What do you HATE about your C63?
#53
Member
I hate the keyless go. Mine barely works has a range of about 2 inchs. About half the time I have to actually take the keys out of my pocket for it to work. My BMW keyless works flawlessly.
#55
MBWorld Fanatic!
That is exactly why I passed on this model. Maybe a better interior will appear in two years. Sekurit glass sucks -- the better glass is American, PPG. Benz uses both. The Sekurit on my C43 pitted, the PPG on my C55 is crystal clear 5 years out. Perhaps this is due to the "blue glass" option on my car. Funny thing is, the interior is also the reason I passed on the C32 and went for the C55 after my C43.
#59
MBWorld Fanatic!
Don't like transmission. Want to able to shift faster in up or down. Like M or Ferrari. Need those double clutch. Need vented hood also. More carbon parts like carbon roof, etc and get those weight down.
#60
Super Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Vancouver British Columbia
Posts: 519
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
09 E320 Bluetec
#61
Newbie
Join Date: May 2010
Location: St. Paul, MN
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
SRT-4
It's great to read a thread about what not to like about it. It's the car i've fawned over for awhile now and cant wait to get a test drive in. I hope it to be my first Benz, just gotta wait for the pay raise to enjoy all these frustrating options.
#62
Super Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 520
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
2014 Lotus Evora S
Interesting thread. There seems to be 4 categories of items identified by all of us:
1. Those that relate to the lack of knowledge on how the car works and its options
2. Those that would significantly increase the price of the car either by adding more upgraded mechanical parts (e.g. LSD, transmission, ...) or by losing economies of scale with the regular C-Class (e.g. rear fenders, glove box, ...)
3. Those that would have made us happier without significantly changing the cost by much - but hard to modify by ourselves (e.g. noisy ventilation)
4. Same as 3 but easy to change (e.g. tire size)
I can read the manual for Category 1 and I didn't pay for Category 2 so I cannot complain too much. I have already changed what I found important in Category 4 (tires and ECU) so I'm left with Category 3. My favorite things to hate are:
- The navigation system that does not show all the street names where I live (in Toronto, not exactly a small city).
- The bluetooth connection that does not sync the update of my phonebook
- The interior cabin feels like too much plastic. Depending on the weather, I hear vibration here and there but never at the same spot and it's not constant so very hard to fix. The long ventilation grid at the rear is my worst enemy. But perhaps this one falls in Category 2 (I paid for a C-Class not an E-Class).
I read the comments about mirrors and Ipod integration but I don't have those issues. Maybe it's because the US model seems to be less equipped than the Canadian or ROW models.
1. Those that relate to the lack of knowledge on how the car works and its options
2. Those that would significantly increase the price of the car either by adding more upgraded mechanical parts (e.g. LSD, transmission, ...) or by losing economies of scale with the regular C-Class (e.g. rear fenders, glove box, ...)
3. Those that would have made us happier without significantly changing the cost by much - but hard to modify by ourselves (e.g. noisy ventilation)
4. Same as 3 but easy to change (e.g. tire size)
I can read the manual for Category 1 and I didn't pay for Category 2 so I cannot complain too much. I have already changed what I found important in Category 4 (tires and ECU) so I'm left with Category 3. My favorite things to hate are:
- The navigation system that does not show all the street names where I live (in Toronto, not exactly a small city).
- The bluetooth connection that does not sync the update of my phonebook
- The interior cabin feels like too much plastic. Depending on the weather, I hear vibration here and there but never at the same spot and it's not constant so very hard to fix. The long ventilation grid at the rear is my worst enemy. But perhaps this one falls in Category 2 (I paid for a C-Class not an E-Class).
I read the comments about mirrors and Ipod integration but I don't have those issues. Maybe it's because the US model seems to be less equipped than the Canadian or ROW models.
