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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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Game over in speed dept. 2009 CTS-V

http://www.roadfly.com/2009-cadillac-cts-v.html
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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to bad they still havent released a price and production begins Oct. 20th....GM going to kill themselves
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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L O V E it... release a torque monster in time for frost. Typical GM thinking.

I almost bought a first gen CTSV - but the dealer attitude combined with all the rear end problems... made me run like hell for the hills!
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 10:49 PM
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and as the review sez:


Key Specs:
*Limited-slip differential made of cast iron
*Main competitors: BMW M5, Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG, and the Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG
*Engine Type: 6.2L supercharged V8 (LSA)
*0-60 mph: 3.9 seconds

How do you figure game over? We do 0-60 in 3.9 stock (as tested in C&D) and all that is before the tuner magic restores the missing 70 torque and ponies!
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 11:40 PM
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why do we care so much about 1/4mile and 0-60? in the end its still a cadillac compared to an AMG
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by peet
and as the review sez:


Key Specs:
*Limited-slip differential made of cast iron
*Main competitors: BMW M5, Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG, and the Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG
*Engine Type: 6.2L supercharged V8 (LSA)
*0-60 mph: 3.9 seconds

How do you figure game over? We do 0-60 in 3.9 stock (as tested in C&D) and all that is before the tuner magic restores the missing 70 torque and ponies!

where do "we" do a 3.9 0-60? lol.....not a magazine or dragtimes report in the world showing consistent 3.9's out of a c class amg.........do you have a different magazine than I got in the mail from Cd?
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 11:55 PM
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C63 AMG...soon lol
That is crazy fast for a sedan...GM can be awesome sometimes.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 11:56 PM
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where do "we" do a 3.9 0-60? lol.....not a magazine or dragtimes report in the world showing consistent 3.9's out of a c class amg.........do you have a different magazine than I got in the mail from Cd?
Actually C&D Dec 07 issue titled "Hell-Raising Sedans" showed a 3.9 0-60 and 12.3 @ 116 1/4 mile. Have it in front of me

But I do agree, 0-60 doesn't mean much with this kind of power. 0-100 #s mean more to me.

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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 12:04 AM
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why do we care so much about 1/4mile and 0-60? in the end its still a cadillac compared to an AMG
Exactly
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by nrgy
Actually C&D Dec 07 issue titled "Hell-Raising Sedans" showed a 3.9 0-60 and 12.3 @ 116 1/4 mile. Have it in front of me

But I do agree, 0-60 doesn't mean much with this kind of power. 0-100 #s mean more to me.
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I have the same magazine and for those who don't here is the same article but on-line:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...omparison_test
Check out the Powertrain chart 0-60 in 3.9 for the C63.....
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 01:45 AM
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What about style? Comfort? I think C poses better here.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 02:49 AM
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And:

http://www.leftlanenews.com/cts-v-br...r-a-sedan.html

I wonder what Mallett will do:

http://www.mallettcars.com/
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 07:27 AM
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Hmmm, Cadillac or AMG, I think the choice is obvious, unless of course, you want to "Shake Rattle and Roll" american style after 12 months of driving. And please, dont start bashing me about how the american cars have improved so much in this department, i will agree to a certain point about improvement, but nothing like the europeans.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 08:24 AM
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That car is just plain nasty, and you can buy it in a stick. Yeah, the AMG has more cache, but for the first time in a long time, the CTS-V presents a worthy alternative and the quality appears to have risen dramatically. That being said, the way to buy that thing is to wait a year and buy it for 45 grand
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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It's funny how a couple of days ago, a guy pulled up to me on the highway in traffic admiring my C63 & gave me a thumbs up. He had a '07' CTSV. I returned him a thumbs up & he told me he would rather have my car due to the fact that his CTSV left him stranded on the highway not once but twice.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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to bad they still havent released a price and production begins Oct. 20th....GM going to kill themselves
SERIOUSLY? MB would not let you build and configure an 08 C63, same for the 09 C63, did not release pricing on the 09s even after they were at dealerships!, and to top it off has shipped C63s with half of the performance package missing!!

