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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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Diff Oil Change & 1k mile check US vs Can

Just curious, it seems we Canuks do not have a courtesy 1000 mile free check, and it seems that we also have to pay out of pocket for the diff oil change. Not sure about wether our US brothers have to pay for theirs?

I would be interested to know? The dealer here says we have to pay for it, but he wasn't to sure, said he'd call me if he heard differently. So I paid ou of pocket. He called the next day, verifying that I did in fact need to pay out of pocket.

I called MB Canada to double check. haven't got a response as of yet.

Our service manual does differ from that of the US, I think you guys show your 1st service as the courtesy check at 1K miles which I'm assuming means that they automatically change your diff oil for free.

Ours in CA does not, our 1st scheduled service is at 15K km does't say anything about the diff oil, anywhere! if the dealer doesn't tell you about it, and you don't catch the little blurb in the full owners manual, or you don't hear about it from other sources, Canuks will be in the dark on this.

Don't count on your salesman, or your dealer, giving you the correct info. Of course, some are more knowledgeable than others, but be diligent ask!
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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Only the LSD gets an oil change at 1,000 miles. It's free, but would only apply to P030 cars.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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I may be wrong, but I bet that any US car with the 030 option will not get a diff oil change for free!
Reason we get a free 1000 miles inspection is that the '08 do not have LSD
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by whoover
Only the LSD gets an oil change at 1,000 miles. It's free, but would only apply to P030 cars.
I'm not sure your correct on that. I could be wrong? Maybe someone else would like to chime in.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ldye
I may be wrong, but I bet that any US car with the 030 option will not get a diff oil change for free!
Reason we get a free 1000 miles inspection is that the '08 do not have LSD
So at your 1K you never had your diff oil changed?
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 03:11 PM
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i dunno i could be totally wrong but...

dont cars WITHOUT the performance package not have a LSD that needs its oilchanged?
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 03:14 PM
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Yes, ONLY the LSD equipped cars get a free differential oil change at 1,000 miles. This includes most P30 models, and of course 65 models. I didn't get mine done until 2200 miles. Then again at 7000+ miles.

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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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Some dealers without a lot of SL65 or 030 experience are clueless, but the AMG LSD gets a free oil change by 1800 miles, typically at the 1,000 mile visit. It's in the book.

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/219074-changing-limited-slip-differential-oil-e63-p30.html discusses how many dealers don't know any of this.

The book also calls for AMG LSD oil to be changed every 40,000 miles. This is on your dime, of course.

The non-LSD diff oil has no specified change interval. It is supposed to be checked for leaks and kept topped up, but the hypoid is never changed according to the MB maintenance schedules, including break-in.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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it clearly states in the manual, under break in period, on c63 amg models that you change the diff oil they make reference to a self-locking rear diff but I dont think that means only the limited slip diff.

otherwise they would state that. Also since it is an 08, the limited slip didn't even exist here, though it did exist in Europe.

Just got confirmation from MB Can for what ever it's worth, that yes you in fact need to have the diff oil changed on all c63 amg models at 1900 miles or 3000 km if it is not done there could be warranty issues. The client is also oblidged to pay out of pocket for this service.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by whoover
Some dealers without a lot of SL65 or 030 experience are clueless, but the AMG LSD gets a free oil change by 1800 miles, typically at the 1,000 mile visit. It's in the book.

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=219074 discusses how many dealers don't know any of this.

The book also calls for AMG LSD oil to be changed every 40,000 miles. This is on your dime, of course.

The non-LSD diff oil has no specified change interval. It is supposed to be checked for leaks and kept topped up, but the hypoid is never changed according to the MB maintenance schedules, including break-in.
True....... here in the U.S. not too many dealers know about this. But now, Mercedes started including this in the owner's manuals, so there is much more awareness of it.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by kimiFan
I'm not sure your correct on that. I could be wrong? Maybe someone else would like to chime in.
my dealer said the 1000-3000 mile service was just a P.R. service to get to know the service staff and writers that you would be working with and a simple check up on the car. the p030 cars arre the only ones that will get the diff service and it should be part of the free check up since there are no p030 cars for 08 they probably wont have the the check up service as they are doing away with the P.R. service
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MB_Forever
True....... here in the U.S. not too many dealers know about this. But now, Mercedes started including this in the owner's manuals, so there is much more awareness of it.
I also informed MB Can when I was on the phone with them that they should state this in the service manual because alot of people are going to miss it, & if it could effect warranty they should make it clear!
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by wilco77@mac.com
my dealer said the 1000-3000 mile service was just a P.R. service to get to know the service staff and writers that you would be working with and a simple check up on the car. the p030 cars arre the only ones that will get the diff service and it should be part of the free check up since there are no p030 cars for 08 they probably wont have the the check up service as they are doing away with the P.R. service
Go figure. Anyway just to reiterate what the Tech @ MB Can said . "All c63 amg regardless of limited slip or not, need to have their oil changed at the said intervals 1900 miles or 3000km.

This is a classic case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. Not to mention the lack of clarity regarding this service in the manuals.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kimiFan
it clearly states in the manual, under break in period, on c63 amg models that you change the diff oil they make reference to a self-locking rear diff but I dont think that means only the limited slip diff.

otherwise they would state that. Also since it is an 08, the limited slip didn't even exist here, though it did exist in Europe.

Just got confirmation from MB Can for what ever it's worth, that yes you in fact need to have the diff oil changed on all c63 amg models at 1900 miles or 3000 km if it is not done there could be warranty issues. The client is also oblidged to pay out of pocket for this service.
Self-locking differential and limited-slip differential are the same thing. Most MB literature calls it "self-locking," and it's very clear.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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Self-locking differential and limited-slip differential are the same thing. Most MB literature calls it "self-locking," and it's very clear.
Then I'm the MORON But regardless their still telling me the oil change needs to be done slip or no slip. Go figure
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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The SL65 is the only model that has the limited-slip standard, but the book makes it clear it gets a free diff oil change.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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Then I'm the MORON But regardless their still telling me the oil change needs to be done slip or no slip. Go figure
I would say the guy telling you that is the moron. He's supposed to know what he's talking about, but is clearly clueless.
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