Replaced pads with EBC yellow stuff

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Sep 12, 2011 | 01:03 PM
  #1  
After cooking my pads and rotors at a track day event and doing a quick swap with another set of stock pads, my front rotors were totally glazed and cracked so I replaced my front rotors and went with EBC yellow stuff all the way around. What a difference in stopping power cold or hot. See the pics for the difference in surface area. Beware, they are noisy and dusty as one would expect from a race quality pad.

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Sep 12, 2011 | 01:33 PM
  #2  
I'm going to go with EBC redstuff pads after my stock ones are done, good choice though.
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Sep 12, 2011 | 01:44 PM
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I'm currently using redstuff and there is noticeable fade at the track. Even the redstuff pads have to be warmed up a bit before they start to work. I've asked around and talked to my fellow track buddies. They all seemed to have the same opinion on the yellowstuff. I was thinking of getting them as a replacement because I need something more aggressive. They said the yellowstuff has amazing bite once warmed up, but they overheat quickly and still have pretty bad fade. I wish HAWK made an application for our cars. Simply the best fade free pads I've ever used. I'm going to try porterfields next. No more EBC for me. I also used EBC red stuff on my SAAB. They literally exploded at the track when I ran them with R-compounds. I drove home from the track with exploded rear brake pads and had to replace my rotors. Pads were pretty new, had just finished breaking them in too. Let us know how the yellowstuffs are on the track if you decide to get them. Seems like most people who buy EBC have no other options. When I ask fellow drivers opinions about EBC at a track day, they all look at me funny and ask why I would consider EBC at all?

thanks,

Bry
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Sep 12, 2011 | 07:07 PM
  #4  
You really did cook your brakes, your calipers are gold from the heat. First time I've seen that on a C32.

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Sep 13, 2011 | 07:01 AM
  #5  
Quote: 1.I'm currently using redstuff and there is noticeable fade at the track. Even the redstuff pads have to be warmed up a bit before they start to work.
2.When I ask fellow drivers opinions about EBC at a track day, they all look at me funny and ask why I would consider EBC at all?

thanks,

Bry
1. I ran Redstuff on My C32 with NO fade what so ever The stock pads would last maybe 14-16 laps before going to the floor, while the Redstuff I could run for a FULL 30 minute session. As far as the warm up, I never saw a differnece from cold to hot, but then again everyone drives differently on the track and street

2. A few years back almost all of the local guys near me would use EBC yellow and blues, note this is at BEaverun and Nelson Ledges. Some still do, some have moved on to even MORE aggressive pads. What track were you at, as I am guessing it was Mosport?

Sorry, But I still use and REALLY like EBC red for street/occasional track.

Low dust, low fade, low cost
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Sep 13, 2011 | 12:31 PM
  #6  
So you guys are saying EBC red stuff is a great factory replacement?
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Sep 13, 2011 | 01:33 PM
  #7  
Quote: So you guys are saying EBC red stuff is a great factory replacement?
In a word Yes

Low dust
Better than stock performance, by far
No squealing, when bedded properly, aka follow directions.

If you do open track days, and do not mind some dust, yellows are a better choice. But they WILL dust and are NOT ceramic
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Sep 13, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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Quote: In a word Yes

Low dust
Better than stock performance, by far
No squealing, when bedded properly, aka follow directions.

If you do open track days, and do not mind some dust, yellows are a better choice. But they WILL dust and are NOT ceramic
Awesome, I'll buy them next when I need to change my brakes
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Sep 13, 2011 | 04:40 PM
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Quote: 1. I ran Redstuff on My C32 with NO fade what so ever The stock pads would last maybe 14-16 laps before going to the floor, while the Redstuff I could run for a FULL 30 minute session. As far as the warm up, I never saw a differnece from cold to hot, but then again everyone drives differently on the track and street

2. A few years back almost all of the local guys near me would use EBC yellow and blues, note this is at BEaverun and Nelson Ledges. Some still do, some have moved on to even MORE aggressive pads. What track were you at, as I am guessing it was Mosport?

