video of my m3 running with a c32
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video of my m3 running with a c32
I met up with a guy who has a c32. We ran a few times and I thought I would post this over here since every week someone posts, "What is faster, m3 or c32" . This is not to start a flame war, as I have great respect for c32's and it was a lot of fun. The link is in this thread: http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh...threadid=85041
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M3 is really a nice car, the SMG-II performs even better, IMHO
NE1 of enhanced C32 w/full Evosport package out there try
stage-2 feul setting ?
It's 10% richer than factory to match the ODPS boost up.
NE1 of enhanced C32 w/full Evosport package out there try
stage-2 feul setting ?
It's 10% richer than factory to match the ODPS boost up.
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wow im suprised with the results. The C32 losing from a roll is impressive. What is really dissapointing is the C32 with the pulley kit. what the hell is that about? is the EVOsport pulley just **** or what? Dead even with an m3 when its supposed to have a significant hp and torque advantage is interesting.
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Originally posted by AMGDood
wow im suprised with the results. The C32 losing from a roll is impressive. What is really dissapointing is the C32 with the pulley kit. what the hell is that about? is the EVOsport pulley just **** or what? Dead even with an m3 when its supposed to have a significant hp and torque advantage is interesting.
wow im suprised with the results. The C32 losing from a roll is impressive. What is really dissapointing is the C32 with the pulley kit. what the hell is that about? is the EVOsport pulley just **** or what? Dead even with an m3 when its supposed to have a significant hp and torque advantage is interesting.
I did race another c32 with the evosport pulley and intercooler upgrade and I lost by 2-3 cars. We did not run from a stop, because he could not get traction. From a stop I think we would have been neck and neck...
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ive raced my friend with an smg m3 and i beat him but i dont think he knew about the launch mode that you were talkign about. Im sure the smg helps a lot in the races cause when ive raced stick m3's i notice i pull on them the most when theyre shifting. Oh and yea...C32 off the line gets horrid traction(at least for me)
Good job by the way( I forgot to say that before)
Good job by the way( I forgot to say that before)
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Does that mean if you do not use the launch mode, a M3 (with or without SMG) will lose to a C32 from a standstill?
I have once raced with a M3 on I-5 and I can pull away from him starting from 90+mph. Maybe that guy who drives the M3 does not know how to drive. But I have pulled away from a couple more M3s on different occasions.
However, your video is the best proof. I cant challenge it. I am impressed too. I am also very surprised why the one who the Evo pulley kit has lost.
I have once raced with a M3 on I-5 and I can pull away from him starting from 90+mph. Maybe that guy who drives the M3 does not know how to drive. But I have pulled away from a couple more M3s on different occasions.
However, your video is the best proof. I cant challenge it. I am impressed too. I am also very surprised why the one who the Evo pulley kit has lost.
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Here is a dyno graph of M3 SMG (Blue) vs. C32 (Red). M3 has Euro header and Supersprint muffler. C32 has ODPS. As you can see gearing comes out close, both cars shift at almost the same speed. However, look at duration of the shifts. M3 completes both 2nd to 3rd and 3rd to 4th shifts faster. This is enough to compensate for power advantage.
If both cars weight the same, including drivers, than they will be very close.
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C32 had a bad launch.
From standing still launch, C32 didn't even spin its wheel until M3 already launch about 1/2 cars length.
Note: both clips are Stock to Stock. The mod C32 wasn't on the video.
Note: both clips are Stock to Stock. The mod C32 wasn't on the video.
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Re: C32 had a bad launch.
Originally posted by DL_AMG
From standing still launch, C32 didn't even spin its wheel until M3 already launch about 1/2 cars length.
Note: both clips are Stock to Stock. The mod C32 wasn't on the video.
From standing still launch, C32 didn't even spin its wheel until M3 already launch about 1/2 cars length.
Note: both clips are Stock to Stock. The mod C32 wasn't on the video.
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During the second race (from a stop), I tried to feather the gas pedal and guess what? I didn't give it enough gas!!! DAMN IT! Once I stepped on it, it was all too late. It must be the worst launch in my racing history besides the time in the MR2 vs the Mustang.
As for the rolling start, I left the tranny in "D" going about 15 mph and then punched it. Pulled for a few seconds and when the M3 shifted into it's 3rd gear, it passed me, stop gaining and kept 1 car lead to 120 mph plus. Didn't realize the M3 can pull on me from a roll...still scratching my head.
Fun races and I give the M3 SMG full credit for the wins, but I reserve to think a more experienced driver can turn the table in the other direction.
As for the rolling start, I left the tranny in "D" going about 15 mph and then punched it. Pulled for a few seconds and when the M3 shifted into it's 3rd gear, it passed me, stop gaining and kept 1 car lead to 120 mph plus. Didn't realize the M3 can pull on me from a roll...still scratching my head.
Fun races and I give the M3 SMG full credit for the wins, but I reserve to think a more experienced driver can turn the table in the other direction.
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Originally posted by av2
During the second race (from a stop), I tried to feather the gas pedal and guess what? I didn't give it enough gas!!! DAMN IT! Once I stepped on it, it was all too late. It must be the worst launch in my racing history besides the time in the MR2 vs the Mustang.
As for the rolling start, I left the tranny in "D" going about 15 mph and then punched it. Pulled for a few seconds and when the M3 shifted into it's 3rd gear, it passed me, stop gaining and kept 1 car lead to 120 mph plus. Didn't realize the M3 can pull on me from a roll...still scratching my head.
Fun races and I give the M3 SMG full credit for the wins, but I reserve to think a more experienced driver can turn the table in the other direction.
