MBHustla858

im comin from a M3 lowered 2.5inches w/ coilovers....... i want a set up where the 18/19in wheels fill up all the arch, what kinda setup am i looking for??? is there any available swaybars for this thing?

tia

SDR

I'd say 2.5" is a bot extreme for a C43 unless you want the wheels tucked. In addition to the springs, of which there are numerous brands, there is the spring pad which adjusts ride height by up to 24mm if I recall correctly.
There's a ton of detail in here about lowering and spring/shock combos. The adjustable shocks are a great investment as is a good spring compressor if you are serious about finding the right combination for yourself I'm tweaking the E430 right now and have been through three sets of spring pads just trying to fine tune the ride height. Without the compressor I'd have spent hundreds at the shop.

Here's a great thread with pics of some of the setups: https://mbworld.org/forums/c36-amg-c43-amg-w202/81893-c43-vogtland-springs-carlsson-1-5-a.html

Vardar

Stock is waaay good enough, don't ruin your car with money you earn

steve s

what do u have? any old w202 or a c36/c43? the amg models enable u to fit larger rims without much trouble.

FrankW

best setup for the W202 would be H&R/Bilstein sport for the. The stock AMG suspension is not that good. If you don't want to change the shocks, just by changing the springs would give you a better handling edge.

c55m8o

Sorry, I'm biased...
Clickie my link in my sig ... "Speedybenz Custom Suspension". There are pics of the install if you click the pic in my sig and go to the shop pix gallery. The Pensky 8100 shocks are extremely flexible; you might know of people with BMWs or other cars that run them as they could be run as coilovers with hardware (note the threaded body); every single part on and in the shock is customizable and field replaceable. Jeff (speedybenz) spent a long long time R&D'ing the right valving to work with the C43's suspension. Cost is around $5500 for the complete kit.

- A write-up from me after I flew to NorCal to drive with Jeff before buying the suspension: The Ultimate Canyon Carver - Handling Nirvana:
http://www.club202.com/forums/showth...&threadid=5953
- Article about Jeff: Who Is Speedybenz? :
http://www.club202.com/forums/showth...&threadid=6948

MBHustla858 , where you located.

c55m8o

...well that shut everyone up... [???]

Vardar

Like I said; best suspension is stock. If what you said was better, AMG would have sold the cars with them. I personally am a stock person, can you tell?


If you are a pro racer, than use the $10000 set up.

Teck

Actually Brabus makes good springs for the C43. The AMg setup is not bad but there are better ones

Vardar

Honestly, you can argue about everything but taste. I drove regular cars like Saab 9-5, Jeep Cherokee, and etc.... This C43 is the best vahicle I owned so far. I don't race, I don't drive like maniac. Original AMG setup is absolutely perfect for me. So, what will happen if I spend $5000 for new suspension? What am I gonna gain? Take corners better? Handle better? What's wrong with what AMG factory came up with? You wanna lower the car? You want better handling? Than buy a used Porsche or Ferrari, so you don't have to spend xtra money on accessories like shocks..



That's the way I feel about mods. Just because I had xtra money in one of my credit cars, I wanted to give a Stage 1 shot for my Saab 9-5, I bought a $900 programmer that raised the HP by +65HP, and then what, when I traded in with ths C43, Dealer didn't give a crap. It sucked!

No offense to ANYONE! That was my 2 cents about shocks and lowering.....

NitrogenBalance

Not exactly, our cars would have been better with a manual or tiptronic option...they weren't(sub00'). They would have been better with two piece light weight crossdrilled rotors...they weren't. There are tons of things on which you could improve with AMG. Not saying they're crap but a company has to make $$ and set a certain price bracket for a model also. With that said, there is a reason some parts designs are only so so. So you can't simply say stock is best....it clearly isn't. It may be best for you, but maybe not for the task at hand(ex. track worthy suspension).

I purchased H&R's and Bilstein sports....gotta order some speedybenz camber arms before I start the install. Good luck.

Teck

Ok I love to drive fast but I also like how it looks if a car is lowered. Maybe I change my mind if I get older but for the moment I just love it. You don't have to spend x-thousand $ for other shocks, springs etc, just do a good setup for a normal price IMO


Here you're right for more than 100%. Dealers don't care if you lowered your car or not but if they sell it, then and trust me, at this time it counts twice if you lowered it or not!

