55 Kompressor in a Crossfire!!!
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55 Kompressor in a Crossfire!!!
Not sure how many of you read Jalopnik but....
"Let's start with this Crossfire, which takes a 55K "Kompressor" mill and adds it into the engine bay of the underloved Chrysler-badged product. Note, the AMG 55K put out a maximum of 500 hp at 6100 RPM stock with a hair-rising 516 lb-ft of torque. Stock..."
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http://jalopnik.com/5680691/chrysler...--krosspressor
Insanity.
"Let's start with this Crossfire, which takes a 55K "Kompressor" mill and adds it into the engine bay of the underloved Chrysler-badged product. Note, the AMG 55K put out a maximum of 500 hp at 6100 RPM stock with a hair-rising 516 lb-ft of torque. Stock..."
![](http://cache-02.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2010/11/rawazb_6884.jpg)
http://jalopnik.com/5680691/chrysler...--krosspressor
Insanity.
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Not sure how many of you read Jalopnik but....
"Let's start with this Crossfire, which takes a 55K "Kompressor" mill and adds it into the engine bay of the underloved Chrysler-badged product. Note, the AMG 55K put out a maximum of 500 hp at 6100 RPM stock with a hair-rising 516 lb-ft of torque. Stock..."
![](http://cache-02.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2010/11/rawazb_6884.jpg)
http://jalopnik.com/5680691/chrysler...--krosspressor
Insanity.
"Let's start with this Crossfire, which takes a 55K "Kompressor" mill and adds it into the engine bay of the underloved Chrysler-badged product. Note, the AMG 55K put out a maximum of 500 hp at 6100 RPM stock with a hair-rising 516 lb-ft of torque. Stock..."
![](http://cache-02.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2010/11/rawazb_6884.jpg)
http://jalopnik.com/5680691/chrysler...--krosspressor
Insanity.
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haha. he is on the srt6 crossfire forum. was working on it all summer. he was sending me pics of it all summer long....and i'll say that the M113k motor he got came from an E55 that got a ----(edited)--- sweet motor.
he actually might be on this forum too...though i'm too lazy to search for his handle
he actually might be on this forum too...though i'm too lazy to search for his handle
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haha. he is on the srt6 crossfire forum. was working on it all summer. he was sending me pics of it all summer long....and i'll say that the M113k motor he got came from an E55 that got a V12 TT motor.
he actually might be on this forum too...though i'm too lazy to search for his handle
he actually might be on this forum too...though i'm too lazy to search for his handle
He's got some project cars that will curl your hair and dry your skin!! In other words, HOT!!! Almost 198 in an SL at the Texas Mile recently too in a 20-30 MPH crosswind) !! (Best in Class) WOW!!
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Jo Borras is here indeed under Speedriven. Working on a few of my cars as we speak Josh!!!
He's got some project cars that will curl your hair and dry your skin!! In other words, HOT!!! Almost 198 in an SL at the Texas Mile recently too in a 20-30 MPH crosswind) !! (Best in Class) WOW!!
He's got some project cars that will curl your hair and dry your skin!! In other words, HOT!!! Almost 198 in an SL at the Texas Mile recently too in a 20-30 MPH crosswind) !! (Best in Class) WOW!!
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rudy not only did the physical swap he is the genius behind the ecu work. wish the blog would give credit were its due. i have seen this car and its a massive beast but from a detail standpoint its hard to tell from stock. one of the most impressive swaps i have seen.
even brabus cant make the cars start from a key when they swap engines. pauls car starts with the key and looks amazing
even brabus cant make the cars start from a key when they swap engines. pauls car starts with the key and looks amazing
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Yeah, saw this on Jalopnik today... what made you want to convert a Crossfire?
Just a mountain that needed to be climbed?
Either way, looks like a pretty sweet ride.
Just a mountain that needed to be climbed?
Either way, looks like a pretty sweet ride.