Come on lets be real here, I have a C63 on order but it just irks me when you guys act like MB is the god of manufacturers. If that were to happen to GM you guys would be crucifying them. Personally right now I still prefer the C63(unless it gets delayed one more time at which point i'm throwing in the towel) even though it wont be nearly as fast the CTS-V, but give credit where its due. The CTS-V is going to be one BAD *** car, and this is coming from a car enthusiast, not a nut hanger of one particular brand.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 09:15 PM
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Come on lets be real here, give credit where its due. The CTS-V is going to be one BAD *** car, and this is coming from a car enthusiast, not a nut hanger of one particular brand.
Agreed with the above edited quote. Some awesome specs there. I wish that MB would adopt a type DSG transmission. Plus, it comes with 19" wheels....something MB thinks we don't need because ALL the roads in the US are in bad shape according to MBUSA.

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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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CTS-V poses as a new threat to GM's major European rivals in terms of performance, but I still prefer an European vehicle than Domestics, because I don't buy a car solely for its performance, but the overall package. In terms of CTS-V vs. C63, put it this way, for another 5k, you can get 550hp from Kleemann, add the better fit & finish with better material, the C is a hands down winner in my book.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 11:47 PM
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Just throw on some r-comp tires and the C63 will rape it through the slalom and the 0-60!
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 2MANYCARS
CTS-V poses as a new threat to GM's major European rivals in terms of performance, but I still prefer an European vehicle than Domestics, because I don't buy a car solely for its performance, but the overall package. In terms of CTS-V vs. C63, put it this way, for another 5k, you can get 550hp from Kleemann, add the better fit & finish with better material, the C is a hands down winner in my book.
Yeah, but thats not how it comes from the factory. The same could be said about the CTS-V then, lets add some mods to it and make 650HP, and we are back to square one. Like you said whether anybody likes it or not it is a threat to the Europeans now, btw anybody see the latest Road and Track? They tested one against an M5 at a racetrack in NY, the CTS-V won barely but it did. Can't wait for the car to be released, although I can't wait even more to get my C63.
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Just throw on some r-comp tires and the C63 will rape it through the slalom and the 0-60!
Lets put some R-Comps on the CTS-V? Then what?
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Lets see what Lingenfelter (sp?) could do and then what? This becomes an e-pissing match.....Go check with Jrcart over at the BS forum. He has a current- gen Lingenfelter modded CTS-V and a Evosport BS.

We can agree that AMG has the heritage and pedigree, but stock-for-stock and price, this is a great package.

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Originally Posted by Derek@DRI
Lets put some R-Comps on the CTS-V? Then what?
Then we add some NOS, get some coil overs, camber plates, sway bars, strut bars, light weight wheels (none of that 20 inch bling bling bull****), remove the cat, strip out the interior (**** all the luxury), replace all windows with plexiglasss, put just enough fuel into the fuel tank for a 1/4 mile pass, remove the side mirrors, take out the air conditioning unit. Maybe a turbocharger, or a supercharger, or even both. Delimit the rev limiter so the engine will scream towards 10 000rpm. A winner in my books!
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I love my c63 - but ive got news for everyone - THE NEW CTS-V WILL EAT OUR CAR ALIVE ... NO QUESTION, just look at the specs ... I'm not crazy about caddys either, but we're at a loss this time - 6.2 Supercharged W/ 550 hp ... that car is going to be a total beast ... new pullys, exaust, intake, etc - basically all snap on parts - 650 - 670 hp easy.
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Originally Posted by yooker
Then we add some NOS, get some coil overs, camber plates, sway bars, strut bars, light weight wheels (none of that 20 inch bling bling bull****), remove the cat, strip out the interior (**** all the luxury), replace all windows with plexiglasss, put just enough fuel into the fuel tank for a 1/4 mile pass, remove the side mirrors, take out the air conditioning unit. Maybe a turbocharger, or a supercharger, or even both. Delimit the rev limiter so the engine will scream towards 10 000rpm. A winner in my books!
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