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Old 11-22-2009, 02:18 AM
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Gotta say that C63 is hell on wheels.

Thanks to
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Many folks have a new respect for the little monster car.

With the proper set up, records will fall.

12.07@117.86 is pretty dam good as is 12.1@117.xxx as is 12.4@115

Plus heads up they held there own.

Great having you guys out today
Old 11-22-2009, 02:33 AM
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So who ran 12.0 at 117mph? you did? what mods do you have?, that is moving... congrats!
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So who ran 12.0 at 117mph? you did? what mods do you have?, that is moving... congrats!
I have a CLS and ran 12.2@115.6,

The 12.07 @117.86 was run by a C63 with Evosoprt(powerchip) tune , exhaust and a Kleeman manifold. Hopefully he will chime in

The Silver Dragon ran a 12.1 @117.x both C63's were traction limited due to moisture in the track.

Phil piloted an ECU tune only car in stock trim with a suit hanging in the back to a 12.4@115
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Surprised no 11s for silver dragon, heard another e55 broke 10s
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Originally Posted by chubbs032
Surprised no 11s for silver dragon, heard another e55 broke 10s

It was an SL55 that is a monster. No E55's hit 10's today.

SL 55 10.89@127

The Silver dragon came on street tires, the SL 55 was trailered in on hoosiers.
11's will be attainable with proper wheel set.
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Surprised no 11s for silver dragon, heard another e55 broke 10s
Yeah, I was a little surprised too. But I just couldn't get it to hook up with the new contis I have. I tried a lot of different launches, but they just wouldn't stick. (sadface) Part of the problem was that it was my first time at the track and I was way too excited and just kept flattening the fast pedal. I wish I could have been able to roll into it more. I think I would have done a lot better. I did manage get a 1.82 60', tho.

But huge (HUGE) ups to Mac for that 12.07! That's a great time.

Next time we're both coming with drag tires and we should knock some serious time off our ETs.

Also, I had a great time. The MB and BMW community are such a bunch of great guys. Big thanks to RARFinancial for the gas at the end of the day. I doubt I would have made it back to the Chevron with out it, let alone been able to run a couple more passes! Everyone was really generous and easygoing and made it a really fun (if not a little frustrating in the car) time.

Juicee, it was good to meet you and I appreciate the launch tips. I wish I could have calmed down and made better use of them, lol. Good stuff amigo. Good stuff.

Lastly, thanks again to MB Forever for taking the effort to get us all coordinated and being so helpful throughout the day. A big gold star for you, buddy!

Josh.
(The dude with the 2nd fastest C63 on the west coast. For now...)

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Yeah, I was a little surprised too. But I just couldn't get it to hook up with the new contis I have. I tried a lot of different launches, but they just wouldn't stick. (sadface) Part of the problem was that it was my first time at the track and I was way too excited and just kept flattening the fast pedal. I wish I could have been able to roll into it more. I think I would have done a lot better. I did manage get a 1.82 60', tho.

But huge (HUGE) ups to Mac for that 12.07! That's a great time.

Next time we're both coming with drag tires and we should knock some serious time off our ETs.

Also, I had a great time. The MB and BMW community are such a bunch of great guys. Big thanks to RARFinancial for the gas at the end of the day. I doubt I would have made it back to the Chevron with out it, let alone been able to run a couple more passes! Everyone was really generous and easygoing and made it a really fun (if not a little frustrating in the car) time.

Lastly, thanks again to MB Forever for taking the effort to get us all coordinated and being so helpful throughout the day. A big gold star for you, buddy!

Until next time,

Josh. The dude with the 2nd fastest C63 on the west coast. For the moment.
Im very happy both of you guys improved so much.

It is not easy and conditions were not as good as we had hoped(traction) although your 1.82 short time is great!

Id like to get a day going with , another German steel event . I really thought this group for as diverse as it was , spectacular.

I see you and Mac having some classic door to door runs and I wanna be there to see it.

I think I have a great Video of you vs Hooley SC C55 vs C63, let me take a look.

