Official C43/C450 1/4-mile thread
#1
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Official C43/C450 1/4-mile thread
It will be interesting to see everyone's times in a unified thread. Please post a much info as possible.
I think it will be great to see how different tracks, tunes, fuel, temps, weights, etc.. compare. 1/8 mile times are welcome too.
Here's mine,
Car: 2017 C43 Sedan
Track: Englishtown, NJ
Tune: Stock
Fuel: 93 octane
Weight: 3955 lb w/driver and 1/4 tank of gas
Temp: ~85f
I think it will be great to see how different tracks, tunes, fuel, temps, weights, etc.. compare. 1/8 mile times are welcome too.
Here's mine,
Car: 2017 C43 Sedan
Track: Englishtown, NJ
Tune: Stock
Fuel: 93 octane
Weight: 3955 lb w/driver and 1/4 tank of gas
Temp: ~85f
Last edited by 18bora; 07-23-2017 at 04:21 PM.
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'17 C43 Sedan (gone), '08 Evo X MR, '20 C43 Sedan
Interesting.. are you manually shifting? It looks like your 60' is spot on, but you're dropping off by the 1/8th and 1000' vs. your first run.
I'd be curious to know what your intercooler's coolant temp was in that 1st day, 1st run vs. the subsequent runs and your latest runs.. were you stopping and shutting off the engine after each run while you waiting in the line for staging, or did you keep it running? How long is the return back to staging from the end of the strip?
I'd be curious to know what your intercooler's coolant temp was in that 1st day, 1st run vs. the subsequent runs and your latest runs.. were you stopping and shutting off the engine after each run while you waiting in the line for staging, or did you keep it running? How long is the return back to staging from the end of the strip?
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Interesting.. are you manually shifting? It looks like your 60' is spot on, but you're dropping off by the 1/8th and 1000' vs. your first run.
I'd be curious to know what your intercooler's coolant temp was in that 1st day, 1st run vs. the subsequent runs and your latest runs.. were you stopping and shutting off the engine after each run while you waiting in the line for staging, or did you keep it running? How long is the return back to staging from the end of the strip?
I'd be curious to know what your intercooler's coolant temp was in that 1st day, 1st run vs. the subsequent runs and your latest runs.. were you stopping and shutting off the engine after each run while you waiting in the line for staging, or did you keep it running? How long is the return back to staging from the end of the strip?
#6
Ill take part of this since i plan on going back to the track and updating this thread as well.
Best run was this using manual mode with traction off brake and gas for launching.
Car: 2017 C43 Coupe
Track: Atco Dragway, NJ
Tune: Stock
Fuel: 93 Octane
Weight: 3985
Temp: 88F
60': 1.880
330: 5.446
1/8: 8.371
MPH: 83.58
1000: 10.874
E.T: 12.986
MPH: 107.19
Best run was this using manual mode with traction off brake and gas for launching.
Car: 2017 C43 Coupe
Track: Atco Dragway, NJ
Tune: Stock
Fuel: 93 Octane
Weight: 3985
Temp: 88F
60': 1.880
330: 5.446
1/8: 8.371
MPH: 83.58
1000: 10.874
E.T: 12.986
MPH: 107.19
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Car: 2017 C43 Sedan
Track: Atco, NJ
Tune: BMS JB1 map1 (91 octane)
Fuel: 93 octane
Weight: ~3955 lb w/driver and 1/4 tank of gas
Temps: Mid-low 70's
Car: 2017 C43 Sedan
Track: Atco, NJ
Tune: BMS JB1 map2 (93 octane)
Fuel: 93 octane
Weight: ~3955 lb w/driver and 1/4 tank of gas
Temps: low 70's-upper 60's
Update:
Update:
Track: Atco, NJ
Tune: BMS JB1 map1 (91 octane)
Fuel: 93 octane
Weight: ~3955 lb w/driver and 1/4 tank of gas
Temps: Mid-low 70's
Car: 2017 C43 Sedan
Track: Atco, NJ
Tune: BMS JB1 map2 (93 octane)
Fuel: 93 octane
Weight: ~3955 lb w/driver and 1/4 tank of gas
Temps: low 70's-upper 60's
Update:
Update:
Last edited by 18bora; 11-03-2017 at 03:39 PM.