Finally everyone should do whatever he/she wants b/c this is a hobby, a pashion which is individual

c55m8o

Lol... that's ok. You're entitled to your opinion. But I ran my car with the 'lift kit' stock suspension for 6 1/2 years [happy with a similar, though less unyielding, view as you for I'd say about four] and I'll offer mine.

You just have to be an enthusiest to appreciate it. Though this suspension is true racing parts, it amazingly is -=so=- much more drivable and pleasing on the roads then stock or any other aftermarket suspension kit. Anyone who thinks 'racing suspension' means 'beat you up in the seat' with rock hard suspension having no compliance could not be further from the trueth.

With the separately adjustable compression from rebound adjustment, we can run a low & compliant compression adjustment rate and very high rebound rate to allow for both great onroad manners to road irregularities, but control the springs like no other on rebound. [you would -never- know I'm running 950lb/in springs up front] Yet with quick response to road irregularities, the dual digressive/digressive valving does its thing like the stock AMG suspension too to counteract slow frequency motion of the suspension.

The stock suspension like all others is a compromise with its single valving rate; it's too stiff/hard on road irregularities, and not stiff enough on wheel rebound. Trust me, I know; the stock suspension beats you up more then this suspension. As Jeff had put it once about this kit. It's amazing how if you try to push down on the car to compress the suspension, you might bend the steel of the body before you move the car, but on the road it just soaks up the irregularities and keeps the wheels on the ground like no other.

Vardar

LOL! Wow, everything you said is French to me. Good luck with your upgrades. Like I said, no offense to anyone, I like my car stock. I am already an enthusiast (sorry if I misspelled it)about this car. I will not ruin(my opinion) the wehicle by lowering it or adding supercharger, replacing with bigger engine. It's like having your lady getting fake **** to me while she has absolutely perfect ones......

sinister

I don't care for suspension mods either. **** thing was funny though

Teck

Please no discussion about *****

C43silver

After driving a few other cars I would say the C43s Biggest downfall is the suspension. I can almost live with getting my *** handed to me by other newer cars, but ripping around turns is somthing I actualy enjoy by myself so if I keep the car suspension has to be changed.

VAamg

What other newer cars are handing your *** to you?

Vardar

Come on man! Drive a C280, and drive the C43AMG, you'll see the difference between suspensions. You guys are exaggerating a LITTLE BIT. How many times you race your 4 door sports sedan with other cars to see the difference on suspension without getting caught by a cop? Come On!

You guys might as well weld the shocks to the chassis or something and just drive a solid rock. Biggest downfall huh? I guess your other cars are Ferrari, and Lamborgini.

No offense hehehehehehehehe

C43silver

No I cant see the dirrefnece because the c280 sport I have driven handles the same from what I could tell anyway. Also people with Ferraris and Lambos end up doing suspension work from time to time so i dont see that point either.

DB79

I drive hard and the majority of my cars these days are 4 door sport sedans. For the average person that does not push the limits of their car the stock AMG suspension should be fine, but for the rest of us a better performing suspension is needed. I'm not talking about just slamming the car to the ground like a ricer, but adding a specific combination of parts to acquire the perfect balance between ride height and handling. Just because a part has AMG stamped on it doesn't make it the top performing piece that can't use improvements.

Vardar

Very well said! I don't drive my car hard at all(well, sometimes i floor of course), I am not rich. I will enjoy this gorgeous car as long as I can afford it. Before I bought this car I read a lot of professional reviews. Most reviews point out about the SLEEPER effect on this car. That's what I love. It looks like a cute family car until someone provokes you with their Corvette, or some sports car. The surprise effect is absolutely wonderful! I'll keep it that way.

Vardar

Great! You didn't respond to this, I cannot wait to read it: "How many times you race your 4 door sports sedan with other cars to see the difference on suspension without getting caught by a cop?"

DB79

Thanks...Everyone views and uses their cars for diffenent things. I'm one of the ones that always needs to improve on what the car were manufactured with. Suspension has been and always will be the first mod that is done to all my cars, excpet for one up to this point. That's because suspension mods will disable the DRC. After the car is capable of safely handling higher speeds more power is applied to it. Even if I owned a Ferrari, I already have a list of things that I would do to it. Some might think I'm , but the others know exactly where I'm coming from.

Chappy

The roads in North Georgia beg for a quality sport suspension. I had two SLK55s following me for a good part of the twisty sections on the four-hour jaunt....we were only running 7/10 or 8/10ths. Anything more that that and the Speedybenz setup would be an asset.