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Old Apr 4, 2017 | 10:26 AM
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Inspecting before purchasing question

Hey guys! How are you all??

I have a little question here... is it important to have an code error reader (or whatever this is called in English &#128541 when you go inspecting the car?

As you may already know I'm trying to be as prepared as I can be to start looking for the right W202 AMG for me... I'm pretty confident in inspecting the aesthetics of the car but no so much into the mechanical things... i may get a PPI if this service is available in Spain but before that, I may go and look at some cars and do the first inspection myself... With that being said, what tools do you think I may need to be as accurate as possible??

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Old Apr 4, 2017 | 10:59 AM
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A bit complicated as the w202s don't have an OBDII port. You need a special multi-pin plug to start with. You can also use your smartphone as a basic code reader. There are many around. I used an app called Torque before getting a better software package. You will also need to have a Bluetooth adapter which plugs onto the multi-pin plug so as to communicate with the phone and app.
I recall seeing someone on FB who has a 43 and lives in Madrid. Perhaps you should check him out. I can send you a private mail with the info, if I can find it again. Are you on FB perhaps?
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Old Apr 4, 2017 | 11:11 AM
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Wait they do have a OBD2?
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Old Apr 4, 2017 | 11:41 AM
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Perhaps the US ones but not the ROW. except perhaps for the last models of 2000. My 99 certainly doesn't have an OBDII port in the cockpit...
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Old Apr 4, 2017 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DRBC43AMG
Perhaps the US ones but not the ROW. except perhaps for the last models of 2000. My 99 certainly doesn't have an OBDII port in the cockpit...
Mine definitely does have one.

Do you have the OBD1?
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Originally Posted by DRBC43AMG
A bit complicated as the w202s don't have an OBDII port. You need a special multi-pin plug to start with. You can also use your smartphone as a basic code reader. There are many around. I used an app called Torque before getting a better software package. You will also need to have a Bluetooth adapter which plugs onto the multi-pin plug so as to communicate with the phone and app.
I recall seeing someone on FB who has a 43 and lives in Madrid. Perhaps you should check him out. I can send you a private mail with the info, if I can find it again. Are you on FB perhaps?
Great!! I don't quite get how those readers even work... but my brother does so he can give me a few tips... but we don't know what tool do we need to inspect this things...

you can private mesaage me or look me up in Facebook... I'm Damian Amarante

thanks!!
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Originally Posted by PJmak
Mine definitely does have one.

Do you have the OBD1?
Errr what's OBD1? Pre-historical diagnosis perhaps

Some reading.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On-board_diagnostics

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Originally Posted by PJmak
Mine definitely does have one.

Do you have the OBD1?
What about the C36?! I'm more "in love" with that old one, besides somehow you find more 36 than 43 in Spain
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Originally Posted by DRBC43AMG
Errr what's OBD1? Pre-historical diagnosis perhaps

Some reading.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On-board_diagnostics
I think 95 and earlier mbs have it not sure. My brothers 95 s class has it.

The c36 should be OBDII, the US version at least that is.

So you are telling me you dont have a plug under your steering wheel kinda on the same panel where the hood release is?
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Nope nothing, nada!
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Old Apr 4, 2017 | 01:25 PM
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euros don't have that kind of convenient stuff.
we have a 38 pin round connector in the engine bay on the passengers side feuer wall
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Originally Posted by kowalski
euros don't have that kind of convenient stuff.
we have a 38 pin round connector in the engine bay on the passengers side feuer wall
Mine has that too
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Old Apr 4, 2017 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by kowalski
euros don't have that kind of convenient stuff.
we have a 38 pin round connector in the engine bay on the passengers side feuer wall
Ho Kowalsky!! Is that round thing useful to check it out??
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Old Apr 4, 2017 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by damianAMG
Ho Kowalsky!! Is that round thing useful to check it out??
round 38 pin connector is for the code reader MB service use to check for codes with STAR computer.
euros don't have any OBD II inside cabin
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Old Apr 4, 2017 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by kowalski
round 38 pin connector is for the code reader MB service use to check for codes with STAR computer.
euros don't have any OBD II inside cabin
so i cannot get a tool to inspect from that one isn't it??
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you need an adapter and computer with MB software
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Originally Posted by kowalski
you need an adapter and computer with MB software
Aha... not as easy as I thought it could be then... but thanks for the inputs!
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Damian, all you need is the stuff I mentioned in my post:
- Special pin plug
- Bluetooth adapter
- Application like Torque.
That's all. You can read the codes but not delete them. You can also follow what's going on and plenty of real time info like temp, revs, etc.
The stuff Kowalski talks about is more complicated and for workshop use, deleting codes, etc. You can get that stuff later if you want.