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Hey 18bora. Those are very very good times! Great numbers, and great idea for the thread. I plan on posting back again once i head back. Let me know when you plan on going back to atco. It's my favorite track.
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I normally go whenever I'm in the mood. If I'm free and the weather is nice, I check their schedule and just go.
http://atcodragway.rocks/?page_id=2796
http://www.etownraceway.com/mydocume...ule2017web.pdf
Friday nights at Atco, you can get 6+ runs if you show up early. Wednesday nights at E-town, don't expect more than 3 runs.
You can also go during Euro and Import events, FF LIVE, EURO’D OUT and Ratchet Friday.
#10
OE Tune 12.075 sec 1/4 Run & Track Experience
I wanted to share my 1/4 mile drag times with the forum post my OE tune. Because my C43 is my daily driver, I wanted to run it at the track as close to how I tool it around town so that is why I left it with;
-Two 30lb steel frame car seats in the back seat
-1/2 tank of fuel
-Spare tire
-Miscellaneous training gear in the trunk, ~10-15lbs
-Sport + Mode
-Traction Control Off
-My 225lb frame
-93 Octane
-Stock everything except for the OE Tune
—————————————————-
-Drove around the water box on all passes
-Brake-torqued on all passes between 1,000-2,500 rpm
-Did NOT paddle shift on any runs
-43 degrees Fahrenheit during all runs
I’m admittedly a bit rusty and haven’t been to the track in 5 years so the car likely would have done better in more experienced hands but my best pass was 12.075 seconds @113.79 mph. Other notable passes were, 12.114 sec @112.91mph, 12.180 sec @113.30 mph and 12.212 sec @112.82 mph. As the serious cars started to run, light debris and film started to build on the track right out of the chute. I was surprised that I had some traction issues through first and second gears on 2 separate passes because I find it very hard to break the tires loose even with traction control off and wide open throttle in semi slick conditions.
I never felt like I had the rpm’s dialed in during brake-torquing. Launches were mostly good but I just never felt like I hit that sweet spot.
From my perspective, the car felt very good on the first half of the track and I believe the 1/8 mile times/speed reflect that; 7.762 sec and 90.70mph on my best pass of 12.075.
It was the back half of the track where the power seemed to fall off a bit. Overall I’m very pleased with the times that the car put up but I feel that with some gummier tires, ditching some of the weight and honing in the launch, this car will run 11.9’s. Will try again in a few months. I'm open to feedback/suggestions to improve my times so please feel free to comment.
Thanks to all of you who answered my many questions about your experiences with AMR, OE and EC tunes. I plan to post a more detailed review of my experience with OE at a later time. I just knew that there were a few who I owed numbers to and I wanted to post these to the group.
Thanks!
-Two 30lb steel frame car seats in the back seat
-1/2 tank of fuel
-Spare tire
-Miscellaneous training gear in the trunk, ~10-15lbs
-Sport + Mode
-Traction Control Off
-My 225lb frame
-93 Octane
-Stock everything except for the OE Tune
—————————————————-
-Drove around the water box on all passes
-Brake-torqued on all passes between 1,000-2,500 rpm
-Did NOT paddle shift on any runs
-43 degrees Fahrenheit during all runs
I’m admittedly a bit rusty and haven’t been to the track in 5 years so the car likely would have done better in more experienced hands but my best pass was 12.075 seconds @113.79 mph. Other notable passes were, 12.114 sec @112.91mph, 12.180 sec @113.30 mph and 12.212 sec @112.82 mph. As the serious cars started to run, light debris and film started to build on the track right out of the chute. I was surprised that I had some traction issues through first and second gears on 2 separate passes because I find it very hard to break the tires loose even with traction control off and wide open throttle in semi slick conditions.