Phil : cut the best light at the tree a .007. Phil keep at it man, take the sport coat out , LOL

Great meeting you Josh, I should remember your name quite easily

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congrats on your times guys.almost made 11's. i wounder what was the DA like there. silver dragon what happen man that car is getting 117MPH. something is holding back that lil dragon bc that should be in the 120 range.
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congrats on your times guys.almost made 11's. i wounder what was the DA like there. silver dragon what happen man that car is getting 117MPH. something is holding back that lil dragon bc that should be in the 120 range.
Both cars likely are higher trapping, Famoso had great DA but typically the trap speed is off by 1 mph, the slight head wind .

DA was 150-450 ft all day
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can we see a slip break down please... Curious to see some other details. Great runs btw...
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Both cars likely are higher trapping, Famoso had great DA but typically the trap speed is off by 1 mph, the slight head wind .

DA was 150-450 ft all day
I went 12.0 at 117mph 1.9 60foot in 800+ da with just a tune(header cal-20rw. Only 400rw in 5th gear ). In a slow track. In the summer.

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I went 12.0 at 117mph 1.9 60foot in 800+ da with just a tune. In a slow track. In the summer.
It would be great if all three of you guys could post up your timeslips. I think you posted in the fastest 63 thread? I would like all of you giuys to log your best runs in that thread on the E55/E63 forum.

The fastest 63 yesterday was a CLS :-D
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Originally Posted by juicee63
It would be great if all three of you guys could post up your timeslips. I think you posted in the fastest 63 thread? I would like all of you giuys to log your best runs in that thread on the E55/E63 forum.

The fastest 63 yesterday was a CLS :-D
I posted my stock best run there and nothing got fixed to the list I also have my 11.8 posted on one of the thread in w211. Let me know if u wanna update the list Ill find the thread.
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Originally Posted by juicee63
It would be great if all three of you guys could post up your timeslips. I think you posted in the fastest 63 thread? I would like all of you giuys to log your best runs in that thread on the E55/E63 forum.

The fastest 63 yesterday was a CLS :-D
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Man what a day. I still can't get over how much fun I had. It was a little adrenaline rush every time I lined up on the track. Plus there were so many sick cars that were fun to watch race. And my brain is still vibrating from that goddamned Jeep.

Josh #1- thanks again for all of your pointers, my time definitely wouldn't have improved that much if you hadn't been there to help me out.

Josh #2- I had a great time running with you, it was pretty neck and neck all day. I got my best run around 4:40 and left immediately after that, so I have no doubt that if you had stuck around you could've shaved a few more tenths; there is no doubt in my mind that your car is in fact faster than mine is, not to mention how sick it looks.

Come to think of it, there are too many people for me to list. It was nice to meet all of you, you're all great guys and I can't wait to do hopefully do this again within the next few months.

My time slip from my best run is down in the car, I'll go grab it in a little, take a pic and post it.
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Man what a day. I still can't get over how much fun I had. It was a little adrenaline rush every time I lined up on the track. Plus there were so many sick cars that were fun to watch race. And my brain is still vibrating from that goddamned Jeep.

Josh #1- thanks again for all of your pointers, my time definitely wouldn't have improved that much if you hadn't been there to help me out.

Josh #2- I had a great time running with you, it was pretty neck and neck all day. I got my best run around 4:40 and left immediately after that, so I have no doubt that if you had stuck around you could've shaved a few more tenths; there is no doubt in my mind that your car is in fact faster than mine is, not to mention how sick it looks.

Come to think of it, there are too many people for me to list. It was nice to meet all of you, you're all great guys and I can't wait to do hopefully do this again within the next few months.

My time slip from my best run is down in the car, I'll go grab it in a little, take a pic and post it.
Here is your slip: Please note this was November 21st not the 22nd as indicated by the slip.

Also sadly for me on your first day you beat my best time 12.07, by 2/100ths with your 12.068,

C63 impresses-macgcuc63-3-.jpg

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congrats on your times guys.almost made 11's. i wounder what was the DA like there. silver dragon what happen man that car is getting 117MPH. something is holding back that lil dragon bc that should be in the 120 range.
At Etown or Atco, Josh, and Mac both would have trapped 120+. 11's would have been much easier to hit, including myself.

