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Old May 17, 2003 | 11:45 PM
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hit the track today

Well today, I was off of work, and me and a few friends decided to head upstate to the nearest drag strip. I think i did great for my first time. The first try 0-60 i did was 5.6, this happened cause my tired spun for awhile. Then my second try 0-60 i did 5.3.
My first try 1/4 mile was 13.8, then my second try was 13.49 which i find good. While i was there, i blew a supercharged mustang, a turbo charged e36 m3, a e46 m3, my friends turbo mx6, my friends twin turbo supra, and i also beat carrera. The only race i lost to was my cousins sl 55 amg. C32 all the way....
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Old May 17, 2003 | 11:55 PM
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Great job! Only lost to another big brother AMG and that's okay.
I love my C32 and hopefuly I can try my on the "SOLO" track too...maybe soon.
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Old May 18, 2003 | 12:53 AM
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Old May 18, 2003 | 12:03 PM
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your 1/4mile track gets your 0-60mph? or do you mean 0-60ft? because your 60ft is supposed to be around 2.0
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Old May 19, 2003 | 04:02 PM
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what?

Ro0zy, my best 1/4 mile time was 13.8 and my best 0-60 was 5.3
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Old May 19, 2003 | 04:59 PM
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0-60mph? i never knew 1/4mile tracks measure that
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Old May 19, 2003 | 05:35 PM
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I thought i was in the W220 forum so I was like.. the 600 should be hitting low 12's! LOL!

Great car man. Perfect kills. No problem losing to big brother!
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Old May 21, 2003 | 06:51 PM
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That's interesting...you beat an M3 (E46). Did it have the SMG transmission?? I just can't imaging how the C32 can beat the M3 (if everything else being equal...aka driver). Was the M3 a convertible or coupe?? If convertible, then maybe. But a M3 coupe should not lose to C32 (stock vs. stock).
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Old May 21, 2003 | 07:00 PM
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That's interesting...you beat an M3 (E46). Did it have the SMG transmission?? I just can't imaging how the C32 can beat the M3 (if everything else being equal...aka driver). Was the M3 a convertible or coupe?? If convertible, then maybe. But a M3 coupe should not lose to C32 (stock vs. stock).

who are you? please stop talking........now.
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Old May 21, 2003 | 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by Thai
That's interesting...you beat an M3 (E46). Did it have the SMG transmission?? I just can't imaging how the C32 can beat the M3 (if everything else being equal...aka driver). Was the M3 a convertible or coupe?? If convertible, then maybe. But a M3 coupe should not lose to C32 (stock vs. stock).
A turbo e36 or a stock e 46 can be beat by C32? No Prob.
Also depends on tires/driver/boost, But it looks like he beat those cars. mid 13's is fast for a sedan..
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Old May 21, 2003 | 09:12 PM
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lets see.........

It wasn't smg i dont think, the kid was young and it was his first stick car, so i guess he didnt drive well.
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Old May 21, 2003 | 09:36 PM
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Stupid....

That kid is an idiot! Why would you go to the drag strip if you couldn't drive a manual that well? I will guaruntee you that kid thrashed his clutch and car while he was at the strip!

On the other side I am glad to see you at the strip improving your skills and giving your car a workout! But if you were running mid 13's in your 1/4 mile a halfway skilled M3 driver should be able to beat you, cus a well driven M3 should run very low 13's. But all in all thanks for the post and info glad to see your out there having fun time, which is what its all about!!

Cheers!
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Old May 22, 2003 | 01:55 PM
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Re: Stupid....

Originally posted by AmgBoy
That kid is an idiot! Why would you go to the drag strip if you couldn't drive a manual that well? I will guaruntee you that kid thrashed his clutch and car while he was at the strip!

On the other side I am glad to see you at the strip improving your skills and giving your car a workout! But if you were running mid 13's in your 1/4 mile a halfway skilled M3 driver should be able to beat you, cus a well driven M3 should run very low 13's. But all in all thanks for the post and info glad to see your out there having fun time, which is what its all about!!

Cheers!
Unless you have been in a C32 I dont think you can guess that a well driven M3 could beat a c32.C32 have allot of top end, A pully kit upgrade will destroy M3's.and M5's
top speed of around 177 and 333hp to the wheels..
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Old May 22, 2003 | 02:47 PM
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In this thread I don't think anyone ever said the M3 was "well driven". It probably wasn't, ha ha. But who said the C32 was either.

That is the basis of the whole magazine time scenario anyway. The C32 numbers apparently are more repeatable, while the M3 must be a coupe, stick and also be "well driven" to win. As we see from the majority of the "kill stories" on the web, most C32s seem to take M3s with normal everyday drivers at the reins. Then we hear the gripe that the M3 wasn't "well driven". Remember some magazine racer dropped the clutch (in a car he didn't own) at 4000rpm to get that quick 0-60 time they printed. And they took the best of several passes.

So when an M3 lines up against a C32 sure it might win by a hair, the magazine numbers say it can, but the real world says it more likely will lose, check around. It becomes a simple matter of odds.

I think a C32/M3 race is pretty stupid, especially for the M3. Magazines say he is "supposed" to win but how does he feel when he doesn't?

