Suspension Brand C36 C43 models
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Suspension Brand C36 C43 models
Hello guys, I would like to know what brand is the suspension that the C36 /43 amg w202 models are wearing. Is it AMG as well or other? Do you know where can i get it? (Europe)? Ive looked for amg suspensions but i cant find any 
.Please enlighten me on the subject. Thanks a lot.
.Please enlighten me on the subject. Thanks a lot.
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Blistene. I've heard some say the AMG-branded Blistenes have different valving from the ones you'd buy off the shelf. I can't speak for it's accuracy; just repeating what I heard to spur on a conversation and hear from one who knows for sure.
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Originally Posted by NEA-4311
Hello guys, I would like to know what brand is the suspension that the C36 /43 amg w202 models are wearing. Is it AMG as well or other? Do you know where can i get it? (Europe)? Ive looked for amg suspensions but i cant find any .Please enlighten me on the subject. Thanks a lot.
.Please enlighten me on the subject. Thanks a lot.Join they are a great bunch.
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Don't mean to hi-jack this thread from you. I look under and they are bilsteins. What I would like to know which Bilsteins HD or Sports?
My front is bottoming out and I'm about to replaced the shocks with Bilsteins Sports aftermarket. Just wanted to make that I'm getting the right set of shocks and hope not to bottom-out.
Thanks in advance.
-Adrian
My front is bottoming out and I'm about to replaced the shocks with Bilsteins Sports aftermarket. Just wanted to make that I'm getting the right set of shocks and hope not to bottom-out.
Thanks in advance.
-Adrian
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Did you try calling the stealership to see if they could give you a part number? Some people in this forum are very good at coming up with part numbers, not sure how, but they coudl probably get that for you and you could work backwards.
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Originally Posted by O's///C43
My front is bottoming out and I'm about to replaced the shocks with Bilsteins Sports aftermarket. Just wanted to make that I'm getting the right set of shocks and hope not to bottom-out.
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This is often more a matter of the springs reaching full compression than the shocks not being firm enough.
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Guys - the car is lowered with H&R springs. The shocks are AMG branded Bilsteins. The stealership just replaced the front shocks due to leak so, the front shocks are about 6 months old.
Having said this, would you consider a different set of springs perhaps? or get new aftermarket bilstein, konis, etc.? This is one of the reason I would like to due my dilegence before spending 4bills on shocks.
TIA!
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Having said this, would you consider a different set of springs perhaps? or get new aftermarket bilstein, konis, etc.? This is one of the reason I would like to due my dilegence before spending 4bills on shocks.
TIA!
-A
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just an fyi... i have only 25k on the car, and the suspension can be bottomed out if u are cornering on a long sweeping turn and there is a bit of elevation change midturn.
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Steve - I bottom out on freeways (especially hitting a major bumps, holes, etc.). For some reason cornering is not an issue on my car. I almost want to pull the trigger and buy a stiffer shocks. I really need help
-Adrian
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AMG went to a lot of work to come up with the very best suspensions for their cars. There are obviously a lot of trade-offs in the design stage and and when the initial road testing work is done. They try and provide sporty yet versatile performance without suffering the penalties of a race car tackling everyday roads.
If it was my car and I was experiencing the problems described, I would change everything back to stock AMG parts and settings. I've also read somewhere that the AMG Bilsteins for the C36/43 have equal ratio valves and are not available directly from Bilsteins. They need to ordered from Mercedes, but as I said, that's only from what I've read on the forums.
My C36 suspension is stock and I have absolutely no problems with it. But then again I treat my car like a baby!
If it was my car and I was experiencing the problems described, I would change everything back to stock AMG parts and settings. I've also read somewhere that the AMG Bilsteins for the C36/43 have equal ratio valves and are not available directly from Bilsteins. They need to ordered from Mercedes, but as I said, that's only from what I've read on the forums.
My C36 suspension is stock and I have absolutely no problems with it. But then again I treat my car like a baby!
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Originally Posted by O's///C43
Steve - I bottom out on freeways (especially hitting a major bumps, holes, etc.). For some reason cornering is not an issue on my car. I almost want to pull the trigger and buy a stiffer shocks. I really need help
-Adrian
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My friend who is a master mechanic for MB here in NY says that the H&R setup and Eibach setup with Bilstein's is junk.
I blew out my Drivers side fender with my present H&R bilstein setup. My mechanic recommends taking the stck C43 AMG spring and cutting it.
It has done wonders on my friends C43 which use to have eibach's and the handling,looks and ride have been suprisingly better to both of us .
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CoolCarl: How much does he recommend cutting out of the stock spring? (i.e., 1 coil, 1/2" of 1 coil, etc.). By the way, your C43 looks awesome...and I bet it drives awesome with the 5.5 liter engine! Now that I know what suspension you are running, did you also upgrade to 18" wheels from another AMG model?
Other than cutting the stock coil, what other decent riding suspension options would you guys recommend for a daily driver?
Just so you guys know, this is my first post and I'm coming over from the dark side. My prior car was a heavily modified '95 E36 M3 w/ Adjustable Konis and Eibach springs with poly bushings everywhere and, to be honest, the everyday ride is punishing. But, it was set up to be a track car.
Really looking forward to picking up my new (well, new to me) C43 later today but have to admit it looks like a SUV with all of the gap between the fender and tire.
Other than cutting the stock coil, what other decent riding suspension options would you guys recommend for a daily driver?
Just so you guys know, this is my first post and I'm coming over from the dark side. My prior car was a heavily modified '95 E36 M3 w/ Adjustable Konis and Eibach springs with poly bushings everywhere and, to be honest, the everyday ride is punishing. But, it was set up to be a track car.