If the DA was -700 at Famoso, they'd be well into the 11's and 120+ traps. Famoso, unless the DA is minus, is not kind to NA cars, at least in the tons of track days I've seen, if the event were held at Sacramento raceway we probably wouldn't be having this discussion about their trap speeds, which I totally agree with you, are not indicative of how fast these cars really are.

BTW what track is fast in the summer Bro? I'm pretty sure Etown and Atco are not known as slow tracks.
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At Etown or Atco, Josh, and Mac both would have trapped 120+. 11's would have been much easier to hit, including myself.

If the DA was -700 at Famoso, they'd be well into the 11's and 120+ traps. Famoso, unless the DA is minus, is not kind to NA cars, at least in the tons of track days I've seen, if the event were held at Sacramento raceway we probably wouldn't be having this discussion about their trap speeds, which I totally agree with you, are not indicative of how fast these cars really are.

BTW what track is fast in the summer Bro? I'm pretty sure Etown and Atco are not known as slow tracks.
i dont know what u know about the track down here but your wrong.

etown is slower by 2-3 mph then atco and about 4tenth of a sec. this i know for sure i have over 50 passes and slips in both tracks. even sameday passes.

and for the last one, no tracks are faster in summer then winter. i was just saying that i ran a 12.0 in 90F at 117 with a halfa$$ tune. NO HEADERS at etown.

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i dont know what u know about the track down here but your wrong.

etown is slower by 2-3 mph then atco and about 4tenth of a sec. this i know for sure i have over 50 passes and slips in both tracks. even sameday passes.

and for the last one, no tracks are faster in summer then winter. i was just saying that i ran a 12.0 in 90F at 117 with a halfa$$ tune. NO HEADERS at etown.
Never said Etown was faster or slower than Atco, but to say that it's a slow track is wrong based on what I've seen and know from many guys that have ran at that track, M3's, S4's, etc. It's pretty common knowledge both of those tracks can be fast, their results have always been very good in comparison to other tracks around the country, when the air is good of course.

117MPH traps with a half *** tune, no headers in 90F? And that's a slow track? Recently you hit a great time/trap of 11.8 at 119, in 40 degree temps, the DA was probably below sea level I'm guessing? We rarely if ever get those conditions here, and that's completely relevant to ET's and Traps.

Regardless there were plenty of cars there to compare, 3 C63's, all running below what they would at faster tracks, if it matters that much to them then they need to do some runs at Sacramento which is more on par with Etown, Atco, or MIR on the East Coast, all known to be fast tracks.
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Yeah, I was a little surprised too. But I just couldn't get it to hook up with the new contis I have. I tried a lot of different launches, but they just wouldn't stick. (sadface) Part of the problem was that it was my first time at the track and I was way too excited and just kept flattening the fast pedal. I wish I could have been able to roll into it more. I think I would have done a lot better. I did manage get a 1.82 60', tho.

But huge (HUGE) ups to Mac for that 12.07! That's a great time.

Next time we're both coming with drag tires and we should knock some serious time off our ETs.

Also, I had a great time. The MB and BMW community are such a bunch of great guys. Big thanks to RARFinancial for the gas at the end of the day. I doubt I would have made it back to the Chevron with out it, let alone been able to run a couple more passes! Everyone was really generous and easygoing and made it a really fun (if not a little frustrating in the car) time.

Juicee, it was good to meet you and I appreciate the launch tips. I wish I could have calmed down and made better use of them, lol. Good stuff amigo. Good stuff.

Lastly, thanks again to MB Forever for taking the effort to get us all coordinated and being so helpful throughout the day. A big gold star for you, buddy!

