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Old 07-16-2009, 12:02 AM
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Keep me posted when you get it done.
thats the 2nd thing i do tomorrow. 1st is i gatta wake up.
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Mthis brought his car to the DYNO today and he got 399 WHP !!!!!!!!!!!

I told you guys who didn't believe that his tune was NOT pushing 428 Whp which is the reason why I beat him. I barely beat him with him pushing 399Whp which PROVES me being STOCK! I'm still bringing my car to the dyno on monday. Mthis will confirm and I will accept apoligies. This should show some of you guys to never be so quick to judge and make statements.
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Originally Posted by E55AMGGG04
Mthis brought his car to the DYNO today and he got 399 WHP !!!!!!!!!!!

I told you guys who didn't believe that his tune was NOT pushing 428 Whp which is the reason why I beat him. I barely beat him with him pushing 399Whp which PROVES me being STOCK! I'm still bringing my car to the dyno on monday. Mthis will confirm and I will accept apoligies. This should show some of you guys to never be so quick to judge and make statements.
What type of dyno was it done on? Damn, I got 403 whp on my dyno sheet (on a Mustang) and I'm completely stock!
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Originally Posted by E55AMGGG04
Mthis brought his car to the DYNO today and he got 399 WHP !!!!!!!!!!!
I hope Mthis can get his tune issues resolved. I remember all the noise about MHP a while back. It got pretty heavy.

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Old 07-16-2009, 05:13 PM
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I hope Mthis can get his tune issues resolved. I remember all the noise about MHP a while back. It got pretty heavy.

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I asked him about it and he said that MHP told him his tune is fine . He's going to show MHP my dyno results to show them he lost to a STOCK E55 with stock Whp #'z. He was supposed to be running 428 Whp but got 399Whp.
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399whp? Holy **** that's not even 400+!! no freakin wonder he lost
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399whp? Holy **** that's not even 400+!! no freakin wonder he lost
How much Whp do Stock C63's have. Do you or anyone else know? It explains why he lost and it proves me right all along that his tune has a issue not me trying to be secretly modded like some of the C63 guys have claimed.
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How much are Whp do Stock C63's have. Do you or anyone else know?
I'm not sure but normally it should be around the 385 whp mark. Even tho Sebring got 403 whp when he dynoed his car stock so IDK
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Yes I dynoed 406 1st pull 2nd 399 Dyno jet sae corrected

Note to everyone I do have the headers tune So it off by 15rw from the v3.

Also I made a mistake. Well the Dyno place did and they printed me # in STD when I got 428rw.

And my v3 dynoed at 421 sae. So the numbers are about rite for this headers tune.

More to come Monday. If his e55 dynos more then my car the there is something wrong. And yes it was very hot today !

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Yes I dynoed 406 1st pull 2nd 399 Dyno jet sae corrected

Note to everyone I do have the headers tune So it off by 15rw from the v3.

Also I made a mistake. Well the Dyno place did and they printed me # in STD when I got 428rw.

And my v3 dynoed at 421 sae. So the numbers are about rite for this headers tune.

More to come Monday. If his e55 dynos more then my car the there is something wrong. And yes it was very hot today !
From what I have been seeing any stock E55 should be doing 400-420Whp. I would say I'm prob going to dyno around 410Whp or a lil less judging by our race and your dyno result.
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Depending on the Temp, humdity and the fans they use will effect your E55 more Met, since you dont wanna heat soak your car and you want enough fans up front to cooll things down.

Today was hott as hell so im sure it was a dyno glory day.

Monday should be fun well make sure the dyno operator gives you some time between each run to cool things down a bit.
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Originally Posted by E55AMGGG04
From what I have been seeing any stock E55 should be doing 400-420Whp. I would say I'm prob going to dyno around 410Whp or a lil less judging by our race and your dyno result.
stock e55 rwhp is 385-395 ... 469 hp and 18 to 20 % drivetrain loss easy math to see what it will dyno at . i had mine on dyno when car was stock and modded so i know what our cars do

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stock e55 rwhp is 385-395 ... 469 hp and 18 to 20 % drivetrain loss easy math to see what it will dyno at . i had mine on dyno when car was stock and modded so i know what our cars do
Yeah but from alot of the SENOIR members here they all say our E55's are under rated and we have 493hp not 469 which is explaining why alot of stock E55's dyno slightly above 400Whp.
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Yeah but from alot of the SENOIR members here they all say our E55's are under rated and we have 493hp not 469 which is explaining why alot of stock E55's dyno slightly above 400Whp.
well 1st hand speaking our cars do what i showed u and have put other e55's on dyno and same #'s
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stock e55 rwhp is 385-395 ... 469 hp and 18 to 20 % drivetrain loss easy math to see what it will dyno at . i had mine on dyno when car was stock and modded so i know what our cars do
What are we talking here? Dynojet , SAE or STD?

