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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 07:25 AM
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when driving the car hard and pressing kick down the car will take like 5 -10 seconds before responding which is much time.
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by w202c43
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when driving the car hard and pressing kick down the car will take like 5 -10 seconds before responding which is much time.
Potentially the TPS.
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 09:28 AM
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See my post here: same problem as me.

https://mbworld.org/forums/c36-amg-c...-question.html

Interesting that we both posted the same problem one day apart.

I am about to go the TPS route - ouch.
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 09:36 AM
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I will check thank you.
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 09:39 AM
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Thank you i just read the article and i think both of us suffering with the same problem i will check tomorrow with the dealer if he has it so i will change it immediately and reply back with the result.
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by w202c43
Thank you i just read the article and i think both of us suffering with the same problem i will check tomorrow with the dealer if he has it so i will change it immediately and reply back with the result.
Yes, please do follow up with your resolution. I would be weary if the dealer wants to go down the route of Mass Air Flow Sensor or entire Throttle Body. My research shows that some folks did that and it didn't fix the problem.

I DIY my car. So your result will be important to me and others who DIY! I think that this issue needs a complete problem statement and resolution on this forum.

Thanks and good luck!
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 05:07 PM
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I think it is the MAF which is faulty. I had the same problem with my other MB several years ago and a new mass sensor and Star code clearing solved all the problems
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by w202c43
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when driving the car hard and pressing kick down the car will take like 5 -10 seconds before responding which is much time.
A wrong ecu tune to ur car could make this happen,so if u have a chip u should contact the guy who made the file for you,the file has definetly direct comunication with Throttle response,since u have a late kick down response u should check it ! Plus u should check the Throttle Position Sensor located near the firewall,but my advice to check ur file 1st ! Good Luck !
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 10:51 AM
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thank you chicho but my car has no chip or ecu tune , everything still stock .
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 11:11 AM
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thank you chicho but my car has no chip or ecu tune , everything still stock .
Then u should check the throttle sensor,one of my friends had a similar problem in his C43,but sorry cant help you more than this because i dont like to ask any of them about their problems,they will take it in a wrong way and opposite way,i will be only trying to give some help but some have BAD thoughts,So i prefer to stay out ! Hope u understand what i mean ! Anyways Good Luck,And if u need any other help,feel free to ask ! By the way,i advice u to get a tune from Jerry @ eurocharged , He will wake ur car up
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 11:59 AM
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i will still check the throttle sensor , THANK YOU for your assistance . BTW thumbs up for your car .
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 12:19 PM
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i will still check the throttle sensor , THANK YOU for your assistance . BTW thumbs up for your car .
Thanks Still More To come,some are pending already No Problem anytime I like to help anyone that ask or need help,as well We all share here our problems,ideas,help... BTW I saw a post for u that u swap the 55n/a engine on C43,so the kick down problem came since u made the swap or few months later ? (The only reason im asking,bkoz i want to help my friend and he also did the swap,but i suggest that u both need a ecu file,because the ecu will get confused since u r running c43 ecu file on 55 engine,i told him that before but had no idea what he did later ) I think u should have a huge trq since u have 55 engine on all 43 parts Am i right
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 01:56 PM
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When I swap the engine everything was ok later on I face that problem and is getting worse I will get in touch with the dealer of euro tuning for the ecu .hope he will help me to solve that problem. I will keep u in touch . Thanks a lot for your help , hope u will be able to get in touch with your friend maybe he can help us since he face the same problem with is car.
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When I swap the engine everything was ok later on I face that problem and is getting worse I will get in touch with the dealer of euro tuning for the ecu .hope he will help me to solve that problem. I will keep u in touch . Thanks a lot for your help , hope u will be able to get in touch with your friend maybe he can help us since he face the same problem with is car.
Contact Jerry @ eurocharged,he can help you with this but in this time check the throttle sensor. Concerning my friend problem as i said before i dont like to ask about their problems,unless he ask me for help then definetly i will help him
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 02:10 PM
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When I swap the engine everything was ok later on I face that problem and is getting worse I will get in touch with the dealer of euro tuning for the ecu .hope he will help me to solve that problem. I will keep u in touch . Thanks a lot for your help , hope u will be able to get in touch with your friend maybe he can help us since he face the same problem with is car.
Forgot to mention that im 90% sure its from ur ecu file,since when u made the swap everything was ok and then later the porblem started to show up,plus it might be the c43 ecu file made that wrong connection with ur throttle response since u upgraded to a 55 engine and u still on 43 file so u have this 2 things to look after it
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 02:28 PM
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Hi chicho hope your well this is nabih still have the problem not solve yet and last email we sent to Jerry still didn't reply us just read this conversation and wanted to reply so I think we should work on it to solve it .
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 03:12 PM
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Hi chicho hope your well this is nabih still have the problem not solve yet and last email we sent to Jerry still didn't reply us just read this conversation and wanted to reply so I think we should work on it to solve it .
Ahleeeen,hope u read well the whole conv,ma 3ad reddet 3layye khabar chou 3ad 3melet wala chi,so ma 3ad s2alet ana...Both ways beddak file men jerry,w tene shi 7attet scanner ta tshouf iza da3set el benzin 3atye shi error ? li2an ma fi 3endak gher hode el shaghelten li bye3emlo hek. Jerry mnehke deghre,menna hal meshekle
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 11:35 PM
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When I swap the engine everything was ok later on I face that problem and is getting worse I will get in touch with the dealer of euro tuning for the ecu .hope he will help me to solve that problem. I will keep u in touch . Thanks a lot for your help , hope u will be able to get in touch with your friend maybe he can help us since he face the same problem with is car.

