Supercharged C43 for sale - UK
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2000 C43 Wagon
Supercharged C43 for sale - UK
Just spotted this on ebay. It's a low mileage UK RHD car - could be a simple way to get beemer-bashing performance and killer sounds at a stroke..... Just a shame it's not a wagon....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mercedes-C43-A...d=p3286.c0.m14
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mercedes-C43-A...d=p3286.c0.m14
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sounds like airplane
would love to see more pictures and what they did for tuning.
looks "interesting", i had much higher hopes after reading the description for the overall "look" both of the engine work and the rest
looks "interesting", i had much higher hopes after reading the description for the overall "look" both of the engine work and the rest
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I think it looks like a pretty clean kit in terms of parts and such. Probably a little more sound than the HPS engineered kits. Seems pretty simple and I like the use of the CLK airbox. I want to find out more on this kit. If it was powdercoated black it would look pretty nice under there. The M112 is nice wedged onto the 4.3, but whats odd is that the Gen1 kit that three 4.3's posting here have will make about the same power with a couple tweaks using a smaller MP90 blower and no cooling...
I'm starting to think that a huge benefit of the sidemount setup is retaining the AMG engineered variable intake manifold.
Cool system none the less, wonder why I've never seen one.
I'm starting to think that a huge benefit of the sidemount setup is retaining the AMG engineered variable intake manifold. Cool system none the less, wonder why I've never seen one.
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It would be an interesting setup for the 5.5 engine. As we all know Mario's HPS was clearly running out of steam and an upgrade to the m112 would have probably benefited him. The mp90 appears to be just about the right size for the 4.3 and the m112 is better suited for the 5.5 so maybe the m112 on the 4.3 just requires more HP to spin without much added performance.
BTW on birds site it claims 490 HP for the 5.5 setup.
I wonder what this supercharger setup would do with some SLR top mount style intercoolers on the side instead of those E55K style fabricated plenum's.
Edit: It appears they may be liquid to air intercoolers. Looks like hoses running out of them. Hard to tell from the small pictures.
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It would be an interesting setup for the 5.5 engine. As we all know Mario's HPS was clearly running out of steam and an upgrade to the m112 would have probably benefited him. The mp90 appears to be just about the right size for the 4.3 and the m112 is better suited for the 5.5 so maybe the m112 on the 4.3 just requires more HP to spin without much added performance.
BTW on birds site it claims 490 HP for the 5.5 setup.
I wonder what this supercharger setup would do with some SLR top mount style intercoolers on the side instead of those E55K style fabricated plenum's.
Edit: It appears they may be liquid to air intercoolers. Looks like hoses running out of them. Hard to tell from the small pictures.
BTW on birds site it claims 490 HP for the 5.5 setup.
I wonder what this supercharger setup would do with some SLR top mount style intercoolers on the side instead of those E55K style fabricated plenum's.
Edit: It appears they may be liquid to air intercoolers. Looks like hoses running out of them. Hard to tell from the small pictures.
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I always figured it was the terrible 90° corners they designed. Perhaps it was the removal of the MB variable length intake that hurt it. I never thought of that. Of course the Kleemann kit removed the factory mani and it performs well. Tech-Tune seemed to have worked out some of the problems of the Gen2 HPS but I never inquired as to what he had to change. It would be interesting to know.
10psi is enlightening. Richard023 said he fried a piston when he went to 10psi on his 430. I wonder what birds does to keep it safe or perhaps what Richard did to make it not safe?
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sounds like airplane
from reading the listing it sounds like this car may have had some problems handling the boost as well.
it does look like/sound like they are running an air-water set-up- interesting...
Eaton's information for the chargers straight up recommends the 90 for a 4.2 and the 112 for a 5.4.
i'm not going to lie that i've been looking at trying to fit a 112 on my car. You can source a 112 for less than paying steigemeier to mess with my 90.
Wes- what exactly did steigemeier tell you? I can't get them to give me a real quote, they just say they'll "look" at it.
it does look like/sound like they are running an air-water set-up- interesting...
Eaton's information for the chargers straight up recommends the 90 for a 4.2 and the 112 for a 5.4.
i'm not going to lie that i've been looking at trying to fit a 112 on my car. You can source a 112 for less than paying steigemeier to mess with my 90.
Wes- what exactly did steigemeier tell you? I can't get them to give me a real quote, they just say they'll "look" at it.
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Both kleemann and renntech figured out an effective way of removing the intake mani and redesigning their own. Both making a safe 150+hp well under 10psi. Seems HPS may have fell short here, and I would imagine it would be one of the more challenging and scientific aspects of the design. I believe techtune did modify some aspect of the airstream but not 100% sure. I do like the idea of retaining the variable intake mani design on the gen1. I would heavily consider a vortech side mount if I was to do it again.
I contacted and wrote back and forth with them through their open forum question section. In fact I got quotes on price and time for a couple different options. This was months ago though.....
Seems this setup may be an intermediate between HPS2 and the proven Kleemann/Renntech setups.
I contacted and wrote back and forth with them through their open forum question section. In fact I got quotes on price and time for a couple different options. This was months ago though.....
Seems this setup may be an intermediate between HPS2 and the proven Kleemann/Renntech setups.
from reading the listing it sounds like this car may have had some problems handling the boost as well.
it does look like/sound like they are running an air-water set-up- interesting...
Eaton's information for the chargers straight up recommends the 90 for a 4.2 and the 112 for a 5.4.
i'm not going to lie that i've been looking at trying to fit a 112 on my car. You can source a 112 for less than paying steigemeier to mess with my 90.
Wes- what exactly did steigemeier tell you? I can't get them to give me a real quote, they just say they'll "look" at it.
it does look like/sound like they are running an air-water set-up- interesting...
Eaton's information for the chargers straight up recommends the 90 for a 4.2 and the 112 for a 5.4.
i'm not going to lie that i've been looking at trying to fit a 112 on my car. You can source a 112 for less than paying steigemeier to mess with my 90.
Wes- what exactly did steigemeier tell you? I can't get them to give me a real quote, they just say they'll "look" at it.
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sounds like airplane
with the kind of power we've shown at 4.5-5 psi it seems that 150+ should be possible with side mount/stock intake mani and <10 psi. I had never really considered the "design" aspects of the various manifolds until this thread- since the only kit in my budget used the stock one.
As we know the cars are FAST as they are now relative to the traction etc., which is why i'm still strongly considering nitrous. I feel like it's a way to possibly dip into 11s type acceleration (once the car is moving) without much added cost and without completely screwing the traction situation more.
Of course running a vortech is a better overall solution but that is a lot more money and time.
I love the tq, but unless a LSD falls in my lap i don't need any more
As we know the cars are FAST as they are now relative to the traction etc., which is why i'm still strongly considering nitrous. I feel like it's a way to possibly dip into 11s type acceleration (once the car is moving) without much added cost and without completely screwing the traction situation more.
Of course running a vortech is a better overall solution but that is a lot more money and time.
I love the tq, but unless a LSD falls in my lap i don't need any more
