alqamzi

What is the price TAG going to be for the best headers in the planet?

DFW01E55

Too bad you didn't buy a CLK Black Series.

Thanks for your commentary.

mkonei

well if thats the truth, then youre safe in this forum...just dont venture into the W211 threads, they are not as forgiving over there

hooleyboy

this thread has gone down the toilet

kindafast

lol, take it back with dyno#'s!

jturkel

WHO ARE YOU? and WTH are you doing? this is a blatant attempt at a thread hijack......not only that, but i couldn't help but notice you have only posted in MBH Header threads.....strange?

As an apparent member in other forums, you know damn well that this thread is not the "the perfect thread to begin [your] posting!!!"....especially since your first post in this thread was actually your SECOND post on mbworld, not your first like you claim.......oddly enough, all of your posts have come today in MBH threads about their headers, and one of them wasn't even about the C63, but rather CLS55 headers.

your first post comes in "newb" or "new member" threads, not in the middle of a debate about header design. having been on the forum for one day with four posts does not make you a credible source on headers, regardless of who your relatives are or how many are in this business, whether you own a performance shop with 100 dynos, a "very very expensive cnc mandrel bending machine.".......your reputation for knowledge and buildng good, quality products comes from opinions and experiences from members on this forum with your products. {deleted by moderator}, many of us would appreciate you post your spam elsewhere. Thank you most sincerely, Jim.

edit: Jim, just noticed your "selfless" plug about {deleted by moderator}. I'm pretty sure that violates the TOU on mbworld for non-sponsors.


As for the rest of this thread, there are many ways to develop headers. i can say that common advertisement for reeses peanut butter cups: "there's no wrong way, to eat a reeses"....but keeping in mind there may be better ways to eat them....and perhaps produce headers......hold that thought momentarily. back to it in a moment....

The argument that "doesnt evosport or renntech" make so-and-so this size is not a legitimate argument. It is statements like that which stifle creativity and innovation. I can think of tons of examples off the top of my head....if LET/Eurocharged settled with products/ideas that big name companies and tuners like Evosport produced, where would the C32 be? With the 178mm crank pulley, the C32 only saw 17-18 psi. Now with the 181 and 185mm pulley, the C32s are putting down faster timers and more power at a whopping (yet safe) 21-22 psi (on the 185). Thank g-d, they didn't just settle in and not test out new products and ideas.

Instead of us being self-proclaimed experts about cars online and fighting/arguing in threads (i honestly want to call some of you "internet warriors"....its absolutely pathetic how some of you act online), let the dyno numbers and opinions of independent customers who eventually purchase the upcoming MBH headers speak for themselves. until then,

avengerboater

Geez. If MBH will post the dyno #'s, before/after for both stock AND tuned C63s, it'll put all this to rest...maybe.

Oh, and if he replies to PM's for potential customers, that would be nice too.

MBH motorsports

There is no doubt in my mind, All this BULLS**T I've taken from Andy at MHP's henchman. Is driven by ANDY, MHP, and people who follow that sorry excuse for a man.

His follow up post on another forums site "Absolutely Driven" only show it is ANDY at MHP who is behind all of this. He is speaking from the mouths of some of his customers and henchman so bad... IT makes the Demon Malfus's body possessions look like childes play. Maybe the MODS can perform an exorcism of members possessed by ANDY at MHP. In hopes to restore this thread from the total joke it has become.

You can send all the guys from Ohio and past customer buddys to post in my threads, Hijacking, probing, It wont change the fact that I will be putting out a 63 headers.

MODS PLEASE DO SOMETHING!!!

rarfinancial

Well said Hooley.. Your LT's look great.. Great job putting out more mods for us all to try.. PM sent

MBH motorsports

"Theheaderguy" IS INFACT JIM @ MHP

Here is his quote from www.absolutelydriven.com under the screanname "Jim @ MHP"

Does this sound like something you just read from "TheHeaderGuy".. posted in this thread? This is the work of ANDY at MHP and

Here is the link to that thread http://www.absolutelydriven.com/foru...ead.php?t=5608

Are these the kind of people you want to do business with?

BAN TheHeaderGuy
BAN Dads C63
and ban anyone who probes, and or works for ANDY and MHP!

rarfinancial

WOW.. WTF.... It does smell.... like what? i'm not sure..

superlubricity

That was a bit insulting. There are other "gearheads" here that understand cam lift vs. duration.

MBH motorsports

If I must clear that up, I was writing in a short hand. I should have said exhaust duration @ .050 lift. Our header software just says "lift .050" in the in the segment of the program that asks for that info.


On another note: if this is one on this guy Jim's "babies" it sure was beaten with the ugly stick

LP560-4

Is K2 tune a different ECU than a K1?

LP560-4

Do you have a mechanical engineering degree or something? How can I become knowledgable about this subject like you?

LP560-4

MBH you shouldn't have made this thread until you had a finished product or even with test numbers. No offense btw, I am actually looking for more affordable LT options.

LP560-4

wow, that is sad, makes me think twice about considering their products.

alqamzi

Why the hate??? he is a sponsor like any other sponsors in this website.He just wants to make affordable LTS for our cars and make money like other vendors.

MBH motorsports

Part of the fun of making cool, new, things is to share with people the development along the way. Its how I work. If I know it or am doing it I want everyone to be apart of seeing how something like this comes together. Alot of people dont have the time or ability to be a part of the R&D on something like this. This does not mean they dont share the same passion for cars. It just means there obligations call for them to be elsewhere.

So if taking 10 min out of your day to see what goes into building a set of header...Or just talking about them as an escape from the daily grind. Makes someone say "Hay that cool". Its a neat thing knowing you have contributed to that.

Its a shame when it gets mixed up with negativity.

RLx02

alqamzi

whats ???? the truth??

RLx02

"word" or "werd" is slang for 1) well said 2) agreement 3) truth

...you get the gist.

alqamzi

LOL english is my second language i didn't understand what it means...

Dads C63

Mike,
My original questions were not fueled by Andy and he didn't even know I was talking to you. I do NOT work for MHP but do have their products because they perform. I do not get my experience and knowledge from Andy but from racing for over 25 years and building all different kinds of cars along the way. If you question my knowledge then look through dragtimes.com for Impala SS, Firebird, and Viper times. I am not new to engineering and designing performance products.

The long post you are making reference to was done after the fact and I did not know about it or ask for it. In fact I was bowling with my two sons last night when all this was going on. As far as Jim is concerned I have no idea who he is or how that got started. I never intended for this thread to get out of control or hijacked and for that I again apologize. I am a straight up guy that loves to race and compete.

I originally bought all the MKB packages from Germany and their products were good as well but the long tubes like you will find brought more power to the table and thats the direction we are all taking. You can ban me if you want to but I love to race and was asking some reasonable questions and yes I did question your comments about the 2" primaries. Okay, thats your word against mine and I'll leave that where it landed. You build your tri-Y design with the 2" primaries and your results will speak for themselves. Once again, good luck and let us know how they perform.

TEXC63

Boy the wheels fell of this one!