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C55 AMG T with Kleemann K2 and some stuff: 414 hp and 562 Nm :-)
Don´t they calculate with 18% drivetrainloss on our 5-speeder?
Tell us later, Michael, if you feel additional power when the
adaptation is complete?
//Peter.
Tell us later, Michael, if you feel additional power when the
adaptation is complete?
//Peter.
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There is not a set % driveline loss. It is dependant on the power of the vehicle. There is a set amount of resistance that it takes to spin the gears in a transmission, driveshaft, rear diff, and axles. In a stock 350hp car if there is a 18% driveline loss then 63hp is needed to spin the driveline. Now if you have a 1000hp car...it does not take 180hp to spin that same driveline.
So it is not a set driveline loss percentage%. This is one of the largest missconceptions in the industry.
So it is not a set driveline loss percentage%. This is one of the largest missconceptions in the industry.
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this is true, and false.
The more power you have, the more you lose in the torque converter. More heat is generated and there is more slip.
Also, since we are talking about HP and not Torque, hp is derived based on speed of accelerating the motor. During acceleration, the 1000HP motor will spin up the engine quicker which introduces more rotational resistance (inertia resistance) and therefore takes away more of your final HP. Your torque loss at the wheels does not change when you increase HP but your HP loss does change.
However, you are correct. it's not a static % across the board.
HP at the wheels is the only important number to have. HP at the motor isn't as meaningful for all these reasons.
This is why putting a lighter flywheel or lighter crank pulley gives you more HP at the wheels. Does it give more torque? no. Does it give more HP at the engine? no. It only takes away some of that rotational resistance changing your 18% loss to 17% (for example)
The more power you have, the more you lose in the torque converter. More heat is generated and there is more slip.
Also, since we are talking about HP and not Torque, hp is derived based on speed of accelerating the motor. During acceleration, the 1000HP motor will spin up the engine quicker which introduces more rotational resistance (inertia resistance) and therefore takes away more of your final HP. Your torque loss at the wheels does not change when you increase HP but your HP loss does change.
However, you are correct. it's not a static % across the board.
HP at the wheels is the only important number to have. HP at the motor isn't as meaningful for all these reasons.
This is why putting a lighter flywheel or lighter crank pulley gives you more HP at the wheels. Does it give more torque? no. Does it give more HP at the engine? no. It only takes away some of that rotational resistance changing your 18% loss to 17% (for example)
There is not a set % driveline loss. It is dependant on the power of the vehicle. There is a set amount of resistance that it takes to spin the gears in a transmission, driveshaft, rear diff, and axles. In a stock 350hp car if there is a 18% driveline loss then 63hp is needed to spin the driveline. Now if you have a 1000hp car...it does not take 180hp to spin that same driveline.
So it is not a set driveline loss percentage%. This is one of the largest missconceptions in the industry.
So it is not a set driveline loss percentage%. This is one of the largest missconceptions in the industry.
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There is not a set % driveline loss. It is dependant on the power of the vehicle. There is a set amount of resistance that it takes to spin the gears in a transmission, driveshaft, rear diff, and axles. In a stock 350hp car if there is a 18% driveline loss then 63hp is needed to spin the driveline. Now if you have a 1000hp car...it does not take 180hp to spin that same driveline.
So it is not a set driveline loss percentage%. This is one of the largest missconceptions in the industry.
So it is not a set driveline loss percentage%. This is one of the largest missconceptions in the industry.
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alright well tomorrow i get new tires oh and what do you know, i'm also running the 1/4 mile for the first time tomorrow night. hopefully i dip in the 12's. that'd be nice 
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C55 AMG T with Kleemann K2 and some stuff: 414 hp and 562 Nm :-)
319 divided with 305 is 1,0459.
(after and before hp)
1,0459 times 362 hp SAE is 378,6164 hp SAE.
1,0459 times 367 hp DIN is 383,8459 hp DIN.
Approx 380 hp on the crank.
If you gained 20 hp instead, you would have
385,5738 hp SAE, or 391,0655 hp DIN.
Approx almost 10 hp more.
But the driveability is improved as well (throttelresponse etc),
right?
//Peter. (With Kleemann software.)
(after and before hp)
1,0459 times 362 hp SAE is 378,6164 hp SAE.
1,0459 times 367 hp DIN is 383,8459 hp DIN.
Approx 380 hp on the crank.
If you gained 20 hp instead, you would have
385,5738 hp SAE, or 391,0655 hp DIN.
Approx almost 10 hp more.
But the driveability is improved as well (throttelresponse etc),
right?
//Peter. (With Kleemann software.)
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sorry was a question not a statement....i should have been more clear instead of using the ? guy pic....
