anybody see the top gear review on the POS IS-f???

to bad mr. 8speed was banned already. I think topgear hit the nail on the head with the Lexus. I personally enjoyed the plume of burnt oil the flew out the back of the car as the stig pulled away to start his fast lap. In general Clarkson was not feeling the lexus very much. But we cant say he liked the MB nearly as much as the M3. So the pecking order stands where we expected I think. Lexus brings up the rump followed by the RS-4 then the C63 and finally the M3.

I am just happy the C63 is very close to the M3 and that lexus made a pretty ugly and lousy vehicle.

Yea, they were pretty brutal on the poor IS-F.

I think it is a good first attempt. They needed to price it about 10K less though so people would not feel as bad they did not get as good a car as the competition.

i agree the IS is behind the C and M

but its lexus's first go round

couple of years, and the F series should vastly improve

What Lexus doesn't have is pedigree. Looking at the car objectively, it's pretty good. But purchasers of cars like these are buying more than just the nuts and bolts. They're buying image, status, and a sense of history. Mercedes, BMW, and Audi have those in spades. Lexus won't ever have that if they don't do something (successfully) in motorsports, and I don't mean vicariously through Toyota or TRD.

That's just my two cents...

Amazing from AMG guys who would be more knowledgeable about cars, or so I thought. The ISF is a hell lot better than our C32s, and oh yes, the C43. Have you guys ever driven it? The tranny is way more responsive than my C32, and the chassis tuning, stock for stock, is a step up.

With that said it's not on the same level as the C63 or M3, or even the CTSV. But it needs to be priced less to justify the performance deficiency.

8Speed was annoying, but I wouldn't call the IS-F a POS.

What does IS-F stand for? the first thing I think of is insufficient funds... maybe i see that on my checking account way too much...

No its not a POS but its not equal to the other cars in the segment.

Car and drivers test showed it to be 10 seconds slower than the other cars in its class (being the C63, M3 and CTS-V) when lapping a very long track. Now with that it was the same in lap times as a 135i which is still pretty decent.

Bur for 63k and for the hype surrounding the car the IS-F is a solid first effort but its not going to make people switch over from the Germans. Lexus owners might buy it saying its built so well and that its transmission shifts so quickly but its still not a segment leader.

I cant believe that car had that smoking issue. First the Zonda and now this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK8s8...eature=related

Try this, hope it works, the stig driving the ISF and tonnes of smoke bellowing out the fake four pipe exhaust.

to me it's this in the first place .. and then the way it feels ... every time I sit in a lexus, I don know it just doesn't feel like an Audi, the buttons are still grey and semi tansparent - like in a camry - the wood still shines - like in a Honda - and the door still feels light when you slam it in a non-german way ... I'm sure they're very well built, I'm sure the IS-F, even though a first attempt, is a grear performance drivers car and that its got potential .. but even if I weren't biased (which I am) I wouldn't wanna put this much money on a blinged up Toyota that doesn't have pedigree.

anyway I'm sure it's a great car and you get lots of fun with and its as reliable as a swiss army knife (as someone once said about some car)

Wow you guys really are tuff on the poor lexus. I have driven the car hard and it was rewarding to drive. I enjoyed the handling, the throttle blips, power, and the very nice interior that comes in a lexus. It took a little while but the style really grew on me, so at the end of the day I have alot of respect for lexus for doing a great job with the IS-F. I also saw pics of this modded IS-F on the clublexus site, OMG it looked sick and I think its owned by a girl. Anyone else saw it??

I have also driven the M3 not as hard as the lexus but carrying a good pace. The M3 Felt a little more planted, gave me more feed-back, and the sound was awesome. I must say the lexus in a straight line from a roll pulls down the M3 pretty strong and will keep right on pulling, all that being said the M3 is faster everywhere else.

I have never driven a C63 so I can't say much but from the looks of things, oh boy seems like I'm in for a fun ride, lol

I didn't see it. did she get rid of the fake exhaust tips, do you have pics?

I went looking for it and I found it:
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=395067

ok that is f is clean.

I think Lexus is charging its customers the costs of Research and Development... considering that it's their first.

I just want to point out that the F is $7000 cheaper than the C63 and $12 000 cheaper than an M3 with similar equipment.

thanks.. thats actually mine

WOW..that IS-F is a BEAUTY.

I think Lexus still made a decent effort on their first try at it......I like the styling minus the "layered" Quad Exhaust....

I often miss my 98 GS400....IMO the design still looks great on the road after 10 years...

You'd better not be hot. If you're hot, AND you have those cars, then this world is really not fair.

i think i saw you at rallye MB couple months ago... lol

Well I guess the F stands for Lots of Funds in cathafer's case, lol. Very nice cars you have there miss.

nope wasnt me. i havent been back to rallye mb since i got the gl.. massapequa is closer for me for service so i normally go there

thank you guys for the non-hate of my car

Wow, that IS-F is clean, but that Lambo...it's just pure sex