#64
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Washington DC
Posts: 311
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
axe muderer with headlights
In no specific order for MY2009:
- Missing front windshield tint
- No DCT-type transmission offered
- No live traffic in navigation
- No USB storage support
- No comfort access
- No audio control on steering wheel
- No bluetooth contact synch on pairing
- No dual view of music + navigation
- No ventilated seats
- No track repeat option
- No folding mirrors
- No chromatic right mirror
- No venting for hood
- No sunroof delete option
- No rear fender room for BBS LMs
- No swivel headlights
- Very small tyres
- Useless number keypad on console
- Wrong turn signal stalk position
- Pitiful premium speakers
- Motorized navigation screen/LCD
- No trans-reflective LCD
- No pouch behind passenger seat for storage
- No flashlight included in car
- Crappy door pins, do not slide in all the way when locked
- Cannot save mp3s directly to internal HDD
- Generally cheap interior
- TONS of rattles and squeaks
- IR direct line of sight needed to open windows
- 2 Coin cell batteries needed for key FOB
- No parking sensor, front and back
- Soft windshield glass
- Rough leather on steering wheel, thin padding
- Small fuel tank capacity
- COMMAND needs better integration to control all vehicle settings
- No street names visible on maps unless zoomed in 100%
- Way too much chrome trim EVERYWHERE
Last edited by iatacs19; 06-03-2010 at 03:52 PM.
#65
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,955
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes
on
7 Posts
2017 Mini Cooper S Clubman ALL4 - British Racing Green
In no specific order for MY2009:
- Missing front windshield tint
- No DCT-type transmission offered
- No live traffic in navigation
- No USB storage support
- No comfort access
- No audio control on steering wheel - This exists, but is limited in scope
- No bluetooth contact synch on pairing
- No dual view of music + navigation - This exists, but again, also limited in scope to the tiny screen in the speedo for one or the other
- No ventilated seats
- No track repeat option
- No folding mirrors
- No chromatic right mirror
- No venting for hood
- No sunroof delete option
- No rear fender room for BBS LMs
- No swivel headlights
- Very small tyres
- Useless number keypad on console
- Wrong turn signal stalk position
- Pitiful premium speakers
- Motorized navigation screen/LCD
- No trans-reflective LCD
- No pouch behind passenger seat for storage
- No flashlight included in car
- Crappy door pins, do not slide in all the way when locked
- Cannot save mp3s directly to internal HDD
- Generally cheap interior
- TONS of rattles and squeaks
- IR direct line of sight needed to open windows - This is for security reasons so random joe who found keys cannot just open the windows to determine the vehicle
- 2 Coin cell batteries needed for key FOB
- No parking sensor, front and back
- Soft windshield glass
- Rough leather on steering wheel, thin padding
- Small fuel tank capacity
- COMMAND needs better integration to control all vehicle settings
- No street names visible on maps unless zoomed in 100%
#66
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Miami
Posts: 414
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
C63 AMG
I was thinking about the gripes I had the other day while the car was in for service but when I got it back and after driving it for a few hours in manual mode, I honestly forgot about everything else.
#67
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sydney & the NSW Central Coast, Australia
Posts: 499
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
C63 AMG, BMW 135i
Thanks Alex, I had already seen this when going through the owner’s manual after I brought the car and found it too small. I’m use to the numeric characters in some of my cars being about an inch and a half high and would prefer the same in the C63. Still it’s not a complaint, it would just assist my bad eyes when continuously checking speed for all the fixed speed cameras in my area. All up I brought the car for the package it is, if I wasn’t very happy with it, I’d get rid of it and buy something else. I can’t see that happening soon.
.