Forgot to mention that im 90% sure its from ur ecu file,since when u made the swap everything was ok and then later the porblem started to show up,plus it might be the c43 ecu file made that wrong connection with ur throttle response since u upgraded to a 55 engine and u still on 43 file so u have this 2 things to look after it
c43 ecu will self adapt to the 55 motor. as they use the same ecu as the 99-^ e55 clk55. dealer tech speaking here. check maf or tps. or just simply run by the dealer or shop with sds and have them run a test. trust me. if your car has or had a glich...it may not throw the "CEL" but will "store" a code in the m.e. other scanners might not show but sds will. so save the headache if your not exactly sure get a short test run and most likely no exactly what the problem is. thats how I keep my 43 in tip top shape. although I may be a little spoiled.


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Thank you for your advise 99c43n843 i will still check the maf and tps with sds scanner and i will keep u in touch .
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c43 ecu will self adapt to the 55 motor. as they use the same ecu as the 99-^ e55 clk55. dealer tech speaking here. check maf or tps. or just simply run by the dealer or shop with sds and have them run a test. trust me. if your car has or had a glich...it may not throw the "CEL" but will "store" a code in the m.e. other scanners might not show but sds will. so save the headache if your not exactly sure get a short test run and most likely no exactly what the problem is. thats how I keep my 43 in tip top shape. although I may be a little spoiled.


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I would listen to what says a specialist and better than trial and error....
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c43 ecu will self adapt to the 55 motor. as they use the same ecu as the 99-^ e55 clk55. dealer tech speaking here. check maf or tps. or just simply run by the dealer or shop with sds and have them run a test. trust me. if your car has or had a glich...it may not throw the "CEL" but will "store" a code in the m.e. other scanners might not show but sds will. so save the headache if your not exactly sure get a short test run and most likely no exactly what the problem is. thats how I keep my 43 in tip top shape. although I may be a little spoiled.


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Its not the same ecu,each car has a map C43 has different engine from E55,different power and torque... My suggestion is that his wrong ecu made the tps get confused and store problem... so first he have to check the tps and have a 55 ecu tune
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 08:29 AM
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I would listen to what says a specialist and better than trial and error....
A specialist is not always right,sometimes when he face a problem in a car,he change many things to discover the problem,is that how u called a specialist ?
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A specialist is not always right,sometimes when he face a problem in a car,he change many things to discover the problem,is that how u called a specialist ?

I kind of take this post personal, bc i am a technican that specializes in mercedes benz alone. and as a tech i have gone through years of schooling and training for mercedes benz specifically. what makes your diagnoisis over the internet any better from mine or any other? why because you may have worked a little bit on your own and a buddies mercedes as to me who has worked on 1000's upon 1000's of mercedes. and yes there is that problemmatic car in which we do have trouble with and have to "throw parts" at to elimate possible concerns, none of which is at cost to any customer in our shop until final diagnoisis is complete. i havnt once said i may know everything there is to know about mercedes but i have a slightly better advantage over most on this board. and i was just throwing out a helpful hint or idea, and that helpful hint or idea and had that been given to you throw my shop that would of cost $157.00. so ill just not comment on anymore posts to be helpful in the future.....and sir as for your diagnosis on telling him to call eurocharged (no problems with eurocharged btw, just saying dont just waste money) and get a tune..well a tune is at least $500 and stupid to "just do" when your not sure and still even with a new tune on the me, it still may act the same exact way as with the original tune due to a failing component that is still the problem... just saying.
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Its not the same ecu,each car has a map C43 has different engine from E55,different power and torque... My suggestion is that his wrong ecu made the tps get confused and store problem... so first he have to check the tps and have a 55 ecu tune


and again it is the same m.e. i am at work now and just checked the part number of my M.E 99 c43 on the EPC which chico is what we use at the dealer to look up parts, with an 01 e55 in the shop right now and the part numbers are exactly. the c43 and 55 motor are the same engine, just different internals. both of them are m113 engines. spark plugs, fuel injectors, intake manifolds, exhaust manifolds, etc are the same and cross over for both engines. im not going to get involved in a long overdrawn arguement with someone who is ignorant and doesnt have all the facts and tools to call other people wrong. im through commenting anymore. as i too must be ignorant.
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I kind of take this post personal, bc i am a technican that specializes in mercedes benz alone. and as a tech i have gone through years of schooling and training for mercedes benz specifically. what makes your diagnoisis over the internet any better from mine or any other? why because you may have worked a little bit on your own and a buddies mercedes as to me who has worked on 1000's upon 1000's of mercedes. and yes there is that problemmatic car in which we do have trouble with and have to "throw parts" at to elimate possible concerns, none of which is at cost to any customer in our shop until final diagnoisis is complete. i havnt once said i may know everything there is to know about mercedes but i have a slightly better advantage over most on this board. and i was just throwing out a helpful hint or idea, and that helpful hint or idea and had that been given to you throw my shop that would of cost $157.00. so ill just not comment on anymore posts to be helpful in the future.....and sir as for your diagnosis on telling him to call eurocharged (no problems with eurocharged btw, just saying dont just waste money) and get a tune..well a tune is at least $500 and stupid to "just do" when your not sure and still even with a new tune on the me, it still may act the same exact way as with the original tune due to a failing component that is still the problem... just saying.
I Wish all the technicans that specializes in mercedes benz,bmw and others are just like you if u read back the conv,i told him he should check the tps first and get a tune from eurocharged later on,since he swapped a 55 engine on his c43 then he must be addicted in speed,so as u know ecu tune is the most upgrade that give more hp+trq in the less cost
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