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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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Raced a Baby Lambo

Going to the office Wednesday, I am driving down legacy and stop in front of stonebrair. Guess what pulled out right next to me, an orange baby lambo with a old man driving. Well its pretty clear ahead so I down shifted into 1st and teased him alittle. Well he took the bait and we both hit it around 25 and went up to a little over 100. At first he just barely pulled me by a half car to 90 but I let out alittle before the slight curve at the top of the hill and he won by 2 cars.

Overall I a pretty happy. The lambo has over 450 horse but not much torque. In case you are wondering, I was in the C32 with 300rwhp.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 03:37 AM
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damn, not bad. is your C32 300rwhp stock or do you have slight mods?
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 07:59 AM
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Impossible! I raced with friend who owns baby lambo last month.
My car has 360 hp at the wheel. He pulled me by 3 cl from 50km to 140km.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by cscollis
Going to the office Wednesday, I am driving down legacy and stop in front of stonebrair. Guess what pulled out right next to me, an orange baby lambo with a old man driving. Well its pretty clear ahead so I down shifted into 1st and teased him alittle. Well he took the bait and we both hit it around 25 and went up to a little over 100. At first he just barely pulled me by a half car to 90 but I let out alittle before the slight curve at the top of the hill and he won by 2 cars.

Overall I a pretty happy. The lambo has over 450 horse but not much torque. In case you are wondering, I was in the C32 with 300rwhp.
exactly which lambo did you race?a gallardo?
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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exactly which lambo did you race?a gallardo?

First, my C32 dynoed 300 rwhp in 4th gear with just K&N filters on a mix of 104 octain and 93. Sort of shocked me. The other runs were 293 and 296 before I added the 3 gallons of 104 (temp was 68 and DA was a nice 200 feet). Correction factor was .99 so the actual rwhp was a little higher!

Pretty strong considering I ran a 8.48 at 85.93 in the 1/8th with a 1.89 60' (good track prep). Just put it in first and let it shift.

I raced a Gallardo. I have also raced a 911 turbo on the highway up to over 130 and was 2 or 3 cars back. I was pleasantly suprised by the outcome.

This is my every day driver so no real mods yet. If I did anything to my C32 it would be a electric exhaust cutout. Flip the switch and you have open headers!
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 02:53 PM
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This is my every day driver so no real mods yet. If I did anything to my C32 it would be a electric exhaust cutout. Flip the switch and you have open headers!
I had a question about those. I heard that when switched back to stock mode - the cutout can leak gases - which is good and bad depending on how you see it. Is this true?
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 03:00 PM
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I had a question about those. I heard that when switched back to stock mode - the cutout can leak gases - which is good and bad depending on how you see it. Is this true?
You will need alittle silicon around the cutout to ensure it seals properly.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 05:13 PM
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He probably wasn't really trying to race you. I've had 996TT and c32 is a minivan comparing to that rocket. I've never raced a Gallardo, but most of owners with baby lambo and 996 tt are saying that lambo is faster.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 05:16 PM
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c32 vs 996TT

I don't want to start a big war, but no offense, I think I can speak very directly in this case and there is NO WAY a near stock/stock C32 even comes close to a 996TT on a highway roll. The AMG cars are very fast at such races but the turbo is a monster.

I can't figure out how to post a picture, but I ran the C32 and 996TT with the same G-tech back to back and at 17 seconds when I let off the turbo was 200+ feet ahead of the Benz.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 05:24 PM
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another graph

This is wet road. C32 w/ brand new rears, 996 with rears to wear bars. C32 launched at about 1200 RPM (wet) and turbo straight from idle. I cannot find my saved run in the 996 in the dry w/ new tires and launch, but 1/4 was around 12.45, 0-60 4.2x. Note the C32 vs. 996 in the passing times columns. Even 30-50 and 60-80 which required shifts in the 996 are faster. If you tally up, 30-80 is 9.8 seconds vs 8.1 seconds. That's huge.

I'm not dissing the C32--I love it--but it has no chance against a turbo.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 06:39 PM
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I simply tell you how a race went and get out the Gtech? I was just suprised the C32 did as well as it does. Either the Lambo or TT996 will beat the C32 but thats why I have a low 11 sec vette that traps 120.

Tell me your TT996 will beat my vette, go ahead.