#68
gripes
as some of you already mentioned, a lot of things we would like to have improved would have increased the price of the car as well. the package or value of this car or fun factor per USD cannot be had in any other car. there will always be trade offs. i do think this is a great thread though because these are all good suggestion for the next C....AMG, i hope they listing in germany.
i am surprised i hear very few complaints about the side bolster support which in my opinion should allow us to to set up the seat huggers slightly wider. i have a 32inch waste and like to work out but now that i own this car i am only allowed to work out my shoulders and chest, back is out of the question. i am comfortable with the setting on wide as posible but there is no room for
additional body fat etc.
also nobody seems to complain about the fact that it is impossible , at least in my car, to set up the right mirror such that when the car is put in reverse the mirror adjusts so you can see where you are going with the right rear wheels and avoid wheel rash against the curb when parallel parking. maybe i am missing something but i have tried many things. i have now followed somebodies suggestion to setup one of the other pre-set buttons in the door with a different setting of the right mirror. bad side about the system is that i have to keep holding the dang button until it has found the new setting rather then pushing it one time and finds the appropriate setting.
i still have an M3 and the wife a touareg and it works on those cars, this should have been a simple fix.
i do love the fact the this car is not over loaded/bloaded with technology like the new M3. after 2 M3's i thought i was going to get an other one until i test drove the beast. it may not be as nimble but at least you can still feel where this animal is going. and can you hear that growl! HELLLOOO!
i am surprised i hear very few complaints about the side bolster support which in my opinion should allow us to to set up the seat huggers slightly wider. i have a 32inch waste and like to work out but now that i own this car i am only allowed to work out my shoulders and chest, back is out of the question. i am comfortable with the setting on wide as posible but there is no room for
additional body fat etc.
also nobody seems to complain about the fact that it is impossible , at least in my car, to set up the right mirror such that when the car is put in reverse the mirror adjusts so you can see where you are going with the right rear wheels and avoid wheel rash against the curb when parallel parking. maybe i am missing something but i have tried many things. i have now followed somebodies suggestion to setup one of the other pre-set buttons in the door with a different setting of the right mirror. bad side about the system is that i have to keep holding the dang button until it has found the new setting rather then pushing it one time and finds the appropriate setting.
i still have an M3 and the wife a touareg and it works on those cars, this should have been a simple fix.
i do love the fact the this car is not over loaded/bloaded with technology like the new M3. after 2 M3's i thought i was going to get an other one until i test drove the beast. it may not be as nimble but at least you can still feel where this animal is going. and can you hear that growl! HELLLOOO!
#69
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Relocated
Posts: 4,418
Received 382 Likes
on
237 Posts
2010 Irridium Silver MB C63 AMG Sedan
In no specific order for MY2009:
- Missing front windshield tint
- No DCT-type transmission offered
- No live traffic in navigation
- No USB storage support
- No comfort access
- No audio control on steering wheel
- No bluetooth contact synch on pairing
- No dual view of music + navigation
- No ventilated seats
- No track repeat option
- No folding mirrors
- No chromatic right mirror
- No venting for hood
- No sunroof delete option
- No rear fender room for BBS LMs
- No swivel headlights
- Very small tyres
- Useless number keypad on console
- Wrong turn signal stalk position
- Pitiful premium speakers
- Motorized navigation screen/LCD
- No trans-reflective LCD
- No pouch behind passenger seat for storage
- No flashlight included in car
- Crappy door pins, do not slide in all the way when locked
- Cannot save mp3s directly to internal HDD
- Generally cheap interior
- TONS of rattles and squeaks
- IR direct line of sight needed to open windows
- 2 Coin cell batteries needed for key FOB
- No parking sensor, front and back
- Soft windshield glass
- Rough leather on steering wheel, thin padding
- Small fuel tank capacity
- COMMAND needs better integration to control all vehicle settings
- No street names visible on maps unless zoomed in 100%
- Way too much chrome trim EVERYWHERE
THE TRUE MOTHER LIST.
#70
MBWorld Fanatic!
No ofense but the vast majority of the list are minor "inconvenience/comfort"stuff. The real issue from the engineering stand point has been the poor decision of the tires, the rims width and the lack of flrae wider rear fenders(quarter panel or whatever you want to call it).
