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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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http://www.motorauthority.com/blog/1...cedes-benz-slk

Hey guys, even though this talks about the new SLK, it mentions that the AMG version MAY receive a 3.6L V8 Twin-Turbo engine to replace the 6.2L V8. It also says that this new engine could bring 470hp in stock form. Just thought you guys would be interested.
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 06:24 PM
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Automobile Magazine suggests a 4.6 liter twin turbo V8.

I might get the upcoming SLK if they offer the 6.2 liter V8 before the phase over.

http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...slk/index.html
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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Automobile Magazine suggests a 4.6 liter twin turbo V8.

I might get the upcoming SLK if they offer the 6.2 liter V8 before the phase over.

http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...slk/index.html
guess well just have to wait until 2011! ahaha
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 06:36 PM
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i was rather hoping for a SLK 63 that adapt stuff from bs,C63 and SLS. Like a really sporty version
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 06:43 PM
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I think I read something about a 3.5tt and a 5.4tt for the AMG C class.
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 07:24 PM
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According the Motor Authority:

"The AMG version, however, could deliver a gobsmacking 470 horsepower from a twin-turbo 3.6-liter V-8 engine to replace the aging 6.2-liter V-8 found in the current '63' model family."

I find that entire statement somewhat insulting. First the 6.2 liter V8 is NOT that that old, was once hailed as the most powerful normally aspirated V8 in the world and it has about the same peak power at 460ish HP, depending on what state of tune it is in. I love turbos but unless they offer more of something, all they do is make it more complex. Now a twin turbo 6.2 liter V8 at 700+ hp would be interesting. AMG, are you listening???

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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JG26_Irish
According the Motor Authority:

"The AMG version, however, could deliver a gobsmacking 470 horsepower from a twin-turbo 3.6-liter V-8 engine to replace the aging 6.2-liter V-8 found in the current '63' model family."

I find that entire statement somewhat insulting. First the 6.2 liter V8 is NOT that that old, was once hailed as the most powerful normally aspirated V8 in the world and it has about the same peak power at 460ish HP, depending on what state of tune it is in. I love turbos but unless they offer more of something, all they do is make it more complex. Now a twin turbo 6.2 liter V8 at 700+ hp would be interesting. AMG, are you listening???

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Similar power output but better environmental controls and fuel economy, perhaps?

A 3.6L V8TT could be a rev-happy addition to the AMG lineup; might have great tuning potential as well. Time'll tell, we'll have to wait and see.
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Originally Posted by JG26_Irish
According the Motor Authority:

"The AMG version, however, could deliver a gobsmacking 470 horsepower from a twin-turbo 3.6-liter V-8 engine to replace the aging 6.2-liter V-8 found in the current '63' model family."

I find that entire statement somewhat insulting. First the 6.2 liter V8 is NOT that that old, was once hailed as the most powerful normally aspirated V8 in the world and it has about the same peak power at 460ish HP, depending on what state of tune it is in. I love turbos but unless they offer more of something, all they do is make it more complex. Now a twin turbo 6.2 liter V8 at 700+ hp would be interesting. AMG, are you listening???

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our 6.2L is still the worlds most powerful NA V8...however by the time is replacement comes out well be seeing a few FI 6.2L...AMG left it up to us to take it to the worlds most powerful V8 ever!
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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lighter engine, less weight at front, better handling.
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JG26_Irish
According the Motor Authority:

"The AMG version, however, could deliver a gobsmacking 470 horsepower from a twin-turbo 3.6-liter V-8 engine to replace the aging 6.2-liter V-8 found in the current '63' model family."

I find that entire statement somewhat insulting. First the 6.2 liter V8 is NOT that that old, was once hailed as the most powerful normally aspirated V8 in the world and it has about the same peak power at 460ish HP, depending on what state of tune it is in. I love turbos but unless they offer more of something, all they do is make it more complex. Now a twin turbo 6.2 liter V8 at 700+ hp would be interesting. AMG, are you listening???

