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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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Speedybenz Suspension is Installed!

You own a W202, but don't know who speedybenz is? ...you really should... Especially if your car is already lowered or you plan on lowering it. Many people know him because they have his camber arms. Though I'm not sure how many know his entire suspension is custom.

* Jeff (speedybenz) was embarassing everything from race prepped M3s to race prepped Elises in his highly modified C43 this summer (read me).
* I flew out to take a ride in Jeff's car before I bought the suspension... here were my thoughts
* ... and I now have that suspension on my C43 converted to a C55 ... (thread here). ...ya, and it turns now too!

...just had to share, and give a little free publicity to the much deserving Speedybenz...

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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 01:36 AM
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yeah he's the man! i heard about his setup. wish to meet him in person one day to check out his car in person.
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 02:43 AM
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man you've almost got it all! power and suspension now time for some lightweight rims?
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 08:20 AM
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What did the full suspension set-up cost ?
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 09:03 AM
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Never mind.......found the thread in the "Performance" section.
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by KenzBenz
man you've almost got it all! power and suspension now time for some lightweight rims?
My thoughts exactly, it was discussed a little on the performance and tunning thread.

BTW, C55M80 thanks the the expaination on the other thread. It made perfect sense. Also, congrats on what you figured out that night with your wheels/tires. Very impressive and equally rewarding information.
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by NitrogenBalance
My thoughts exactly, it was discussed a little on the performance and tunning thread.

BTW, C55M80 thanks the the expaination on the other thread. It made perfect sense. Also, congrats on what you figured out that night with your wheels/tires. Very impressive and equally rewarding information.
It was discussed "only a little"? :p (just kid'n) It was my pleasure. (The only reason I didn't start a new thread on it is it seems mathematics related topics or "theory of racing" subjects other then 1/4 mile times or "who'd-ja kill" threads don't seem to draw too much interest on the board. ...even if the fact is shaving off just a couple of pounds off the tires is worth many times that in rim weight)
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 01:24 PM
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Are you going to bring the car to the 06' Northeast AMGfest this summer ?
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 01:38 PM
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Are you going to bring the car to the 06' Northeast AMGfest this summer ?
I was hoping to have a Smart by then and bring that...

Let me find some wood before I actually vocalize this... Will it be there? You bet, as long as I don't crack it up 1st!
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 10:49 AM
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Driving Impressions Here
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Good stuff Steve! Very good. If I had your $$ I'd burn mine though! I can see a race helmet and Lime Rock or Pocono in your future now.Your car will be the sickest MB anyone has ever seen on the track.Especially with the 5.5L motor. I'm scared that if I drive in your car ,I'm definitely going to want to spend the $$.It's a very tempting proposition even though I'm mostly into 1/4 mile racing. Don't do all that wrk for nothing,take that beast to the track now.

I am using the H&R's now which were a definite improvement over the eibach's, but I'm debating whether I'm going to S/C the M3 or the C55. By the way did Jeffrey M drive the car yet?

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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by c55m8o
* ... and I now have that suspension on my C43 converted to a C55 ... (thread here). ...ya, and it turns now too!
Err, woops...
CORRECTION:I just realized that was pointing off network ... This is the link to the same topic here on-network.

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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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Will Jeffs camber arms do anything for my application or is it only good for the W202?
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by coolcarlskiC43
I'm scared that if I drive in your car ,I'm definitely going to want to spend the $$.It's a very tempting proposition even though I'm mostly into 1/4 mile racing. Don't do all that wrk for nothing,take that beast to the track now.
What's up Carl. I'm going to get serious about getting involved in that this upcoming summer. BTW, this setup is =not= good for 1/4 mile passes. The rear is too stiff and inhibits the high weight transfer you want off the line. ...however, I'll also be experimenting with this suspension, and different springs. If I put the compression rate to minimum coupled with 500lb springs, that might just be what's needed on the 1/4 mile track. I'll see.

Na, too soon for Jeff to see it ... I just picked it up Monday night. It still needs to be sorted out too. Car's tending towards oversteer @ the moment, and my tires have little grip in this cold weather, so it won't live up to all it's capable of until it warms up, and I get to dial it in. (plus, car's slammed @ the moment ... suspension settled too much ... have to raise it up)

S/C the M3 or the C55...? why not both?!

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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JamE55
Will Jeffs camber arms do anything for my application or is it only good for the W202?
For which ... the Enzo, Mirage, SLR, Zonda, M6, Ruf, or E55 ? :p I learned it's suitable for CLKs yeasterday, but I don't know about E-classes (assuming you have a W210?).
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For which ... the Enzo, Mirage, SLR, Zonda, M6, Ruf, or E55 ? :p I learned it's suitable for CLKs yeasterday, but I don't know about E-classes (assuming you have a W210?).
Actually don't need that for those cars. :p It's for a 210 application. Do you know?
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Originally Posted by JamE55
Actually don't need that for those cars. :p It's for a 210 application. Do you know?
No I don't, but I'll ask on Jeff on Club202.com.
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No I don't, but I'll ask on Jeff on Club202.com.
Thanks. Pls let me know once you hear from him.
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Originally Posted by coolcarlskiC43
I am using the H&R's now which were a definite improvement over the eibach's
...do you still have the Eibachs? wondering the spring rates on them. If you have them, please post or PM me the numbers on the springs (only interested in the longer ones, for the rear). I'll look into if I could use it on the rear, if I ever want an extra soft spring for the 1/4 mile track. (amazing how a 600lb and 800lb spring is actually =compliant= with these shocks, but like speedybenz noted in the "impressions" thread, if you try to push down on the car you'll bend the steel before you move the spring)
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I believe I had the Eibach Prokit Steve.I sold them with the Koni's I had and never used. I'm guessing if we search this forum we might possibly find it.Can't say for sure.I'll chk though.

But DAMN,I can only imagine what all your mods will add up to on the track.Just sic! I think you'll be fine with your suspension in the1/4.These cars don't squat like a manual shift car anyway thanx to the tranny.The M3's have pretty stiff suspensions and plenty of guys bring them to the track.Especially some of George's (ICS) fleet of turbocharged M3's with modded suspensions that do both 1/4 mile duty and roadracing. I'm dying to see your car run at Pocono or Limerock.

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Thanks. Pls let me know once you hear from him.
james yes he has a camber kit for w210

i have one of his rear kits that i havn't installed yet from awhile ago.......will go on very soon
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james yes he has a camber kit for w210

i have one of his rear kits that i havn't installed yet from awhile ago.......will go on very soon
Alex,

Why did you get the rear kit only or does it matter for the front? I'd think it'd be for the front and rear kit. Also let me know what your impressions are. Does it lower the car more or how exactly does it work? How does this compare to a RennTech rear subframe or do you know?
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Thank you Alex. James, here's Jeff's response to me regarding what information he needs from you:
Yes the Camber Arms will fit W210 and W211. I have made some 30 Camber Arm kits for W210's.

I just ned to know what year and engine size.
To Contact Jeff, Click Me.
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Why did you get the rear kit only or does it matter for the front?
I believe fronts are done only via the Alignment Camber Bolts you can get from Mercedes. Anyone jump in if I'm wrong.
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Thank you Alex. James, here's Jeff's response to me regarding what information he needs from you:To Contact Jeff, Click Me.
Thanks bro! I'll give him a call to get some info.
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