C450/C43 AMG
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Stock v.s VR Tunned (piggy back) v.s Ecu Tune !

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 09-01-2018, 02:31 AM
  #1  
Banned
Thread Starter
 
b0kix's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 12 Posts
Stock v.s VR Tunned (piggy back) v.s Ecu Tune !

Hey guys did some testing on this C43 amg today.
Here is the reason why everyone should get a ECU tune.
all testing done on mustang dyno @solomotorsports in Atlanta at 89 deg weather.




the beast


Dyno graph showing stock v.s Vr speed v.s Solo tune


E63 and C63 flexing...

Old 09-01-2018, 10:10 AM
  #2  
Super Member
 
threefirs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Toronto
Posts: 526
Received 85 Likes on 73 Posts
2017 C43 AMG Cabriolet Black/Cranberry Red
VR tune piggy back is apparently slow. Not justification for a full tune, but there are def reasons why a full tune is good.

Why didn’t you go with a tuner that has 100’s of hours of development on the M276 instead of a hole in the wall tuner?

To be blunt, dyno graph means nothing. Just a measuring tool for a tuner so they’re able to work. Take it to the track and let’s see numbers.
Old 09-01-2018, 10:21 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
HTXgearhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Houston
Posts: 402
Received 126 Likes on 95 Posts
2018 C43 sedan
On a serious note, how much power did you gain from the “S” badge? Thinking about this for my C43.
Old 09-01-2018, 10:30 AM
  #4  
Banned
Thread Starter
 
b0kix's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 12 Posts
I posted this just show the difference between a full ecu tune and piggyback. $ 2000 spent on the piggyback dyno tune was $ 1500 and no hole in the wall tuner...😂😂
Old 09-01-2018, 10:38 AM
  #5  
Super Member
 
threefirs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Toronto
Posts: 526
Received 85 Likes on 73 Posts
2017 C43 AMG Cabriolet Black/Cranberry Red
Originally Posted by b0kix
I posted this just show the difference between a full ecu tune and piggyback. $ 2000 spent on the piggyback dyno tune was $ 1500 and no hole in the wall tuner...😂😂
Perhaps not a hole in the wall to Atlanta locals, perhaps not new to AMG’s either. That still doesn’t net them near the amount of experience the “popular” tuners for the M276 have. Curious what made you ignore that and go with them anyways?
Old 09-01-2018, 10:40 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
HTXgearhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Houston
Posts: 402
Received 126 Likes on 95 Posts
2018 C43 sedan
Hopefully the tune works out but going OE or EC would have been a safe bet. Have they tuned other C43s?
Old 09-01-2018, 10:52 AM
  #7  
Member
 
foxberry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 93
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
C450 AMG
totally unrelated, but why does the AMG badge look so low?
Old 09-01-2018, 10:55 AM
  #8  
Super Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Dieseldan9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 836
Received 132 Likes on 112 Posts
2018 C43 AMG Brilliant Blue Metallic
Wonder what setting you had vivid box on.....either way for what I paid for the VB I am pretty happy.

I would consider a full tune but leased so sorta defeats the purpose

I know I can change it back but imo not worth the hassle.
Old 09-01-2018, 11:05 AM
  #9  
Banned
Thread Starter
 
b0kix's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 12 Posts
Originally Posted by threefirs


Perhaps not a hole in the wall to Atlanta locals, perhaps not new to AMG’s either. That still doesn’t net them near the amount of experience the “popular” tuners for the M276 have. Curious what made you ignore that and go with them anyways?

Local, have been doing custom tunes for years good experience with them.
Old 09-01-2018, 04:15 PM
  #10  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Mr. J's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 1,564
Received 263 Likes on 207 Posts
C450, GLC43
Originally Posted by HTXgearhead
Hopefully the tune works out but going OE or EC would have been a safe bet. Have they tuned other C43s?
Right. Cuz we know how well OE treats their customers:/

The following users liked this post:
SALES@OETUNING (09-02-2018)
Old 09-01-2018, 05:49 PM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
ShakyTom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 438
Likes: 0
Received 71 Likes on 58 Posts
C43 AMG Coupe
What is a C43"S"?
Old 09-01-2018, 06:18 PM
  #12  
Member
 
Big Goober's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Houston
Posts: 105
Received 11 Likes on 10 Posts
2017 AMG C43
Seriously, gotta get rid of the "S" badge. Lost me after that pic.
Old 09-01-2018, 06:53 PM
  #13  
Banned
Thread Starter
 
b0kix's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 12 Posts
I bought the car used like that. Going to take S off and maybe add M lol
Old 09-01-2018, 07:22 PM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
HTXgearhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Houston
Posts: 402
Received 126 Likes on 95 Posts
2018 C43 sedan
Originally Posted by b0kix
I bought the car used like that. Going to take S off and maybe add M lol

Old 09-01-2018, 08:36 PM
  #15  
Super Member
 
waisoserious's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Taiwan
Posts: 680
Received 102 Likes on 77 Posts
GLC43, X P100D, S P100D, CT200H
You sure it was a mustang dyno?? All the other mustang DYnos is I read all were around 280-290.