During the second race (from a stop), I tried to feather the gas pedal and guess what? I didn't give it enough gas!!! DAMN IT! Once I stepped on it, it was all too late. It must be the worst launch in my racing history besides the time in the MR2 vs the Mustang.
As for the rolling start, I left the tranny in "D" going about 15 mph and then punched it. Pulled for a few seconds and when the M3 shifted into it's 3rd gear, it passed me, stop gaining and kept 1 car lead to 120 mph plus. Didn't realize the M3 can pull on me from a roll...still scratching my head.
Fun races and I give the M3 SMG full credit for the wins, but I reserve to think a more experienced driver can turn the table in the other direction.
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from the vid you can see that sticky didn't cheat or anything. it's just that av2 got a bad launch. the difference from the roll might have been because av2 left it in D instead of 2 or 3rd gear when he punched it.
btw, does anybody notice that when the trans is in W mode it shift early before reaching the red line?
btw, does anybody notice that when the trans is in W mode it shift early before reaching the red line?
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Originally posted by FrankW
from the vid you can see that sticky didn't cheat or anything. it's just that av2 got a bad launch. the difference from the roll might have been because av2 left it in D instead of 2 or 3rd gear when he punched it.
btw, does anybody notice that when the trans is in W mode it shift early before reaching the red line?
from the vid you can see that sticky didn't cheat or anything. it's just that av2 got a bad launch. the difference from the roll might have been because av2 left it in D instead of 2 or 3rd gear when he punched it.
btw, does anybody notice that when the trans is in W mode it shift early before reaching the red line?
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Originally posted by muhri2
FrankW, the W is for winter mode - Not only does the car shift early. It starts in 2nd gear !! Never use it if racing
FrankW, the W is for winter mode - Not only does the car shift early. It starts in 2nd gear !! Never use it if racing
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I don't know how you guys drive your C32.
I have raced my friends M3 SMG sooo many times that we finally gave up. Both cars are dead even ! Sometimes there where small differences but that was due to who get the better launch. Maybe there are other small difference in the European C32 setup that makes it faster.
Next weekend we will have another go ... he will be in for a surprise (ODPS installed!)
I have raced my friends M3 SMG sooo many times that we finally gave up. Both cars are dead even ! Sometimes there where small differences but that was due to who get the better launch. Maybe there are other small difference in the European C32 setup that makes it faster.
Next weekend we will have another go ... he will be in for a surprise (ODPS installed!)
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Gimpy, how i lost 1/2 car to you from a roll still puzzles me when Charlie's C32 pulled you by 4-5 cars the next night.
We have the exact same setup. I'll have to question my own driving skills on that one. Who knows, Too many factors. Anyways, it was fun winning 1 and losing 1 to your M3/SMG.
Next time we'll line up at the track.
Gimpy, can you post your time slip from Cali Speedway.
I would like to compare.
Here's mine. I'm on right lane.
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We have the exact same setup. I'll have to question my own driving skills on that one. Who knows, Too many factors. Anyways, it was fun winning 1 and losing 1 to your M3/SMG.
Next time we'll line up at the track.
Gimpy, can you post your time slip from Cali Speedway.
I would like to compare.
Here's mine. I'm on right lane.
Peter
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Originally posted by av2
During the second race (from a stop), I tried to feather the gas pedal and guess what? I didn't give it enough gas!!! DAMN IT! Once I stepped on it, it was all too late. It must be the worst launch in my racing history besides the time in the MR2 vs the Mustang.
As for the rolling start, I left the tranny in "D" going about 15 mph and then punched it. Pulled for a few seconds and when the M3 shifted into it's 3rd gear, it passed me, stop gaining and kept 1 car lead to 120 mph plus. Didn't realize the M3 can pull on me from a roll...still scratching my head.
Fun races and I give the M3 SMG full credit for the wins, but I reserve to think a more experienced driver can turn the table in the other direction.
During the second race (from a stop), I tried to feather the gas pedal and guess what? I didn't give it enough gas!!! DAMN IT! Once I stepped on it, it was all too late. It must be the worst launch in my racing history besides the time in the MR2 vs the Mustang.
As for the rolling start, I left the tranny in "D" going about 15 mph and then punched it. Pulled for a few seconds and when the M3 shifted into it's 3rd gear, it passed me, stop gaining and kept 1 car lead to 120 mph plus. Didn't realize the M3 can pull on me from a roll...still scratching my head.
Fun races and I give the M3 SMG full credit for the wins, but I reserve to think a more experienced driver can turn the table in the other direction.
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Hey Sticky,
Just curious, were you racing on regular 91 or 103 octane? My 1/4 mile trap speed matches yours based on the 3 time slips you posted on Bimmerforum. At the track, I left the tranny in "D" and just mash the gas all the way (on regular 91). The only run of the day 13.8 sec @ 103.8 mph.
Just curious, were you racing on regular 91 or 103 octane? My 1/4 mile trap speed matches yours based on the 3 time slips you posted on Bimmerforum. At the track, I left the tranny in "D" and just mash the gas all the way (on regular 91). The only run of the day 13.8 sec @ 103.8 mph.
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Originally posted by av2
Hey Sticky,
Just curious, were you racing on regular 91 or 103 octane? My 1/4 mile trap speed matches yours based on the 3 time slips you posted on Bimmerforum. At the track, I left the tranny in "D" and just mash the gas all the way (on regular 91). The only run of the day 13.8 sec @ 103.8 mph.
Hey Sticky,
Just curious, were you racing on regular 91 or 103 octane? My 1/4 mile trap speed matches yours based on the 3 time slips you posted on Bimmerforum. At the track, I left the tranny in "D" and just mash the gas all the way (on regular 91). The only run of the day 13.8 sec @ 103.8 mph.
