of the wheel/fall asleep it will drift to the right and not oncoming traffic. Sounds good in theory at least.

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When you let go of the wheel on a straight, flat road, does it still pull to the right? If yes, then the wheel shouldn't have anything to do with it.
Mine also pulls to the right. I have lifetime alignments with Firestone and they said they can't adjust mine any farther to make up for the slight pull. They gave me a picture of a part that I needed some time ago, but it basically just looked like a longer bolt. It is my understanding our cars (all cars for that matter) are supposed to pull slightly to the right in case you let go of the wheel/fall asleep it will drift to the right and not oncoming traffic. Sounds good in theory at least.
Spent 550 bucks from the silverstar stealership! They charged me twice for the 1st bad alignment and had to replace one new caster bar to correct the rear adjustment.
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Spent 550 bucks from the silverstar stealership! They charged me twice for the 1st bad alignment and had to replace one new caster bar to correct the rear adjustment.
Ouch! It's something like $150 at Firestone for lifetime alignments.

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