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For the love of such a unique car and because Paul said he was tired of being last! They only made them for a few years, never had an update or facelift so they are timeless and they are quite nimble and an absolute blast to drive. Throw in all that extra power and you have a car that can walk a C6Z06 and the like in the straights and run away from just about anything in the twisties. That and it was a personal challenge after assisting LantanaTX with his swap. I liked what I saw and knew I could add to it so we went forward with it. Getting all the electronics figured out and being able to start the car with the key was quite an accomplishment as 32krazy pointed out. Wish the article would have been a little more accurate when it came to the who did what but it's a car that Paul and I built on Jalopnik and people weren't screaming 'OMG, my eyes are bleeding' so that's a good thing. Marcin at Speedriven and Rob at NeedsWings had a lot to do with it being possible so I wish the article called them out and not just the Speedriven name. All in all, glad people outside this and the Crossfire communities get a chance to see the handy-work.
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For the love of such a unique car and because Paul said he was tired of being last! They only made them for a few years, never had an update or facelift so they are timeless and they are quite nimble and an absolute blast to drive. Throw in all that extra power and you have a car that can walk a C6Z06 and the like in the straights and run away from just about anything in the twisties. That and it was a personal challenge after assisting LantanaTX with his swap. I liked what I saw and knew I could add to it so we went forward with it. Getting all the electronics figured out and being able to start the car with the key was quite an accomplishment as 32krazy pointed out. Wish the article would have been a little more accurate when it came to the who did what but it's a car that Paul and I built on Jalopnik and people weren't screaming 'OMG, my eyes are bleeding' so that's a good thing. Marcin at Speedriven and Rob at NeedsWings had a lot to do with it being possible so I wish the article called them out and not just the Speedriven name. All in all, glad people outside this and the Crossfire communities get a chance to see the handy-work.
For those of you who don't know (I know many of you are aware of this already), the Crossfire's engine was built on MB specs in America (this is disputed, some people believe the engines were actually built in Germany at an MB factory) to replicate the now legendary MB 3.2L V6 engine found in the likes of the SLK320, E320 and others and the SRT model replicated the supercharged 3.2L V6 engine found in the C32. During the Daimler-Chrysler merger the Crossfire was the first production car hybrid of the merger and was based on the R170 SLK platform (previous generation). Due to a high base price on the 'Limited' models (non-SRT), the relative underpowered engine for the heavy vehicle, and the stiff competition in the two-door coupe market segment in America in that price range (e.g. Nissan 350Z, Mercedes SLK, Audi TT, and others) the Crossfire never sold well and production ended after 3 years. Not too long after, Daimler and Chrysler broke off their ill-fated partnership and Crossfire owners are now left with the problem of finding good service for their vehicles as the number of Chrysler dealerships shrink and there seems to be no techs (Chrysler technicians had to be trained by MB to work on the Crossfire. Those technicians/mechanics became known to Crossfire owners as "Crossfire Techs".) who can work on these vehicles anymore. Some Crossfire owners believe the car will one day rank with the likes of the notorious Chrysler-Maserati TC because of the bizarre origins of the car and relative obscurity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_TC_by_Maserati). However, in my opinion while in theory this sounds plausible, due to the massive amount of Crossfires that were produced (I seem to remember somewhere around 70,000), they won't ever be a collector car. On the other hand, I do believe those owners who are able to keep their Crossfire SRT-6s in great condition and with low miles (difficult I know!), will one day have a collector car on their hands, as there were far fewer SRTs produced (rcompart chime-in if you know then number).
Sorry for the history lesson, however, as a fellow gearhead who spent many hours of my time and effort working on my old Crossfire, I jump at the chance to share the story of the Crossfire when given the chance. Can't let my girlfriend see this post - it will reveal the true nerd nature of my passion for cars.
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For the love of such a unique car and because Paul said he was tired of being last! They only made them for a few years, never had an update or facelift so they are timeless and they are quite nimble and an absolute blast to drive. Throw in all that extra power and you have a car that can walk a C6Z06 and the like in the straights and run away from just about anything in the twisties. That and it was a personal challenge after assisting LantanaTX with his swap. I liked what I saw and knew I could add to it so we went forward with it. Getting all the electronics figured out and being able to start the car with the key was quite an accomplishment as 32krazy pointed out. Wish the article would have been a little more accurate when it came to the who did what but it's a car that Paul and I built on Jalopnik and people weren't screaming 'OMG, my eyes are bleeding' so that's a good thing. Marcin at Speedriven and Rob at NeedsWings had a lot to do with it being possible so I wish the article called them out and not just the Speedriven name. All in all, glad people outside this and the Crossfire communities get a chance to see the handy-work.