I never felt like I had the rpm’s dialed in during brake-torquing. Launches were mostly good but I just never felt like I hit that sweet spot.
From my perspective, the car felt very good on the first half of the track and I believe the 1/8 mile times/speed reflect that; 7.762 sec and 90.70mph on my best pass of 12.075.
It was the back half of the track where the power seemed to fall off a bit. Overall I’m very pleased with the times that the car put up but I feel that with some gummier tires, ditching some of the weight and honing in the launch, this car will run 11.9’s. Will try again in a few months. I'm open to feedback/suggestions to improve my times so please feel free to comment.
Thanks to all of you who answered my many questions about your experiences with AMR, OE and EC tunes. I plan to post a more detailed review of my experience with OE at a later time. I just knew that there were a few who I owed numbers to and I wanted to post these to the group.
Thanks!
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I wanted to share my 1/4 mile drag times with the forum post my OE tune. Because my C43 is my daily driver, I wanted to run it at the track as close to how I tool it around town so that is why I left it with;
-Two 30lb steel frame car seats in the back seat
-1/2 tank of fuel
-Spare tire
-Miscellaneous training gear in the trunk, ~10-15lbs
-Sport + Mode
-Traction Control Off
-My 225lb frame
-93 Octane
-Stock everything except for the OE Tune
—————————————————-
-Drove around the water box on all passes
-Brake-torqued on all passes between 1,000-2,500 rpm
-Did NOT paddle shift on any runs
-43 degrees Fahrenheit during all runs
I’m admittedly a bit rusty and haven’t been to the track in 5 years so the car likely would have done better in more experienced hands but my best pass was 12.075 seconds @113.79 mph. Other notable passes were, 12.114 sec @112.91mph, 12.180 sec @113.30 mph and 12.212 sec @112.82 mph. As the serious cars started to run, light debris and film started to build on the track right out of the chute. I was surprised that I had some traction issues through first and second gears on 2 separate passes because I find it very hard to break the tires loose even with traction control off and wide open throttle in semi slick conditions.
I never felt like I had the rpm’s dialed in during brake-torquing. Launches were mostly good but I just never felt like I hit that sweet spot.
From my perspective, the car felt very good on the first half of the track and I believe the 1/8 mile times/speed reflect that; 7.762 sec and 90.70mph on my best pass of 12.075.
It was the back half of the track where the power seemed to fall off a bit. Overall I’m very pleased with the times that the car put up but I feel that with some gummier tires, ditching some of the weight and honing in the launch, this car will run 11.9’s. Will try again in a few months. I'm open to feedback/suggestions to improve my times so please feel free to comment.
Thanks to all of you who answered my many questions about your experiences with AMR, OE and EC tunes. I plan to post a more detailed review of my experience with OE at a later time. I just knew that there were a few who I owed numbers to and I wanted to post these to the group.
Thanks!
-Two 30lb steel frame car seats in the back seat
-1/2 tank of fuel
-Spare tire
-Miscellaneous training gear in the trunk, ~10-15lbs
-Sport + Mode
-Traction Control Off
-My 225lb frame
-93 Octane
-Stock everything except for the OE Tune
—————————————————-
-Drove around the water box on all passes
-Brake-torqued on all passes between 1,000-2,500 rpm
-Did NOT paddle shift on any runs
-43 degrees Fahrenheit during all runs
I’m admittedly a bit rusty and haven’t been to the track in 5 years so the car likely would have done better in more experienced hands but my best pass was 12.075 seconds @113.79 mph. Other notable passes were, 12.114 sec @112.91mph, 12.180 sec @113.30 mph and 12.212 sec @112.82 mph. As the serious cars started to run, light debris and film started to build on the track right out of the chute. I was surprised that I had some traction issues through first and second gears on 2 separate passes because I find it very hard to break the tires loose even with traction control off and wide open throttle in semi slick conditions.
I never felt like I had the rpm’s dialed in during brake-torquing. Launches were mostly good but I just never felt like I hit that sweet spot.