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Originally Posted by DRBC43AMG
Damian, all you need is the stuff I mentioned in my post:
- Special pin plug
- Bluetooth adapter
- Application like Torque.
That's all. You can read the codes but not delete them. You can also follow what's going on and plenty of real time info like temp, revs, etc.
The stuff Kowalski talks about is more complicated and for workshop use, deleting codes, etc. You can get that stuff later if you want.
and can i achieve that analysis from the round thing Kowalsky mentioned??
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Originally Posted by damianAMG
and can i achieve that analysis from the round thing Kowalsky mentioned??

YES!!

Here's a breakdown of the three things you need to make it work. The links are examples of the type of equipment you need, apart from the last link which is the Torque application you can get on Play Store for your Android phone.

https://www.tinydeal.com/fr/elm327-o...r-p-47073.html


http://www.ebay.com/bhp/mercedes-38-pin


https://torque-bhp.com/
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Damian if you are going to read the codes on every car you are going to look at you need the encyclopedia of error codes!
you will NOT understand the codes if you check codes with an app, adapter and the round pin.

do you really want to buy the adapter pin just to check codes?
come on dude.
if you are smart, you go to the car dealer to check the car you interested to buy.
you tell car dealer to check the car for codes infront of you so they are not hiding any problems from you, then car dealer should give you a document with possibles codes or there were NO codes at all on that specific car?

you going to waste money on a 38 pin adapter, telephone apps and other mierda??
you will not understand much when it comes to error codes.
take the car to a Mercedes specialist pay them for inspection, it will save you dollares not buying mierda
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Originally Posted by kowalski
Damian if you are going to read the codes on every car you are going to look at you need the encyclopedia of error codes!
you will NOT understand the codes if you check codes with an app, adapter and the round pin.

do you really want to buy the adapter pin just to check codes?
come on dude.
if you are smart, you go to the car dealer to check the car you interested to buy.
you tell car dealer to check the car for codes infront of you so they are not hiding any problems from you, then car dealer should give you a document with possibles codes or there were NO codes at all on that specific car?

you going to waste money on a 38 pin adapter, telephone apps and other mierda??
you will not understand much when it comes to error codes.
take the car to a Mercedes specialist pay them for inspection, it will save you dollares not buying mierda
Hey Kowalsky!! I certainly get what you mean... didn't know it was so troubled what I ask this question in the post actually...

I'm used to plug a thing to any car and when a code appears (usually you don't get 57 errors, just 1 or 2 in most common cars) you just google the code to know what you're dealing with...

I'm not that much into mechanics but I perform PPI inspections here with a friend who deals with the mechanical stuff... it is not rocket science what he does with the code reader in fact...

As I don't know how errors are shown in this specific cars, I ask!! Some cars just have the basics and more important electronical failures right there on your dash...

And yes, im not gonna buy a piece of míerda at the end!! Heje!! You guys are helping me not to miss anything at first sight
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c43 has obd2 BUT....

my understanding and i may be wrong, obd2 will not pick up all the codes... maybe some of the body modules or something no idea
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Originally Posted by mickey13
c43 has obd2 BUT....

my understanding and i may be wrong, obd2 will not pick up all the codes... maybe some of the body modules or something no idea
mikkey13
our buddy is not buying an american C43, he is going to move to Spain in Eürope.
european 1998-1999 C43's didn't have OBDII unless it's the final edition of MY2000 which might had it???

for him to check codes is to pop the huud and plug something into the round adapter pin next to the feuer wall

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Originally Posted by kowalski
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our buddy is going to move to Spain in Eürope.
european 1998-1999 C43's didn't have OBDII unless it's the final edition of MY2000 which might had it???

for him to check codes si to pop the huud and plug something in the round adapter pin
i think youre right, it is not on EU models as only US had the requirement.
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