started tear down for paint
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I've done that. It took me 12 hrs. straight each way - there and back to Vancouver.
Awesome sceneries in Frank Slide. Had relatives living near there (Blairmore).
Awesome sceneries in Frank Slide. Had relatives living near there (Blairmore).
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Back in the winter, when I was swapping in the C32 calipers, I noticed some rust bubbling on the driver's door. A bit of a **** off because the paint job was not even a year old! That's what I get for a cheap paint job I guess.
Anyway, instead of swapping in a new door skin (which the body shop had recommended - after telling me that the door would just continue to rust and that there was only a 90 day rust warranty) I decided to fix it on my own. The rust wasn't horrible - it hadn't eaten holes in the door bottom - just horrible looking.
So I took some coarse sand paper to it, and then sprayed it with Plastidip. The Plastidip is just a strip 15mm tall, and runs the length of the door. To match, I did the other three doors too.
Here are before, during and after shots. Haven't re-installed the weatherstrip on the door bottoms yet though, I'm going to buy some new clips for them first.
Next, going to spray down and clean up the 55 motor, then reseal it with the new seals I bought, then just going to set aside a couple weekends in August to swap it in!!
Anyway, instead of swapping in a new door skin (which the body shop had recommended - after telling me that the door would just continue to rust and that there was only a 90 day rust warranty) I decided to fix it on my own. The rust wasn't horrible - it hadn't eaten holes in the door bottom - just horrible looking.
So I took some coarse sand paper to it, and then sprayed it with Plastidip. The Plastidip is just a strip 15mm tall, and runs the length of the door. To match, I did the other three doors too.
Here are before, during and after shots. Haven't re-installed the weatherstrip on the door bottoms yet though, I'm going to buy some new clips for them first.
Next, going to spray down and clean up the 55 motor, then reseal it with the new seals I bought, then just going to set aside a couple weekends in August to swap it in!!
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Back in the winter, when I was swapping in the C32 calipers, I noticed some rust bubbling on the driver's door. A bit of a **** off because the paint job was not even a year old! That's what I get for a cheap paint job I guess.
Anyway, instead of swapping in a new door skin (which the body shop had recommended - after telling me that the door would just continue to rust and that there was only a 90 day rust warranty) I decided to fix it on my own. The rust wasn't horrible - it hadn't eaten holes in the door bottom - just horrible looking.
So I took some coarse sand paper to it, and then sprayed it with Plastidip. The Plastidip is just a strip 15mm tall, and runs the length of the door. To match, I did the other three doors too.
Here are before, during and after shots. Haven't re-installed the weatherstrip on the door bottoms yet though, I'm going to buy some new clips for them first.
Next, going to spray down and clean up the 55 motor, then reseal it with the new seals I bought, then just going to set aside a couple weekends in August to swap it in!!
Anyway, instead of swapping in a new door skin (which the body shop had recommended - after telling me that the door would just continue to rust and that there was only a 90 day rust warranty) I decided to fix it on my own. The rust wasn't horrible - it hadn't eaten holes in the door bottom - just horrible looking.
So I took some coarse sand paper to it, and then sprayed it with Plastidip. The Plastidip is just a strip 15mm tall, and runs the length of the door. To match, I did the other three doors too.
Here are before, during and after shots. Haven't re-installed the weatherstrip on the door bottoms yet though, I'm going to buy some new clips for them first.
Next, going to spray down and clean up the 55 motor, then reseal it with the new seals I bought, then just going to set aside a couple weekends in August to swap it in!!
. I think the 90 day rust warranty would of had me looking elsewhere... Sorry that your C43 has cancer but you seem like a caring owner so I am sure you will have it under control.
On the bright side you have a 55 motor that is going to make you forget about any imperfections your C43, I mean C55, may have.
If you don't mind me asking how much did you pay for the paint job?