Old 09-02-2018, 01:13 AM
  #16  
Banned
Thread Starter
 
b0kix's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 12 Posts
Originally Posted by waisoserious
You sure it was a mustang dyno?? All the other mustang DYnos is I read all were around 280-290.
yes mustang dyno
Old 09-02-2018, 04:24 AM
  #17  
Junior Member
 
dboey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 53
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
AMG C43 Sedan
Originally Posted by b0kix
Hey guys did some testing on this C43 amg today.
Here is the reason why everyone should get a ECU tune.
all testing done on mustang dyno @solomotorsports in Atlanta at 89 deg weather.




the beast


Dyno graph showing stock v.s Vr speed v.s Solo tune


E63 and C63 flexing...
Nice black wheels, care the share what wheels and size are those. Thanks.
Old 09-02-2018, 08:23 AM
  #18  
Member
 
noah phatt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: penn's woods USA
Posts: 136
Likes: 0
Received 15 Likes on 14 Posts
2019 AMG C43 Sedan
I do like what you did to that chrome strip on the trunk. Is that painted or wrapped?
Old 09-02-2018, 05:11 PM
  #19  
Banned
Thread Starter
 
b0kix's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 12 Posts
Originally Posted by noah phatt
I do like what you did to that chrome strip on the trunk. Is that painted or wrapped?
wrapped
Old 09-05-2018, 06:01 AM
  #20  
Super Member
 
waisoserious's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Taiwan
Posts: 680
Received 102 Likes on 77 Posts
GLC43, X P100D, S P100D, CT200H
Nobody else is baffled that a stock C43 measured 333whp on a mustang dyno?!?!
Old 09-05-2018, 10:46 AM
  #21  
Senior Member
 
HTXgearhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Houston
Posts: 402
Received 126 Likes on 95 Posts
2018 C43 sedan
Originally Posted by waisoserious
Nobody else is baffled that a stock C43 measured 333whp on a mustang dyno?!?!
Yes, doesn’t make sense. Mustang dyno should read around 285 whp and dynojet should be around 333 whp.
Old 09-05-2018, 11:33 AM
  #22  
Senior Member
 
sliqdaddy91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 286
Received 36 Likes on 24 Posts
C450 AMG
It doesn't matter what the mustang dyno reads stock HP, what matters is the difference on the same dyno in same conditions. A full tune showed close to 80 whp gain, and that's what matters. These cars should trap around 117-118 after a full ECU tune in ideal track conditions.
Old 09-05-2018, 01:17 PM
  #23  
Senior Member
 
HTXgearhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Houston
Posts: 402
Received 126 Likes on 95 Posts
2018 C43 sedan
Originally Posted by waisoserious
Nobody else is baffled that a stock C43 measured 333whp on a mustang dyno?!?!
The mustang dyno is a “load” dyno. The operator can adjust some of the inputs like relative humidity, air temp, density altitude, etc. My guess is they want their dyno to read numbers similar to a dynojet, so they purposely adjust some of those factors in their favor. Makes the customer happier to see a higher power figure and still somewhat accurate, but just a guess.
Old 09-06-2018, 12:16 AM
  #24  
Banned
Thread Starter
 
b0kix's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 12 Posts
Originally Posted by sliqdaddy91
It doesn't matter what the mustang dyno reads stock HP, what matters is the difference on the same dyno in same conditions. A full tune showed close to 80 whp gain, and that's what matters. These cars should trap around 117-118 after a full ECU tune in ideal track conditions.

Correct !!
Old 09-06-2018, 12:17 AM
  #25  
Banned
Thread Starter
 
b0kix's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 12 Posts
Originally Posted by HTXgearhead


The mustang dyno is a “load” dyno. The operator can adjust some of the inputs like relative humidity, air temp, density altitude, etc. My guess is they want their dyno to read numbers similar to a dynojet, so they purposely adjust some of those factors in their favor. Makes the customer happier to see a higher power figure and still somewhat accurate, but just a guess.
This dyno is really known to hurt feelings so not sure car is a freak?

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: Stock v.s VR Tunned (piggy back) v.s Ecu Tune !



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:02 PM.