I have seen a couple dynos of stock E55's dynoing 400+WHP stock trim on a dynojet?
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What are we talking here? Dynojet , SAE or STD?

I have seen a couple dynos of stock E55's dynoing 400+WHP stock trim on a dynojet?
dyno jet and corrected
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Originally Posted by Brisk335
What are we talking here? Dynojet , SAE or STD?

I have seen a couple dynos of stock E55's dynoing 400+WHP stock trim on a dynojet?
There is a handful of E55 members here on the forum who have 400+whp stock on this forum.

For what it's worth I never mentioned that I have E63 replicas which are a little heavier then my stock wheels.

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Originally Posted by E55AMGGG04
There is a handful of E55 members here on the forum who have 400+whp stock on this forum.

For what it's worth I never mentioned that I have E63 replicas which are a little heavier then my stock wheels.
U got a strong car u ganna Dyno good numbers.
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First of all I want to apologize for my tyrant post a couple of days ago which I have since deleted. Once again, sorry.

Secondly,
Before we jump on MHP we all have to remember what the temps along with humidity and baro currently are. No records are broken during the summer because of performance. Unless you are spraying, which equalizes the outside affects, your car will definitely dyno and perform much worse in the summer heat and humidity. My car during the winter dyno'd above 450rwhp on a regular basis. Since I am making some more changes I did a base line run yesterday before mods and we only got 422rwhp and 380rwtq. I am in Florida and it was 100 degrees, no breese, and high humidy. Due to the conditions I wasn't surprised.

The car has the same MKB headers, MKB tune, 100 octane, etc....... Everything is the same and I believe that doing the math, being at least 30 degrees warmer and MUCH heavier air it can be off by 30rwhp.

My point is based on when mthis did the dyno's and the atmospheric conditions he may be fine. Being off 20rwhp could possibly be right in this heat and humidity. However, the E55 is facing the same thing so it will be interesting to see what the E55 pulls next to the C63 in the same conditions. Good luck guys and be safe!!

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I'll compare the temps on monday to mthis pulls from thursday. Also make sure to get both SAE and STD correction to compare.
Looking forward to this
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Originally Posted by Dads C63
First of all I want to apologize for my tyrant post a couple of days ago which I have since deleted. Once again, sorry.

Secondly,
Before we jump on MHP we all have to remember what the temps along with humidity and baro currently are. No records are broken during the summer because of performance. Unless you are spraying, which equalizes the outside affects, your car will definitely dyno and perform much worse in the summer heat and humidity. My car during the winter dyno'd above 450rwhp on a regular basis. Since I am making some more changes I did a base line run yesterday before mods and we only got 422rwhp and 380rwtq. I am in Florida and it was 100 degrees, no breese, and high humidy. Due to the conditions I wasn't surprised.

The car has the same MKB headers, MKB tune, 100 octane, etc....... Everything is the same and I believe that doing the math, being at least 30 degrees warmer and MUCH heavier air it can be off by 30rwhp.

My point is based on when mthis did the dyno's and the atmospheric conditions he may be fine. Being off 20rwhp could possibly be right in this heat and humidity. However, the E55 is facing the same thing so it will be interesting to see what the E55 pulls next to the C63 in the same conditions. Good luck guys and be safe!!
I appreciate you being a man and apoligizing. I knew something was wrong with his tune since he wasn't beating me knowing that I'm stock. It is obvious mthis car is a lil quicker then a stock C63 because he stayed closer to me but not the 428Whp he thought he had. The night we raced it was 65 degrees out, it was nice and cool so that benefited for me. I'm going to get this dyno done monday so we'll see.
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idk what you guys are talkin about i raced a stock e55 4 times, first one he beat me by half a car bc i had esp on....next 3 races i beat him from 1/2 car to a car and a 1/2....my car is stock
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i think it's safe to say every race situation is different. just too many factors to consider, temp, gas tank, passengers, etc etc etc. even each amg engine outputs differently so go figure.

i've raced my friends e55 for the first time and i was surprised i inched passed him from a roll. then a month or so later we did it again and i couldn't pass him. he passed me up pretty good. and from the majority of the things i've read here, the e55 should be faster than the c63 in stock form. so i'm not surprised i lost the last few times. i'll just consider the first win a lucky fluke.

p.s. can't wait to get a tune from somewhere
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We need more cars for this, this weekend. anyone in NY, NJ or S.I. down???

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