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hey Saabo, try to locate used doors w/o cancer rot for cheap money and replace all 4 of them if being infected by dreadful rust.
nowadays auto paint isn't as near as good as they used to be back in the good ole days with all chemical stuff mixed and blended at the paintshop, all crap with ecological stuff and less toxic chemicals makes the new paintjob more weaker in quality and durability.
waterbased paint must be a nightmare???
nowadays auto paint isn't as near as good as they used to be back in the good ole days with all chemical stuff mixed and blended at the paintshop, all crap with ecological stuff and less toxic chemicals makes the new paintjob more weaker in quality and durability.
waterbased paint must be a nightmare???
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Well, to be fair, the paint job was cheap - like C$2800 - and my car has lived through 12 Canadian winters, unlike your car! 
The rust was there already, I think when they painted it they just didn't get rid of it all.
I haven't seen any 202s in the local pick your part yards yet, just early '90s 124s so far. I may consider grabbing doors if they are in good shape.
The rust was there already, I think when they painted it they just didn't get rid of it all. I haven't seen any 202s in the local pick your part yards yet, just early '90s 124s so far. I may consider grabbing doors if they are in good shape.
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Well, to be fair, the paint job was cheap - like C$2800 - and my car has lived through 12 Canadian winters, unlike your car! The rust was there already, I think when they painted it they just didn't get rid of it all.
I haven't seen any 202s in the local pick your part yards yet, just early '90s 124s so far. I may consider grabbing doors if they are in good shape.
The rust was there already, I think when they painted it they just didn't get rid of it all. I haven't seen any 202s in the local pick your part yards yet, just early '90s 124s so far. I may consider grabbing doors if they are in good shape.
If your paintshop didn't do the groundjob very well then the rust will soon come back and so it did.
On all swedish MB recalls for the dreaded w210 rustbucket cars, delaership had all these cars resprayed, and less than a few years cancer rot came back even though it was a approved bodyshop fixing the car.
A damaged door will always rust again if it was previously fixed be by an approved shop, bad quality on metal and weak rustprotection coating at the factory will kill these cars fast if they are not taken care of.
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Well, to be fair, the paint job was cheap - like C$2800 - and my car has lived through 12 Canadian winters, unlike your car! The rust was there already, I think when they painted it they just didn't get rid of it all.
I haven't seen any 202s in the local pick your part yards yet, just early '90s 124s so far. I may consider grabbing doors if they are in good shape.
The rust was there already, I think when they painted it they just didn't get rid of it all. I haven't seen any 202s in the local pick your part yards yet, just early '90s 124s so far. I may consider grabbing doors if they are in good shape.
C$2800 is not that cheap really, you could go to MAACO and get the $299 special
Here are a couple doors I found on ebay (unfortunately neither of them are black):
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1993-...Q5fAccessories
http://cgi.ebay.com/MERCEDES-W202-LE...item20b9f5a7a7 <------- CHEAP!!
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Decided to clean up the 55 motor, and hit it with a bunch of engine degreaser, brushes and water. After tidying up the engine, I then removed the valve covers and the intake manifold. Getting those off were cake, but then I started disassembling the intake manifold - man the inside of that thing is very dirty! I couldn't get the various pieces inside apart, so I'm going to have my engine builder sort it out, hopefully into the hot wash tank.
Re-assembly in the next few weeks. Pix for now:
and a gratuitous photo of my S2000's engine bay again, now with hula girl on the intercooler!
Re-assembly in the next few weeks. Pix for now:
and a gratuitous photo of my S2000's engine bay again, now with hula girl on the intercooler!
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Hi Saab,
Apparently it is a PITTA to get together again. Saw some threads on here about the problem....
Check this one out for example
https://mbworld.org/forums/c36-amg-c...ntake+manifold
Do a search for "intake manifold" plenty of info available
Apparently it is a PITTA to get together again. Saw some threads on here about the problem....
Check this one out for example
https://mbworld.org/forums/c36-amg-c...ntake+manifold
Do a search for "intake manifold" plenty of info available
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Pix or it didn't happen!
I've seen Koich's photos of his car on the 17" C32 wheels, and I just feel the wheels look too 'modern' for the older 202 body. I'd very much go for a set of BBS LMs, but that's looking like $2k even for used, and likely re-drilled from 5x114.3.