BTW track times vary by track, conditions too, not just driver.
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Old May 22, 2003 | 02:52 PM
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Hmm....

Well a couple things:

1. Yes I have been in a C32 and driven one, and they are impressive.

2. "Destroy an M5" I'm sorry but I really doubt it! A well driven M5 will run 13 flat or high 12's in the 1/4 mile. Side by side on a freeway the M5 will take a C32 no problem, getting into triple digits is where the M5 succeeds!

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Old May 22, 2003 | 02:57 PM
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Cool

If you noticed I said C32 w/Pk will destroy M5
And it is true, Its all about who is driving and conditions.
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Old May 22, 2003 | 03:11 PM
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Yep...

rrf- You made some good points about on the street a C32 lining up against a M3 and usually the C32 will win because the M3 driver is just an average driver, and I agree with this. I beleive that a well driven M3 will beat a well driven C32 but most of the time on the street a C32 will beat a M3 because usually drivers don't know how to drive a 6 speed real well.

Vader13- I haven't been in a PK C32 so I have no idea how they pull? I will take your word that they pull well and will match up against an M5, but just can't imagine a C32 beating an M5 on the street in higher speeds (where the M5 succeeds), maybe because I own one!?:p

Vader13 I think we can come and agree that they are both awesome cars and there are so many aspects (weather, tires, driver etc.) when putting the cars up against eachother that finding out who is faster would be very very hard!

Thanks.
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Old May 22, 2003 | 05:40 PM
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Have you taken your M5 to the track to post some numbers yourself?
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Old May 22, 2003 | 06:10 PM
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Remember, the M3 comes in variables...C32 does not. Is there a C32 convertible?? No...there isn't.

BTW, the BMW M3 with SMGII can EASILY duplicate runs over and over again, as well as any automatic-equipped C32.

In fact, with Car & Driver review of SMG M3:

0-60 4.8 sec
0-100 11.6 sec
0-150 27.8 sec

1/4 mile 13.4 sec @ 107 mph
Top speed (governor limited) 155 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph 162 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad 0.89 g

And the good part is that the SMG can duplicate this result over and over again. All you need is a decent driver who knows how to use the SMG (which easy). And this can be done on any street USA.

Benzpower did a really nice job to get 13.6 sec in the 1/4 mile. That is pretty damn impressive!

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Old May 22, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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Jeez....

I was trying to close up this conversation in a nice way and come to a middle ground here but it seems that some of you didn't want that to happen!

Thai- An M3 SMG can acheive better times than what you posted by C&D. With a little bit of practice a driver could pull off 4.7 to 60 and the 1/4 in 13.3 flat or upper 13.2's, I think. You seem to think that getting 13.6 in a 1/4 mile in a C32 is a good time?!? I just don't see how that is that great (no disrespect to the driver). So what would be an OK- Average run for a C32, 13.8-13.9, come on you gotta be kiddin me!!

I am not gonna say an M3 is faster than a C32 in this thread anymore because it brings up a lot of arguments, which is understandable (we are in a C32 forum aren't we? :p )

E55Jay- No I haven't taken the M5 to the track or strip yet, but I will do that shortly I have only had it for a few months.

Thanks.
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Old May 22, 2003 | 07:05 PM
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Thanks for the reply, I would love to know how well she runs at the track, Iam a drag racing nut. Take that Cayenne there also that should be a hoot to drive...what mods on the M5 do you have?
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Old May 22, 2003 | 07:24 PM
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OF course the BMW will prevail ocassionally. Thai probably has the blown engine and horrible BMW service to prove it.
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Old May 22, 2003 | 08:31 PM
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Hey...

E55JAY- Yeah I can't wait to take the M5 to the track and strip myself! Also good idea to take the Cayenne, I think I will do that! I haven't had my M5 for very long so I don't have a pile of mods right now but below is what I have and what I'm planning.

Have Now:

-Dinan Exhaust
-Dinan Stage II Suspension
-Dinan Software
-Autosolutions Short Shift Kit
-Hardwired Valentine 1

Planning:

-Dinan Front and Rear Strut Tower Brace
-Dinan Cold Air Intake
-Stoptech Brakes (will put on after I see how the stocks do on track)
-HID 4 Less Full Headlight Upgrade (Highs, Lows, Fogs)
-ACS Pedals
-Upgraded Stereo (MB Quart speakers, JL Audio, etc. (nothing to heavy though ))

Also I think I am gonna thrash my Dunlops which came with the car and switch over to Michelin Pilots or S03's.

Thanks.
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Old May 23, 2003 | 08:50 AM
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Marko,

Uhhh, i wouldn't talk too much...Mercedes is NOT known to provide spectacular service either (it's not Lexus). In fact, quality & reliability on C-class has been far less than spectacular; many mags consider the BMW 3-series to be superior to C-class in quality and reliability.

BTW, the engine problem with M3 have been solved since early '02 (computer glitch).

You know the saying, "people in glass house shouldn't throw rocks." Or something like that.
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Old May 23, 2003 | 09:38 AM
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Sounds hot, I know that short shift kit made a world of difference...I have not had the chance to drive "the other beast" yet, although if my wallet could provide it would definitely be in the stable...post some pics here and I def want to see some pics of that Cayenne....Pilot Sports are stickier than snot
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