Irish
M156 definitly isn't an old engine and it is for sure one of the best engines thats currently in production.

I think the main reason all the big players are switching to twin turbo setup is because of emission and trying to make them look more enviromental friendly.

Turbo car definitely emit less emission and is better than gas compared to our 6.2liter V8. Being able to make big power is just the icing on the cake for the automakers.

To me it the fact everyone is going FI is a sad fact. Powerful, complex high reving NA engines are definitely something many ethuthanists will miss. However FI seems to be the future and nothing can stop this trend. (well unless we find a lot more gas ...). In the end though i just wish the future smaller amg models such as C class and CLK, SLK can be made more of a sports car than just luxury cruisers.

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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 11:01 PM
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Please leave our powerplants alone, no matter how fuel efficient, turbo engines are, the mass 6.2L sound could never be duplicated with these smaller displacement engines, I love this powerplant.
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by C63 DTM AMG
our 6.2L is still the worlds most powerful NA V8...however by the time is replacement comes out well be seeing a few FI 6.2L...AMG left it up to us to take it to the worlds most powerful V8 ever!
Not quite, you forgot about the LS7

http://www.corvettemuseum.com/specs/2006/LS7.shtml
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 11:48 PM
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Not quite, you forgot about the LS7

http://www.corvettemuseum.com/specs/2006/LS7.shtml
well its obviously very powerful but im wondering if there are any NA ones that are putting out more power than the most tuned 6.2L? anyone have any data to prove this? this would be a really cool comparison. Thanks for bringing it up Vegas_AMG!
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 12:09 AM
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well its obviously very powerful but im wondering if there are any NA ones that are putting out more power than the most tuned 6.2L? anyone have any data to prove this? this would be a really cool comparison. Thanks for bringing it up Vegas_AMG!
um yeah, Cam/bolt on Ls7s make an easy 600rwhp.

Lets not even get into headwork.
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GBlansten
I might get the upcoming SLK if they offer the 6.2 liter V8 before the phase over.
I've had a deposit on the "SLK 63" at the local dealer since 2003 or 2004. I just transferred that deposit to my new C63.

I've given up all hope for such a beast... haha
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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um yeah, Cam/bolt on Ls7s make an easy 600rwhp.

Lets not even get into headwork.
i heard that the 6.2L can make that as well
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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M156 and LS7 looks quiet similiar on paper

LS7 does make a lot of power with slight modification but this is only made possible due to the high demand for aftermarket goods for the LS7

M156 is still at the early stage of aftermarket modification and i don't think it will ever get close to the LS7 since there just ain't that many C63s as vettes.

Anyways both are awesome engine
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I've had a deposit on the "SLK 63" at the local dealer since 2003 or 2004. I just transferred that deposit to my new C63.

I've given up all hope for such a beast... haha
When they update the SLK around 2011 model year the new engine bay likely will be large enough to accomodate the 6.2 V8. Obviously the question will be which engine gets the nod for that first year. I sure hope they wedge the 6.2 in there for at least the first year.
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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The w204 is NOT getting nothing changed till w205 as far as motor.

this is from amglounge.
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by GBlansten
When they update the SLK around 2011 model year the new engine bay likely will be large enough to accomodate the 6.2 V8. Obviously the question will be which engine gets the nod for that first year. I sure hope they wedge the 6.2 in there for at least the first year.
IIRC I read in Autoweek that there will be an SLK 63.
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The w204 is NOT getting nothing changed till w205 as far as motor.

this is from amglounge.
Plus one, I agree.
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I've had a deposit on the "SLK 63" at the local dealer since 2003 or 2004. I just transferred that deposit to my new C63.

I've given up all hope for such a beast... haha
So your dealer had been making interest off your money for 6 years? Its not like a SLK63 has even been rumored or announced. In fact, if i'm recalling correctly, on the PL they've said the engine flat out can't fit in the current generation.
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