Really looking forward to picking up my new (well, new to me) C43 later today but have to admit it looks like a SUV with all of the gap between the fender and tire.
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Originally Posted by Q-Ship
Just so you guys know, this is my first post and I'm coming over from the dark side. My prior car was a heavily modified '95 E36 M3 w/ Adjustable Konis and Eibach springs with poly bushings everywhere and, to be honest, the everyday ride is punishing. But, it was set up to be a track car.
BTW, the problem with typical (I don't want to say 'all') sport suspension is it's a single valving for both compression and rebound. Even the Koni Adjustables that can adjust the shock's flow rate (but only when the shocks are off the car I understand) are single valving rates for both compression and rebound. Just an FYI for those equating 'racing suspension' with a punishing ride -- that being fully customizable shocks that have 2 or 3 or 4 independant adjustment capabilities for compression & rebound, fast rate and/or slow rate for the 3 & 4 way ones respectively -- you can't be further from the truth.
The Penskes I have now are a much more supple and forgiving ride then the stock AMG shocks, since the compression control rate is independent from the rebound controll rate and I can 'dial it down' for everyday and 'dial it up' whenever I want or need ; plus the digressive/digressive nature just works 'better' in those shocks then the AMG ones. So just an FYI ... if you're willing to pay, you get incredible satisfaction when you play. You folks definitely have to stop thinking racing shocks [as opposed to sport shocks] means 'punishing'.
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Here's a good thread with smoe comparison pics of springs: https://mbworld.org/forums/wheels-tires-suspension-brakes-forum/81409-vogtland-brabus-out.html
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Originally Posted by OzC36
My C36 suspension is stock and I have absolutely no problems with it. But then again I treat my car like a baby!
I had used Seville we got with 15K miles over 5 easy years at my wife's Grandfather's hands. Within a few years with me at the helm parts were falling off on both the interior and exterior.
....the Jeep is holding up quite well too.
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Originally Posted by Q-Ship
CoolCarl: How much does he recommend cutting out of the stock spring? (i.e., 1 coil, 1/2" of 1 coil, etc.). By the way, your C43 looks awesome...and I bet it drives awesome with the 5.5 liter engine! Now that I know what suspension you are running, did you also upgrade to 18" wheels from another AMG model?
Other than cutting the stock coil, what other decent riding suspension options would you guys recommend for a daily driver?
Just so you guys know, this is my first post and I'm coming over from the dark side. My prior car was a heavily modified '95 E36 M3 w/ Adjustable Konis and Eibach springs with poly bushings everywhere and, to be honest, the everyday ride is punishing. But, it was set up to be a track car.
Really looking forward to picking up my new (well, new to me) C43 later today but have to admit it looks like a SUV with all of the gap between the fender and tire.
Other than cutting the stock coil, what other decent riding suspension options would you guys recommend for a daily driver?
Just so you guys know, this is my first post and I'm coming over from the dark side. My prior car was a heavily modified '95 E36 M3 w/ Adjustable Konis and Eibach springs with poly bushings everywhere and, to be honest, the everyday ride is punishing. But, it was set up to be a track car.
Really looking forward to picking up my new (well, new to me) C43 later today but have to admit it looks like a SUV with all of the gap between the fender and tire.
I wish I had Steve's $$ though because he has the ultimate handling 5.5L C43.
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I'm more confused more than ever 
I have the same question.
CoolCarl: How much does he recommend cutting out of the stock spring? (i.e., 1 coil, 1/2" of 1 coil, etc.).
Other than cutting the stock coil, what other decent riding suspension options would you guys recommend for a daily driver?
Other than cutting the stock coil, what other decent riding suspension options would you guys recommend for a daily driver?
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Originally Posted by O's///C43
I'm more confused more than ever
I have the same question.
I have the same question.
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u could try different spring pads. mb has like 5 different thicknesses that are all interchangeable. my c36 has like the highest/thickest from factory, and the car sometimes looks like it's on stilts... put it next to a stock c280, it's sometimes higher. u could opt for the thinnest pads with the stock springs and see how it looks if u just wanna have looks.
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Wow! Some high quality posts backed by an obvious wealth of experience on this subject especially from c55m8o and coolcarlskiC43.
It'll be interesting to see if the stock C43 AMG spring fixes the problem by cutting it as recommended by carl or by installing different spring pads as recommended by steve.
If that doesn't work, then O's///C43's six month old AMG branded Bilsteins will be looking for a new home.
It'll be interesting to see if the stock C43 AMG spring fixes the problem by cutting it as recommended by carl or by installing different spring pads as recommended by steve.
If that doesn't work, then O's///C43's six month old AMG branded Bilsteins will be looking for a new home.
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Originally Posted by steve s
u could try different spring pads. mb has like 5 different thicknesses that are all interchangeable. my c36 has like the highest/thickest from factory, and the car sometimes looks like it's on stilts... put it next to a stock c280, it's sometimes higher. u could opt for the thinnest pads with the stock springs and see how it looks if u just wanna have looks.
PS That Wagon sounds sic.I've always loved the T5.
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If you're intent on finding the perfect setup I'd suggest getting a good spring compressor. I've been able to test many different setups within minutes that would otherwise cost a lot of money. Swapping spring pads is a breeze and the dealer will actually take them back if they are the wrong ones for your taste. My wife wanted the E430 lowered but she found that she didn't like the stiffer springs and shocks, so 30 minutes later we had the stock springs back on with #1 pads and she's happy with it. To go through this elsewhere would have been costly and slow.