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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 07:49 PM
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no but i know a few mommy mobile audi B5 S4's that will pound that C5 of yours...

where is this going? if you cant tell ... this whole debate is pointless...

the c32 is not near a lambo, 996TT, modded C5.... bla bla bla

its a fast 4 door not a supercar
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 08:58 PM
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LOL! No need to get into a mine is bigger than yours contest. The point I was politely trying to make was that either or both the Gallardo and 996TT may have been messing with you. Heh, car choice really does often reflect the owner.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 09:41 PM
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I can tell you that the C32 will get an early jump on the Gallardo, unless the Lambo driver does a full launch. When I get into the C32 after the G, it feels very responsive around town - the Gallardo's high first gear means that this isn't its main game. For practical purposes, the C32 is quicker to 100 kph (62mph) - unless you are brutal with the Gallardo, the auto C32 hooks up better.

On the open road, the Gallardo shows a clean pair of heels to the C32 - as it should. But the C32 is no slouch, that's for sure.

Of course, not every car you take on will necessarily be trying as hard as you. In the Gallardo, there is no shortage of offers at the lights. It doesn't mean you take them all on.

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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 12:08 PM
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yeah definently, The lambo would destroy your C32/C55 anyday it has 500hp and alot of torque for its size and weight. No way the car was racing you.

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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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yeah definently, The lambo would destroy your C32/C55 anyday it has 500hp and alot of torque for its size and weight. No way the car was racing you.

You all seem to be forgetting the human factor. The Lambo with an expert driver is way faster than the C32 with any driver. With a poseur Lambo driver (especially with the 6 speed manual), however, who is unwilling to work his car hard, the C32 (or C55) has a hope of at least hanging in there.

The bottom line: What happens on graphs or Gtechs is alot different than what happens on the street. This forum is about actual races, not racing theory.

For the naysayers, your position seems to require that we believe one of two things. Either (1) CSCollis is lying about the race (which I doubt), or (2)The Lambo driver put his right foot 95% of the way to the floor, so as to purposely only beat the C32 by a small margin. This would seem to be unlikely.

How about option (3): The Lambo driver is some spoon-fed ninny who thought that his supercar would beat any lamearse sedan, even without shifting the Lambo out of 6th gear.
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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Lol!!!

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How about option (3): The Lambo driver is some spoon-fed ninny who thought that his supercar would beat any lamearse sedan, even without shifting the Lambo out of 6th gear.
or:
Option (4)... "ya mean 'R' does not engage 'racing' but rather 'reverse', Oh Crap!!!!"
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 05:04 PM
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HaHa, exactly my point Just because someone drives a $200K car, does not make him a $200K driver!
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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True but there isnt much he has to do it could have been E-gear the Lambo has tall gears anyway 60mph in first and close to 100 in second. Im sure he wasnt even racing just slightly gunned it for a sec and he thought the guy was going all out to beat him. Anyways good story but it was obviously not a race.

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You all seem to be forgetting the human factor. The Lambo with an expert driver is way faster than the C32 with any driver. With a poseur Lambo driver (especially with the 6 speed manual), however, who is unwilling to work his car hard, the C32 (or C55) has a hope of at least hanging in there.

The bottom line: What happens on graphs or Gtechs is alot different than what happens on the street. This forum is about actual races, not racing theory.

For the naysayers, your position seems to require that we believe one of two things. Either (1) CSCollis is lying about the race (which I doubt), or (2)The Lambo driver put his right foot 95% of the way to the floor, so as to purposely only beat the C32 by a small margin. This would seem to be unlikely.

How about option (3): The Lambo driver is some spoon-fed ninny who thought that his supercar would beat any lamearse sedan, even without shifting the Lambo out of 6th gear.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Fr0zen
True but there isnt much he has to do it could have been E-gear the Lambo has tall gears anyway 60mph in first and close to 100 in second. Im sure he wasnt even racing just slightly gunned it for a sec and he thought the guy was going all out to beat him. Anyways good story but it was obviously not a race.
Yes, it could have been an E gear (Lambo's version of an automatic), but it also could have been the 6 speed manual. I don't know which of the two that Lambo sold more of.

In any case, I fail to see how it is impossible for a car which some have run stock into the high twelve second range (the C32) to give a car which runs in the low twelve second range a good run, especially factoring in a manual tranny and a lame driver in the Lambo. I also note that Collis' car seems to be a strong example of a C32. Most are only putting down 280-290 RWHP.

All that I am saying is that, assuming a manual Lambo and a lame driver, the race could be close (at least for a short period, like Collis described).
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