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@mrobinso - fascinating story. Will a MB dealership service a Crossfire?
@rcompart - was the engine swap similar to what anyone would expect from trying to swap the M112 out, or was the 20% Chrysler that much of a headache?
Again, great job on the swap. It looks like nice ride. I'm sure the insurance is even better too
@rcompart - was the engine swap similar to what anyone would expect from trying to swap the M112 out, or was the 20% Chrysler that much of a headache?
Again, great job on the swap. It looks like nice ride. I'm sure the insurance is even better too
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rudy not only did the physical swap he is the genius behind the ecu work. wish the blog would give credit were its due. i have seen this car and its a massive beast but from a detail standpoint its hard to tell from stock. one of the most impressive swaps i have seen.
even brabus cant make the cars start from a key when they swap engines. pauls car starts with the key and looks amazing
even brabus cant make the cars start from a key when they swap engines. pauls car starts with the key and looks amazing
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@mrobinso - They made less than 3000 Crossfire SRT6s worldwide so yes, it is a rare car that should be quite collectible in 20 or so years if people can keep them in great shape and low miles.
@Coupecrazy - Only added about 175lbs to the front end which in a car that only weighs about 3200lbs it didn't change too much. We did stiffen up the suspension with new springs and shocks to keep everything in check and make sure handling didn't suffer and this last fall at the Dragon, Paul said it really didn't feel like it lost anything handling-wise and perhaps felt a little more planted going into the corners.
@ao125 - There is a lot going on under the hood of this car to make everything work happily with each other. We used parts and electronics from many different MB models to try to minimize the amount of one-off custom made parts that had to be made for the car but we couldn't get away with doing that for everything. One thing that really presented challenges was that the SLK was one of the last cars to have EZS with the switchblade key and making that work with the new ECU. Don't let anyone fool you, that 20% has more to do with the interior appointments and the exterior sheet metal than it does anything else. The car rolled down the same line at the Karmann plant as the SLK using the same parts and quite literally, these cars are an R170 facelift and nothing more. Some like the looks better, some don't but you have that with any car.
@Coupecrazy - Only added about 175lbs to the front end which in a car that only weighs about 3200lbs it didn't change too much. We did stiffen up the suspension with new springs and shocks to keep everything in check and make sure handling didn't suffer and this last fall at the Dragon, Paul said it really didn't feel like it lost anything handling-wise and perhaps felt a little more planted going into the corners.
@ao125 - There is a lot going on under the hood of this car to make everything work happily with each other. We used parts and electronics from many different MB models to try to minimize the amount of one-off custom made parts that had to be made for the car but we couldn't get away with doing that for everything. One thing that really presented challenges was that the SLK was one of the last cars to have EZS with the switchblade key and making that work with the new ECU. Don't let anyone fool you, that 20% has more to do with the interior appointments and the exterior sheet metal than it does anything else. The car rolled down the same line at the Karmann plant as the SLK using the same parts and quite literally, these cars are an R170 facelift and nothing more. Some like the looks better, some don't but you have that with any car.
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@ao125 - There is a lot going on under the hood of this car to make everything work happily with each other. We used parts and electronics from many different MB models to try to minimize the amount of one-off custom made parts that had to be made for the car but we couldn't get away with doing that for everything. One thing that really presented challenges was that the SLK was one of the last cars to have EZS with the switchblade key and making that work with the new ECU. Don't let anyone fool you, that 20% has more to do with the interior appointments and the exterior sheet metal than it does anything else. The car rolled down the same line at the Karmann plant as the SLK using the same parts and quite literally, these cars are an R170 facelift and nothing more. Some like the looks better, some don't but you have that with any car.
SLK top-up < Crossfire coupe
Just my $0.02
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Still working on some stuff with the guys at Speedriven before it hits the rollers. As for getting to the track, we need to beef up the car before we throw on the drag slicks or we're just going to be breaking stuff. LOL
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Rudy, I've said it before and I'll say it again: YOU, sir, are a mastermind.
I've seen and heard this car in person, it's a monster and is only the beginning for the Crossfire faithful. There will be more.
I've seen and heard this car in person, it's a monster and is only the beginning for the Crossfire faithful. There will be more.
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