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Old May 5, 2010 | 07:00 AM
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Kleemann or Brabus

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for a C63 which upgrade would you go for and why: Kleemann K2 or Brabus B63s
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Old May 5, 2010 | 07:20 AM
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money is not an issue? brabus...best bang for the money, K2 forever.
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Old May 5, 2010 | 12:27 PM
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Agreed^

Budget or deep pockets?
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Old May 5, 2010 | 02:09 PM
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thank you for replying
but is it only a budget issue or there is something else like reliability and quality
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Old May 5, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr-Eng
thank you for replying
but is it only a budget issue or there is something else like reliability and quality
Kleemann has been around for a while now. AFAIK, the software is reliable as well as their hardware.
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Old May 5, 2010 | 07:11 PM
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Kleemann - better value for the money. Performance specs on both mods are similar in performance increases but Kleemann is based in CO and has a more complete distributer network in the US. They also have a great reputation for backing up their work.
Brabus I believe uses CES out of CA for US distribution. They are very good as well, but tend to be expensive. Who else makes a $550,000 C63?
I have found Kleemann to be excellent service wise and Corry who works for them is a member on these boards and is has always been very helpful. They did my K1 flash in a day and sent it to my dealer for installation.

Also look at Vath http://www.vaeth.com/tuning.php - I have attached their brochure for your review. They offer the following for $9,100 USD

PN# 204.100.V.508 C 63 AMG - Performance Kit V63RS
Individual fine-tuning of ECU** with Vmax upgrade, including sports
air filter, range manifold system made of VA high-grade steel and
back pressure reducing sports catalytic converters.
- Displacement: 6.208 ccm
- Max. power: 414 kW = 565 PS
- Max. torque: 680 Nm
- Vmax: 315 km/h (depending on tire approval)


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Old May 5, 2010 | 09:05 PM
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My situation here in Taiwan is there is no local dealer for Kleenman nor Vaeth. But Brabus dealer told me they hadn't sold any B63s due to high price. Does anyone have Brabus mod and really enjoy their very high "reliability and quality" after paying high price?
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Old May 5, 2010 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by C63fan
My situation here in Taiwan is there is no local dealer for Kleenman nor Vaeth. But Brabus dealer told me they hadn't sold any B63s due to high price. Does anyone have Brabus mod and really enjoy their very high "reliability and quality" after paying high price?
I equiped my c with the B63S kit. Is expensive but I am really happy with the results and the warranty they offer. But I don´t have any other kit tested so, I can´t compare the Brabus one with other brand´s. In fact a few days ago I install the 3 pieces cf rear spolier of Brabus.
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Old May 5, 2010 | 10:11 PM
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Can you post some pictures?
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Old May 5, 2010 | 10:11 PM
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I would go with VATH for sure if I have the money.
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Old May 6, 2010 | 02:51 AM
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Agree Hiro! that why i m saving up to go with Vath V63RS package, must be one hell of mod.
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Old May 6, 2010 | 02:54 AM
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Hey mate

Can confirm the Vaeth V63RS kit is very very good. Thomas at Rmaspeed can organise it for you
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Old May 6, 2010 | 02:59 AM
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yeah i know mate....but i m in melbourne, and i rather do it directly from Vath, save a little bit....hows the sound? love to hear some feedback after you install it.
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Old May 6, 2010 | 03:05 AM
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Agree Hiro! that why i m saving up to go with Vath V63RS package, must be one hell of mod.
I'm saving up also! All I got is front lip of Vath that is all I can buy so far! But for sure I will get Vath package!
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Old May 6, 2010 | 03:29 AM
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I like the idea of the V63RS too. I called the Brabus dealers here in Melbourne and the kit is 25,000AUD installed. Not sure about that one.

I am going to see these guys on Saturday morning: http://www.fitz-racing.com.au/. Engine back exhaust + tune = 325rwkw for 10,500 AUD installed. They have a demo there for me to check out too.... mmmm. Will report back.
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Old May 6, 2010 | 03:50 AM
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I always prefer Kleemann over Brabus
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Old May 6, 2010 | 05:09 AM
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I think Brabus and Vaeth are more popular in Europe than in the US.

However, I think the prices of the Kleeman K1 and K2 tunes are very reasonable! I would go with Kleeman
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Old May 6, 2010 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by patboyy
yeah i know mate....but i m in melbourne, and i rather do it directly from Vath, save a little bit....hows the sound? love to hear some feedback after you install it.
The sound is awesome! The ML63 is currently getting body kit installed (have attached pic) and will be back in about 7 days and will post a video then. It was already pretty good after having mille miglia mufflers installed but with vaeth headers and cats it is highly addictive noise. I drive around in 2nd and 3rd all time
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Old May 6, 2010 | 04:27 PM
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thanks to all
I think Kleemann is reasonabley priced but Brabus ,as Evo II has, tunning incloud a plug-in play unit that could be used everytime the dealer reinstalls the factory's program.
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Old May 6, 2010 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Maverick1975
The sound is awesome! The ML63 is currently getting body kit installed (have attached pic) and will be back in about 7 days and will post a video then. It was already pretty good after having mille miglia mufflers installed but with vaeth headers and cats it is highly addictive noise. I drive around in 2nd and 3rd all time
That ML63 is aggressive! I like.
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Old May 7, 2010 | 02:12 AM
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Wow...Great ML, thats one hell of bodykit...love it!!!!
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Old May 8, 2010 | 12:55 AM
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Both are reputable companies, but at least with the Kleemann kit there is some type of verification of power and performance gains, as many customers have posted dyno sheets and track numbers on here. But with the Brabus Kit, I don't think anyone posted pre and post dyno results nor did anyone post drag strip results either.
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Old May 8, 2010 | 08:11 AM
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Can I ask to those who have a Brabus kit - is there any additional vibration, harshness or booming noise created from the different cats that they put on?

I ask this as I once paid around £4000 ($6500!!) for a full Hartge exhaust on my previous e92 M3. It created so much extra booming sound and vibration through the car (that actually caused the interior to buzz) that I had to take it off!
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