It is unaceptable that this car runs on ****ty a$$ 255. This is probably a car that shouldbe inscribedregistered in the guiness book of being the car with the most power with the lesser tire surface. The ****tiest part of all is that the engineers did not leave room to fit much larger needes rims.
I personally could care less if the list grows to 100 whinny comfort items. The most important issue has always been the traction, followed by the lack of rear LSD (should be standard).
This car could have been significantly faster, brake better and had better gas mileage had the engineer put decent rubber and lighten the car a little bit, 3960lbs on a local scale with 1/4 gas tank ain't cool.
It is unaceptable that this car runs on ****ty a$$ 255. This is probably a car that shouldbe inscribedregistered in the guiness book of being the car with the most power with the lesser tire surface. The ****tiest part of all is that the engineers did not leave room to fit much larger needes rims.
I personally could care less if the list grows to 100 whinny comfort items. The most important issue has always been the traction, followed by the lack of rear LSD (should be standard).
This car could have been significantly faster, brake better and had better gas mileage had the engineer put decent rubber and lighten the car a little bit, 3960lbs on a local scale with 1/4 gas tank ain't cool.
Last edited by C63newdude; 06-04-2010 at 12:34 AM.
#71
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,955
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes
on
7 Posts
2017 Mini Cooper S Clubman ALL4 - British Racing Green
i am surprised i hear very few complaints about the side bolster support which in my opinion should allow us to to set up the seat huggers slightly wider. i have a 32inch waste and like to work out but now that i own this car i am only allowed to work out my shoulders and chest, back is out of the question. i am comfortable with the setting on wide as posible but there is no room for additional body fat etc.
#72
Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Brooklyn NY
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
2010 C63
had the c63 for about a month now, and reading all of this there is a lot of room for improvement.
I feel that the biggest mistakes MB has made are the:
1)door pins.
a) they look like crap, and b) i can't smoke a cigarette normally, nor put my hand on the window... (any recommendations on that? )
2)Ipod integration in the little glove box does NOT make sense, it should be in the armrest(my infiniti had that lol)
3) Folding mirrors
4) Back-up sensors
5) Wider tires...
6)Bigger tank
7) AMG Button!!!
Why does an M3 have one....
My friend has his set which turns off traction, lowers the suspension, and tightens it.
Anyway these issues are minor and the car itself has such an amazing ride that i close my eyes on these things...
but the door pins are just a joke!
I feel that the biggest mistakes MB has made are the:
1)door pins.
a) they look like crap, and b) i can't smoke a cigarette normally, nor put my hand on the window... (any recommendations on that? )
2)Ipod integration in the little glove box does NOT make sense, it should be in the armrest(my infiniti had that lol)
3) Folding mirrors
4) Back-up sensors
5) Wider tires...
6)Bigger tank
7) AMG Button!!!
Why does an M3 have one....
My friend has his set which turns off traction, lowers the suspension, and tightens it.
Anyway these issues are minor and the car itself has such an amazing ride that i close my eyes on these things...
but the door pins are just a joke!
#73
MBWorld Fanatic!
Did I mention before not having a vented aluminum hood? They give us aluminum fenders, but one heavy-*** hood. Also need more ventilation in the engine bay to let all of that heat escape. Everytime I park in the garage, I have to open the hood up.
#75
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sydney & the NSW Central Coast, Australia
Posts: 499
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
C63 AMG, BMW 135i
A lot of the comfort features listed as lacking in some parts of the world are available stock here, e.g. audio integration, folding mirrors, front and rear parking sensors etc.
The big issue for me is being under tyred. I had to go aftermarket to fix that.
I wish it had been engineered with enough space to install forced induction.
Very true, the fact we have to put up with those is a complete disgrace.
.
The big issue for me is being under tyred. I had to go aftermarket to fix that.
I wish it had been engineered with enough space to install forced induction.
.
Last edited by sjhugh; 08-15-2010 at 08:15 AM.