Oh, and I also got the new storage bin and 12v socket from the dealer the other day, but haven't installed yet. Got the idea for those from Eundaddy too!
I've seen Koich's photos of his car on the 17" C32 wheels, and I just feel the wheels look too 'modern' for the older 202 body. I'd very much go for a set of BBS LMs, but that's looking like $2k even for used, and likely re-drilled from 5x114.3.
Oh, and I also got the new storage bin and 12v socket from the dealer the other day, but haven't installed yet. Got the idea for those from Eundaddy too!
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Hi Saab,
Apparently it is a PITTA to get together again. Saw some threads on here about the problem....
Check this one out for example
https://mbworld.org/forums/c36-amg-c...ntake+manifold
Do a search for "intake manifold" plenty of info available
Apparently it is a PITTA to get together again. Saw some threads on here about the problem....
Check this one out for example
https://mbworld.org/forums/c36-amg-c...ntake+manifold
Do a search for "intake manifold" plenty of info available
Saab, are you going to do a leak down test while it's out of the car?
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After about an hour of banging on the bottom of the manifold with a persuader (rubber mallet), and prying on the inner runners with a pry bar wrapped in an old microfibre towel, I managed to get the inner baffle out of the bottom half of the manifold. Wow. Not too much fun. Everything will be going to my engine builder's shop tomorrow to get into their wash tank.
Not sure if I'll do any polishing or anything though, just a thorough clean up. That said, I found mbenzman's old threads in the CLK forum, and the claimed 25hp gain from his porting only is enticing. Maybe I'll do the swap just with the C43 manifold and get the swap running with that, then take some time to go through the 55 manifold. We'll see what my engine builder says. I'm not keen on sitting for hours and hours polishing, maybe I'll have them do it for me instead.
I was told that the engine had good compression numbers before I bought it, and I don't have any reason to think a ~100,000km / 60,000 mile M113 is going to be down on numbers, but I actually haven't done a leakdown. I was being willfully blind, as it were. Find something up, and then I'd be tempted to tear the whole thing apart and then my wallet is empty and my wife angry!
Pix of the very dirty pieces. Hope to have pix ofthe cleaned up pieces soon!
...and a nice photo of the car on my driveway near dusk. FYI (and Kowalski will be able to relate given his location, and Ob1 coz he used to live here), we get sunlight until maybe 10:30pm this time of year. I love it, favourite time of year is summer. Very soft and lovely colours in the sky. Come December though, The Suck returns, as it gets dark about 3:30-4:00pm though...
Not sure if I'll do any polishing or anything though, just a thorough clean up. That said, I found mbenzman's old threads in the CLK forum, and the claimed 25hp gain from his porting only is enticing. Maybe I'll do the swap just with the C43 manifold and get the swap running with that, then take some time to go through the 55 manifold. We'll see what my engine builder says. I'm not keen on sitting for hours and hours polishing, maybe I'll have them do it for me instead.
I was told that the engine had good compression numbers before I bought it, and I don't have any reason to think a ~100,000km / 60,000 mile M113 is going to be down on numbers, but I actually haven't done a leakdown. I was being willfully blind, as it were.
Find something up, and then I'd be tempted to tear the whole thing apart and then my wallet is empty and my wife angry! Pix of the very dirty pieces. Hope to have pix ofthe cleaned up pieces soon!
...and a nice photo of the car on my driveway near dusk. FYI (and Kowalski will be able to relate given his location, and Ob1 coz he used to live here), we get sunlight until maybe 10:30pm this time of year. I love it, favourite time of year is summer. Very soft and lovely colours in the sky. Come December though, The Suck returns, as it gets dark about 3:30-4:00pm though...
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Looking good, but the parts are.... 
Don't want to think what mine could be like with close to 220,000km in its guts.
Don't know but have you thought of getting the parts cleaned in an ultrasonic cleaner? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrasonic_cleaning
What about some particle blasting method? Could be a way to get the parts clean like new
Don't want to think what mine could be like with close to 220,000km in its guts.Don't know but have you thought of getting the parts cleaned in an ultrasonic cleaner? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrasonic_cleaning
What about some particle blasting method? Could be a way to get the parts clean like new
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My engine builder cleaned the pieces up as much as possible, just using the solvent tank and the heated parts washing machine. Anything else (glass beading, hot wash tank) would be more intrusive on the metal. I'll have to do the detail clean up on my own.