Josh.
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Josh, it was great to finally meet you.... you are one cool guy please mark my words.... you will break into the 11s on your next trip out to the strip.... that I promise you

Originally Posted by DLSJ5
If the DA was -700 at Famoso, they'd be well into the 11's and 120+ traps. Famoso, unless the DA is minus, is not kind to NA cars, at least in the tons of track days I've seen, if the event were held at Sacramento raceway we probably wouldn't be having this discussion about their trap speeds, which I totally agree with you, are not indicative of how fast these cars really are.

BTW what track is fast in the summer Bro? I'm pretty sure Etown and Atco are not known as slow tracks.
Drew, let me say again that your car looked

I am very sure your car would have hit 11s yesterday had traction been better. I'm still amazed at how your car hit 12 flats given the conditions. The track was slippery due to the rain at 4 to 6 am. But it turns out DA did not pass 480 all day long. In fact, from 4 to 6 pm, DA dropped from 378 to 165 ft. So although air may have been good, translating the engine power to the ground was not a fun process.

I can't wait to see your car run at Sacramento

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CONGRATS!!!

Looks like the weather was great! A high of 55. WOW!
Wish we could get some of that down here in sunny Florida.
At noon the DA was less than 300 at Famoso so you had some great conditions.

Did Rarefinancial run?? He was supposed to have the new Kleeman throttle bodies? Still looking for a few more HP.

I am sure with better traction you'll both be in the 11's!
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Drew, let me say again that your car looked

I am very sure your car would have hit 11s yesterday had traction been better. I'm still amazed at how your car hit 12 flats given the conditions. The track was slippery due to the rain at 4 to 6 am. But it turns out DA did not pass 480 all day long. In fact, from 4 to 6 pm, DA dropped from 378 to 165 ft. So although air may have been good, translating the engine power to the ground was not a fun process.

I can't wait to see your car run at Sacramento
Thanks Mo, really appreciate all you did! The DA was pretty solid, but nothing like a sticky track with a DA at sea level or below, NA cars just wake up at that point. On the Vbox the car usually traps around 117-119, when the DA is at sea level or below, I never hit over 116 on the Vbox at Famoso, so the car was not as happy as it could have been. Maybe it was that headwind, lmao!! :P

Gotta admit I was a little bummed about not hitting a bit higher trap or the 11.9, the stock DCT hit a best of 111MPH so it makes sense, regardless I had a blast, got a solid time, can't wait to do it again, bunch of awesome cars and great guys, thanks again Brotha!

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CONGRATS!!!

Looks like the weather was great! A high of 55. WOW!
Wish we could get some of that down here in sunny Florida.
At noon the DA was less than 300 at Famoso so you had some great conditions.

Did Rarefinancial run?? He was supposed to have the new Kleeman throttle bodies? Still looking for a few more HP.

I am sure with better traction you'll both be in the 11's!
Are there any MHP cars in socal? It would have been great to see what a car with you setup does out here. Very impressed with your car Bro. What was your 60' on that awesome run?

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Originally Posted by DLSJ5
Never said Etown was faster or slower than Atco, but to say that it's a slow track is wrong based on what I've seen and know from many guys that have ran at that track, M3's, S4's, etc. It's pretty common knowledge both of those tracks can be fast, their results have always been very good in comparison to other tracks around the country, when the air is good of course.

117MPH traps with a half *** tune, no headers in 90F? And that's a slow track? Recently you hit a great time/trap of 11.8 at 119, in 40 degree temps, the DA was probably below sea level I'm guessing? We rarely if ever get those conditions here, and that's completely relevant to ET's and Traps.

Regardless there were plenty of cars there to compare, 3 C63's, all running below what they would at faster tracks, if it matters that much to them then they need to do some runs at Sacramento which is more on par with Etown, Atco, or MIR on the East Coast, all known to be fast tracks.
baised on my knowledge i know etown is slower then atco. i have done sameday trips and ran at both tracks at sameday just to prove how slow etown is, and everyone that knows both track will tell you that.

my trap with halfass tune was run on mickeytoms tires and i had all the grip i can get. when i went to the track last month and ran a 11.8 at 119 i had BALD street tires.

the bottom line is that our etown is your guys famosa. and atco i belive its the 2nd fastest track in u.s soil and mir #1.


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