Sorry, But I still use and REALLY like EBC red for street/occasional track.

Low dust, low fade, low cost
I've had better runs at mosport since you can obtain significant enough speeds to be able to cool your brakes properly. I overheat the pads at Shannonville where there are lots of tight slow speed turns. Even the back straight isn't that long. It all depends on the type of track. Mosport is all highspeed turns, so I find there is a lot less stress on tires/brakes. I'm a driver that's very heavy on the brakes and I always brake late. If you ever try a set of HAWK pads in HP+, I'm sure you will be impressed. EBC reds are decent, but I wouldn't classify them as track or even occasional track pads. Would be interested to see how yellowstuff works out.

Redstuff is more than adequate for the street, although better options exists for "other" cars. I would be more interested in a Porterfield vs. EBC comparison.
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Sep 14, 2011 | 06:41 AM
  #10  
Quote: I've had better runs at mosport since you can obtain significant enough speeds to be able to cool your brakes properly. I overheat the pads at Shannonville where there are lots of tight slow speed turns. Even the back straight isn't that long. It all depends on the type of track. Mosport is all highspeed turns, so I find there is a lot less stress on tires/brakes. I'm a driver that's very heavy on the brakes and I always brake late. If you ever try a set of HAWK pads in HP+, I'm sure you will be impressed. EBC reds are decent, but I wouldn't classify them as track or even occasional track pads. Would be interested to see how yellowstuff works out.

Redstuff is more than adequate for the street, although better options exists for "other" cars. I would be more interested in a Porterfield vs. EBC comparison.
Boy o boy, Shannonville, now you are really bringing back the memories

Okay, it IS a very tight track for sure, and VERY little passing room. Which configuration did you run?

I always liked the whole track, but the back track was also very fun as well.

Is there still the huge rout in turn one on the back track?

Okay, back on brakes. Porterfield have a WILD following in the Porsche group, and I have seen them work well in LIGHT cars, aka under 3400lbs. So for a C32 they are not a bad choice, but pricey.

Hawks are okay, but tend to eat rotors.

I don't know if they make them for the C32 but EBC Blues are VERY aggressive, aka NOT for street use.
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Sep 14, 2011 | 02:56 PM
  #11  
Been using EBC for awhile.. Others were skeptical but I'm extremely happy with the yellow stuff.
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Sep 14, 2011 | 07:03 PM
  #12  
Quote: You really did cook your brakes, your calipers are gold from the heat. First time I've seen that on a C32.

Yup 30 min session with repeating stop from 120 down to 40mph.
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Sep 14, 2011 | 07:06 PM
  #13  
Quote: I'm currently using redstuff and there is noticeable fade at the track. Even the redstuff pads have to be warmed up a bit before they start to work. I've asked around and talked to my fellow track buddies. They all seemed to have the same opinion on the yellowstuff. I was thinking of getting them as a replacement because I need something more aggressive. They said the yellowstuff has amazing bite once warmed up, but they overheat quickly and still have pretty bad fade. I wish HAWK made an application for our cars. Simply the best fade free pads I've ever used. I'm going to try porterfields next. No more EBC for me. I also used EBC red stuff on my SAAB. They literally exploded at the track when I ran them with R-compounds. I drove home from the track with exploded rear brake pads and had to replace my rotors. Pads were pretty new, had just finished breaking them in too. Let us know how the yellowstuffs are on the track if you decide to get them. Seems like most people who buy EBC have no other options. When I ask fellow drivers opinions about EBC at a track day, they all look at me funny and ask why I would consider EBC at all?

thanks,

Bry
I can't say I have seen exploded brake pads and I find it hard to believe that rears would do that considering they only do 25% of the work. Perhaps you had stuck calipers.

either way, check out this brake test by Car and Driver.
http://blog.caranddriver.com/perform...c-yellowstuff/

The SCCA instructors that rode with me all and people I work with at Autox don't necessarily endorse late braking unless you are trying to pass, you are better off on the brakes slightly early to get the car set up and on the throttle as soon as possible.
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