I dunno if I'll do any porting or polishing, probably just reassemble the whole thing and be done with it. My engine builder is pessimistic that 25rwhp can be found with porting and polishing. I wish there were before and after dynos with the polished manifold as the sole variable.
Next, I need to locate some high temperature adhesive to glue the pieces back together.
Pix of clean parts, now 'thirsty' for paint. I think I will spray the valve covers, but that's about it.
I dunno if I'll do any porting or polishing, probably just reassemble the whole thing and be done with it. My engine builder is pessimistic that 25rwhp can be found with porting and polishing. I wish there were before and after dynos with the polished manifold as the sole variable.
Next, I need to locate some high temperature adhesive to glue the pieces back together.
Pix of clean parts, now 'thirsty' for paint. I think I will spray the valve covers, but that's about it.
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Good job and looks nice....
A bit of polish before reassembly?
A bit of polish before reassembly?
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Sun actually sets around 10:45PM during peak of summer. Then sunrise is 4AM.
Winter time daylight is rather short. I think it's like 6 hrs.
Nevertheless, your C43 is looking good and hopefully will sound like much more beastly when you've dropped in your 55 motor.
(i'm curious about your fleet licence plate though)
...and a nice photo of the car on my driveway near dusk. FYI (and Kowalski will be able to relate given his location, and Ob1 coz he used to live here),
we get sunlight until maybe 10:30pm this time of year. I love it, favourite time of year is summer. Very soft and lovely colours in the sky.
Come December though, The Suck returns, as it gets dark about 3:30-4:00pm though...
Winter time daylight is rather short. I think it's like 6 hrs.
Nevertheless, your C43 is looking good and hopefully will sound like much more beastly when you've dropped in your 55 motor.
(i'm curious about your fleet licence plate though)
...and a nice photo of the car on my driveway near dusk. FYI (and Kowalski will be able to relate given his location, and Ob1 coz he used to live here),
we get sunlight until maybe 10:30pm this time of year. I love it, favourite time of year is summer. Very soft and lovely colours in the sky.
Come December though, The Suck returns, as it gets dark about 3:30-4:00pm though...
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Heh, not a fleet plate, just a commercial plate. I've been doing it for years. Apparently, even my old vanity plate on my Saab ("SAAB0TR") was commercial because I had commercial plates before that. The commercial plates just allow me to utilize downtown loading zones for longer than regular cars. Useful when I need to, say, run into the courthouse to file something and then out again. I got this particular plate because of the number of 8s in it. Chinese number superstition - the Cantonese word for 'wealth' sounds like the Cantonese word for 8.
The one mod I will do is to cut out the secondary catalysts, that should make it rumble a bit more. Then I need to save for a C63, that thing sounds awesome. The trick will be to find a well preserved example with the Performance Pack when the time comes...
Currently contemplating colours to paint the valve covers. Might go with the standard black, or perhaps silver. Can't see much of it with the airbox on the car though.
The one mod I will do is to cut out the secondary catalysts, that should make it rumble a bit more. Then I need to save for a C63, that thing sounds awesome. The trick will be to find a well preserved example with the Performance Pack when the time comes...
Currently contemplating colours to paint the valve covers. Might go with the standard black, or perhaps silver. Can't see much of it with the airbox on the car though.
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Heh, not a fleet plate, just a commercial plate. I've been doing it for years. Apparently, even my old vanity plate on my Saab ("SAAB0TR") was commercial because I had commercial plates before that. The commercial plates just allow me to utilize downtown loading zones for longer than regular cars. Useful when I need to, say, run into the courthouse to file something and then out again. I got this particular plate because of the number of 8s in it. Chinese number superstition - the Cantonese word for 'wealth' sounds like the Cantonese word for 8.
