ANYONE FOR A 2005 E55 ENGINE?
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Price is a little high considering the engine has 45k miles on it...
I just don't see why anyone would want to do that when you can buy the whole 2003 E55 for $26,000 nowadays
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...=p4506.c0.m245
I just don't see why anyone would want to do that when you can buy the whole 2003 E55 for $26,000 nowadays
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...=p4506.c0.m245
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Good point, it might give you more power but your top speed is gear limited, which will still be an issue if you don't use some sort of crazy custom transmission. This motor should at least fit in a C43, as I have seen a picture of one before (not sure if it was operational, but it was sitting in it) FS in England if my memory serves me correctly. How much work it took to get it there (thinking of blower clearance here w/ the hood), and electronic trickery? That would be anyone's guess I'd imagine. That said, this motor in a w202 or w208 would be an incredible beast, even if it didn't break 200 mph!
09-02-2008, 10:39 PM
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Why is what Z06EATER said controversial? The '03 is a NA engine... '05 is a FI engine making a sh*t load more power... Of course, those top speeds ain't totally correct because as FLYNAVY explains the C43 gearing is midrange and FI E is super long giving the top speed, but idea is right.
And No, it doesn't work in a C43 unless you're willing to go stand-alone... or rip out all of your existing wiring, and sensors, and fuel system, and ignition system, and ECUs, and, and, and.... and replace it all w/that of the FI E or similar; essentially making your vehicle an '05 E hiding inside an old W202 C body!
...it's fun ta dream, ya... but take it from a guy that put about $25K into his car. It's like having a boat. Don't do it unless you'll never be sorry for the ridiculous depreciation you'll have to eat on the money you sink into those insane modz.
And No, it doesn't work in a C43 unless you're willing to go stand-alone... or rip out all of your existing wiring, and sensors, and fuel system, and ignition system, and ECUs, and, and, and.... and replace it all w/that of the FI E or similar; essentially making your vehicle an '05 E hiding inside an old W202 C body!
...it's fun ta dream, ya... but take it from a guy that put about $25K into his car. It's like having a boat. Don't do it unless you'll never be sorry for the ridiculous depreciation you'll have to eat on the money you sink into those insane modz.
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thanks gentlemen, well if we talk stock or stock, i believe the power is the same, as where gearing is concerned i believe the 03's speedo says 160, and the 04 and up is marked up pulling 200mph. gearing is a bit longer in the new ones...
09-03-2008, 06:34 AM
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The first W211 E55 came out in 2k3. Same motor as a 2k5,both S/C same HP. The gearing in all of the trannies used on the M113 motors is the same. Just that the stck F/I cars have stronger internals in their trannies and I believe bolt up differently.
The W211 E55 I believe has a 2.63 rear diff ratio comprared to 2.82 in the W210 E55 which is N/A.
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There is a guy over on one of the e46 boards that essentially did what c55 was talking about. He swapped an entire body wiring harness w/ all computers and sensors from an e46 M3 into an e30 325is. Of course the kid was an MIT engineering grad, and worked in the electrical engineering industry, but hey, it can be done!
09-03-2008, 10:23 AM
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Why is what Z06EATER said controversial? The '03 is a NA engine... '05 is a FI engine making a sh*t load more power... Of course, those top speeds ain't totally correct because as FLYNAVY explains the C43 gearing is midrange and FI E is super long giving the top speed, but idea is right.
And No, it doesn't work in a C43 unless you're willing to go stand-alone... or rip out all of your existing wiring, and sensors, and fuel system, and ignition system, and ECUs, and, and, and.... and replace it all w/that of the FI E or similar; essentially making your vehicle an '05 E hiding inside an old W202 C body!
...it's fun ta dream, ya... but take it from a guy that put about $25K into his car. It's like having a boat. Don't do it unless you'll never be sorry for the ridiculous depreciation you'll have to eat on the money you sink into those insane modz.
And No, it doesn't work in a C43 unless you're willing to go stand-alone... or rip out all of your existing wiring, and sensors, and fuel system, and ignition system, and ECUs, and, and, and.... and replace it all w/that of the FI E or similar; essentially making your vehicle an '05 E hiding inside an old W202 C body!
...it's fun ta dream, ya... but take it from a guy that put about $25K into his car. It's like having a boat. Don't do it unless you'll never be sorry for the ridiculous depreciation you'll have to eat on the money you sink into those insane modz.
2003 was the 1st year of the Kompressors!
09-03-2008, 10:25 AM
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They have different speedometers. Has nothing to do with the motors, the gearing, or the factory speed limiter. That's why I asked the question. MB went from a 160 mph speedometer to a 200 mph speedometer. The engines are the same in all years with slight changes to the intercooler pump and supercharger clutches.
09-03-2008, 10:26 AM
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2003-2004 have the 160mph speedo's and 2005 and up have the 200mph speedo's!
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sounds like airplane
Sure thing, all I am saying is that the w211 E55 is not good for 200+ mph w/o some modding. Is that not correct? If this is indeed the case, then I don't see how it would be different for a w202 chassis. Yes it is somewhat lighter, but the gearing would be the same as the 211 if it were swapped over. The difference would be in how it pulls in gear, so you would just have shorter pulls through each gear, and better acceleration w/ the benefit of being more lightweight. Also, speedometer range isn't really a reliable way of determining what a car's top speed is.
There is a guy over on one of the e46 boards that essentially did what c55 was talking about. He swapped an entire body wiring harness w/ all computers and sensors from an e46 M3 into an e30 325is. Of course the kid was an MIT engineering grad, and worked in the electrical engineering industry, but hey, it can be done!
There is a guy over on one of the e46 boards that essentially did what c55 was talking about. He swapped an entire body wiring harness w/ all computers and sensors from an e46 M3 into an e30 325is. Of course the kid was an MIT engineering grad, and worked in the electrical engineering industry, but hey, it can be done!
this has been done dozens of times...
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sounds like airplane
i mean the bmw swap mentioned above- sorry to get your hopes up!
what's up with the transmission situation? i know there are changes from the C43 trannies- but i know we can swap in upgraded ones (newer ones). If the tranny will work we could probably run stock ECU if you were willing to get it dyno tuned etc. etc. and play around with some other stuff.
what's up with the transmission situation? i know there are changes from the C43 trannies- but i know we can swap in upgraded ones (newer ones). If the tranny will work we could probably run stock ECU if you were willing to get it dyno tuned etc. etc. and play around with some other stuff.
09-04-2008, 09:21 AM
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