From my perspective, the car felt very good on the first half of the track and I believe the 1/8 mile times/speed reflect that; 7.762 sec and 90.70mph on my best pass of 12.075.
It was the back half of the track where the power seemed to fall off a bit. Overall I’m very pleased with the times that the car put up but I feel that with some gummier tires, ditching some of the weight and honing in the launch, this car will run 11.9’s. Will try again in a few months. I'm open to feedback/suggestions to improve my times so please feel free to comment.
Thanks to all of you who answered my many questions about your experiences with AMR, OE and EC tunes. I plan to post a more detailed review of my experience with OE at a later time. I just knew that there were a few who I owed numbers to and I wanted to post these to the group.
Thanks!
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nice
The numbers show that all tunes are ~ about ~ the same, other than the price... This is the main reason I did not go for the "custom dyno toon" Weather, track condition, driver, etc... play a big part of the numbers, but, If it makes you (not directed @ anyone in this thread) feel better that you paid more for a toon, then good for you.
As I said before in this thread,
https://mbworld.org/forums/c450-c43-...ml#post7267459
The numbers show that all tunes are ~ about ~ the same, other than the price... This is the main reason I did not go for the "custom dyno toon" Weather, track condition, driver, etc... play a big part of the numbers, but, If it makes you (not directed @ anyone in this thread) feel better that you paid more for a toon, then good for you.
As I said before in this thread,
https://mbworld.org/forums/c450-c43-...ml#post7267459
While I don't have experience with any of the US "tuners", I was told by a reliable source that most of them don't actually "tune" the car. They buy European tunes/flash tool and just flash your car........ If this is true, most of them should be the same!!!!
https://www.evc.de/en/product/ols/re...=&search=+w205
https://www.evc.de/en/product/ols/re...26R+Chiptuning
https://youtu.be/bF9JZc5rRqk
https://www.evc.de/en/product/ols/re...=&search=+w205
https://www.evc.de/en/product/ols/re...26R+Chiptuning
https://youtu.be/bF9JZc5rRqk
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nice
The numbers show that all tunes are ~ about ~ the same, other than the price... This is the main reason I did not go for the "custom dyno toon" Weather, track condition, driver, etc... play a big part of the numbers, but, If it makes you (not directed @ anyone in this thread) feel better that you paid more for a toon, then good for you.
As I said before in this thread,
https://mbworld.org/forums/c450-c43-...ml#post7267459
The numbers show that all tunes are ~ about ~ the same, other than the price... This is the main reason I did not go for the "custom dyno toon" Weather, track condition, driver, etc... play a big part of the numbers, but, If it makes you (not directed @ anyone in this thread) feel better that you paid more for a toon, then good for you.
As I said before in this thread,
https://mbworld.org/forums/c450-c43-...ml#post7267459
#19
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Thread update
Track - Atco, NJ
JB1, map6
Stock DP/filters
Stock run-flat tires
93+ fuel (~1/2 tank of 93+ a can of octane booster) ~95-96 octane?
Temps in the mid 50's
Track - Atco, NJ
JB1, map6
Stock DP/filters
Stock run-flat tires
93+ fuel (~1/2 tank of 93+ a can of octane booster) ~95-96 octane?
Temps in the mid 50's
#23
Track - PBI (Jupiter, Florida)
JB1, map6 (my map 6 at the time was somewhere between Map1 and 2
Stock DP/filters
Tires: PS4S
Fuel: 93
Temps Low 70's
Track conditions: Atrocious (normally an ok track why such *****ty conditions that day who knows)
I'm on the left lane
JB1, map6 (my map 6 at the time was somewhere between Map1 and 2
Stock DP/filters
Tires: PS4S
Fuel: 93
Temps Low 70's
Track conditions: Atrocious (normally an ok track why such *****ty conditions that day who knows)
I'm on the left lane
#24
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Have you tried mixing in a little E85. I ran 11.7 at 117 on 93, but I did noticed when I mixed in a little E85 the car performed better