The one mod I will do is to cut out the secondary catalysts, that should make it rumble a bit more. Then I need to save for a C63, that thing sounds awesome. The trick will be to find a well preserved example with the Performance Pack when the time comes...
Currently contemplating colours to paint the valve covers. Might go with the standard black, or perhaps silver. Can't see much of it with the airbox on the car though.
The one mod I will do is to cut out the secondary catalysts, that should make it rumble a bit more. Then I need to save for a C63, that thing sounds awesome. The trick will be to find a well preserved example with the Performance Pack when the time comes...
Currently contemplating colours to paint the valve covers. Might go with the standard black, or perhaps silver. Can't see much of it with the airbox on the car though.
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Off topic, but just wanted to share a couple more pix of my S2000 after a midweek meet up with the local S2000 crowd (the black car near the photo is also boosted with the same supercharger kit as on my S2000, but with more engine management mods - and thus more powah!):
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Almost done cleaning up the insides of the intake manifold. Still debating on whether to do any porting or polishing, and leaning towards not. The more I think about it and discuss it with my engine builder, the more sceptical I get about 25rwhp gains with porting and polishing the intake manifold. I'd be less so if there were back to back dynos with the P&P as the sole variable. I'm finding it difficult to believe that 25rwhp (maybe 40hp at the crank?) is achievable with just P&P. Maybe with software and headers (AMG got similar gains with the SLK55 Black Series I believe) but that's a lot more work and money involved!
At any rate, on the weekend I went looking for some paint to slap onto the valve covers, as they were 'thirsty' after the cleaning in the wash tank. I had almost given up as I didn't find anything that really struck me, when I saw VHT's 'wrinkle black' paint. They also had a wrinkle red, but that didn't feel too 'AMG', more 'Honda' or 'Ferrari', so I left that on the shelf...
Anyway, last night I hit the valve covers with the paint, and here are the results. The last photo is of one of the smaller covers that is on top of the main valve cover, part of the crankcase breather system I believe.
Reassembly and throwing some new seals at the 55 motor soon!
At any rate, on the weekend I went looking for some paint to slap onto the valve covers, as they were 'thirsty' after the cleaning in the wash tank. I had almost given up as I didn't find anything that really struck me, when I saw VHT's 'wrinkle black' paint. They also had a wrinkle red, but that didn't feel too 'AMG', more 'Honda' or 'Ferrari', so I left that on the shelf...
Anyway, last night I hit the valve covers with the paint, and here are the results. The last photo is of one of the smaller covers that is on top of the main valve cover, part of the crankcase breather system I believe.Reassembly and throwing some new seals at the 55 motor soon!
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I like that "wrinkle" paint even if a smaller grain would look better IMO I may just get that done on mine as I plan on changing the cover gaskets (small oil leaks) soon.
I may just get that done on mine as I plan on changing the cover gaskets (small oil leaks) soon.
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Marcus, for about 110,000km, the vacuum lines were in decent shape. But have to remember, the E55 had a fire, and part of the engine wiring harness was melted away. If I remember right, the vacuum lines at the front of the motor were in good shape. The one at the back, which enters the bottom of the manifold and connects to the solenoid for the butterflies inside the manifold was starting to crack. That was was nearly impossible to retrieve without opening the manifold. There was an additional cylindrical, screw shaped grommet on the inside which kept it in there pretty decently. Only when I had the interior baffle out could I get that cylindrical piece out too. I'm going to have to get creative when putting it back together, and 'bulk up' the orifice with an additional piece of vacuum line or some sort of grommet so that the thing is air tight.
The wrinkle paint's instructions say to bake it in an oven for an hour to cure the paint. I have yet to do this. But they also caution that baking it will smooth out the winkles a tad. Might be the look you want?
The wrinkle paint's instructions say to bake it in an oven for an hour to cure the paint. I have yet to do this. But they also caution that baking it will smooth out the winkles a tad. Might be the look you want?
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Did a bit of re-assembly this weekend, new valve cover gaskets naturally, and also started with the oil cooler and test port seals. Put the new engine mounts onto the motor too, and started reassembling the intake manifold - using copper high temp gasket maker to 'glue' the pieces together.
