More info should be flowing in the next several days, I really can not go into much detail at this point.

 

I tried to have this debate with Andy moons ago but he was to bull headed and everyone seemed to have drank the cool-aid already.

You can flash it though the port but sending him you ecu does not change the tune of the TCU.

I think in time the truth will come out.

Here is what I had ready to be posted in the poll thread about Andy. I dont dislike his product since I dont know if it works first hand. I just dont like his attitude or business practices.

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The guy has been suspended what 3 times? This kid has an attitude problem. I don't understand why people respect him or feel they should send him any money at all. The fact that he repeatedly breaks the rules, acts like a two year old, and makes his company look like something run out of closet makes me think he should be left to his own devices.

You don't see the other tuners around here doing this. Its hardly a classy establishment. Do you see Brabus, RENNtech, Kleemann or VPR engaging in this childish bs? From where I stand Andy acts like a drunk college student out to prove that his unit is the largest by means of a bar brawl. Anyone with an opinion different than his is by default a absolute moron who needs to be yelled at and attacked.

Any civil person with an ounce of class and business knowledge would NEVER act the way he does.

His repeated violations TOU, taunting of other tuners, insulting of other tuners, and posting of FALSE information about other tuners products makes me disrespect his business even more.

VRP is the best example of how a sponsor should design and promote parts. Ask Vadim if he would ever disrespect VRP and his own division of the VRP company by acting like Andy. Its not hard to see Andy has created a few fans here but a bucket full of people who think hes a dingus who has an ecu tuner programing cars for him while he runs around the internet starting fights. If his figures are real his TUNER who WRITES the code is talented. All I see Andy do is pick fights (what he considers promoting his product).

I am sure I will get a heap of junk thrown at me after this but hey I am ready for it and really dont mind. Someone should state the facts who does not have a vested interest in the product.

 

Trust me, there are only one or two people posting on this thread that have the inside knowledge that I hav on this entire issue...and it is much bigger than any of you can even imagine.

 

I think the beef is that MHP is full of s***, which should have been obvious to anyone involved. It's not that he's not selling some potentially decent stuff, it's that he is misrepresenting his product and charging PREMIUM dollars to do it.

Also, 449 with the deleted cats and headers is pretty much what everyone else is getting, isn't it?

 

Maybe the powers that be could call for some kind of congressional probe or senate sub-committee into theses shocking allegations and launch a full investigation into this ECU / TCU scandal.

Then after the investigation there could be all new sweeping reforms (for the public good) in the automotive aftermarket, followed up by a recommendation for a federal "ECU Zar" to oversee everything related to the programing of ECU use.



Hey mod, let Andy back on the board to defend himself.


-Troy

 

Got it ... sorry about that. Brain fart.

 

A pole to get membership input on the Andy situation CLOSED!!

Why does that not surprise me.

 

We are way ahead of you........

 

Most compulsive liars and attention-getters are pretty funny guys - that's how they get away with 90% of their BS.

 

Well, you obviously are not satisfied...so is that money back guarantee going to work in your favor...not that you need the money...but could go towards other mods.

 

I was just checking back to see if I have gotten put on suspension yet.

"No soup for you one year" "You go now"

 

This thread is full of a buch of delinquents...it seems every other poster is on probation or banned LOL!

 

LOL, no me, not yet anyway.

 

If the valve body only has some solenoids on top of it and no processor, than what controls the 722.9 trans in vehicles that have the M113 motor in it with ME2.8? I don't think that ME2.8 has the ability to control shifts.

I have replaced dozens and dozens of 722.9 valvebodys for various reasons and the valvebody has to be programed, vin assigned to vehicle, transport lock removed with star diagnosis, and shift adaptations must be performed.

ME9.7 does have a lot to do with trans controls because per MB if either ECU or TCU (valvebody) is programed the other one must also be programed at the same time. Otherwise can control codes will be set and trans may go into limp mode. So there is deffinetly more than just some solenoids on top of that valve body.

I may upload some pics for you guys tonight. just so happens I replaced a .9 valvebody on a 05 E500 today.

 

This thread is really interesting. Tumbling further into the rabbit hole, and I think we are all inclined to go further.

 

this just addressed my previous comments...thank you.

 

I am posting this on behalf of Andy, in lieu of Andy not having access to post:

"if we have the car in person we too can flash the ECU/TCU through the OBDII port."

Thanks,
Adrian

 

Where are you located?

 

BE careful Adrian, you may be suspended for "Posting via Proxy"

 

Hmmmm...... very interesting stuff keeps pouring in here, and I'm glad information is finally coming out

Okay, so now we at least know that the TCU can be flashed without having any components removed from the car at all.

EDIT: Another question here would be: does everything that gets flashed from the OBDII scanner go through the ECU first or can a flash by-pass the ECU and go directly to the TCU

Next, we need to find out if someone can update the TCU by only flashing the ECU....

 

You are correct sir. My tech just TXT'd me back. Said that when the cars are plugged into the system there is a tech in Germany that looks at the car to be upgraded. The programming (ECU) has to be requested online and authorized from MBCanada.

 

Los Angeles, CA at the "Head Quarters" of Internet Brands (the company that owns mbworld.org)

 

Oh well, guess my joke is not so funny after all.

 

Jim, I have to be honest, I find what you're implying to be ridiculous. You act like you just found out Santa is dead, so now you're suing. It's so dumb. Honestly, everyone was questioning MHP/Andy, even people you have worked with and were friends with, yet you didn't care or listen. You were AT THE FRONT CHEERLEADING MHP and Andy. You were probably responsible for most of his business here. And NOW you act like you somehow got the shaft?

WTF?

Caveat emptor.

 

I, like everyone else, are following this thread - seems you gotta get in quick before some posts are deleted.

I am a bit confused though - OP said
"Now for the TCU being inside the ECU. That is entirely false and an outright LIE. You will notice in the attached pictures that even the factory Mercedes repair information shows the TCU inside the transmission, just as I have told my friend. So unless the customer is shipping the entire transmission to you, how are you giving them a TCU reflash?? ..."

But then we have been given evidence that it in fact can be done without sending the entire transmission.

So the OP who apparently knew more than God was just proven wrong by facts ... then JRCart drops in to say (in not as many words) EDIT: something bad is going on.

I have an MHP tune, i would be fairly pissed off if i was scammed, wouldnt surprise me too much though, i mean sh*t like that happens all the time. I can see it going either way for many reasons.

Andy hasnt been on any other forum for a while, and club lexus has caught on to this post ... you think he would defend the claim on another forum, someone would link to it and then this thread would get shut down....

thats what i would do - but i might have just got scammed so what do i know??

PS - Someone should start the poll, "is MHP tune a scam" hahaha i would vote.