looking for members who've installed the cargraphic headers
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'10 C63
looking for members who've installed the cargraphic headers
i think from reading through threads, i was only able to find one member RNS- 11z who has them...
is there any more information regarding these headers like dyno charts, expected gains and such.
i've seen some vids of the sound but that was a full exhaust system.
is there any more information regarding these headers like dyno charts, expected gains and such.
i've seen some vids of the sound but that was a full exhaust system.
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I was looking into the Cargraphic system and the problem is that you cannot use the headers alone and must buy the mid-pipes. By the time you do that, you could buy the MBH setup.
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The car graphic system is not a true LTH system. I can tell you when i modified my collector cone and extended the header pipes i lost some 15rwhp. How ever insaying that i ran my pb 12.0 @ 121mph. I believe i could go evenfaster.
I gained a good 5mph over the stock exhaust. The welds on the system is perfect. The valve control works perfect. The only thing i would recommend is take off the little stoppers on the clamps (if you buy the system you will know what i mean).
If you want pricing, google BPS Chiptek in Australia brisbane and email James.
H
I gained a good 5mph over the stock exhaust. The welds on the system is perfect. The valve control works perfect. The only thing i would recommend is take off the little stoppers on the clamps (if you buy the system you will know what i mean).
If you want pricing, google BPS Chiptek in Australia brisbane and email James.
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MHP set comes with the mid pipes as well doesn't it? but just bolts on
i was told the cargraphic is just bolt on. i'm not looking for the full system all the way to replacing the mufflers.
if i get the headers and mid pipes, isn't that essentially the same? what am i missing?
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The car graphic system is not a true LTH system. I can tell you when i modified my collector cone and extended the header pipes i lost some 15rwhp. How ever insaying that i ran my pb 12.0 @ 121mph. I believe i could go evenfaster.
I gained a good 5mph over the stock exhaust. The welds on the system is perfect. The valve control works perfect. The only thing i would recommend is take off the little stoppers on the clamps (if you buy the system you will know what i mean).
If you want pricing, google BPS Chiptek in Australia brisbane and email James.
H
I gained a good 5mph over the stock exhaust. The welds on the system is perfect. The valve control works perfect. The only thing i would recommend is take off the little stoppers on the clamps (if you buy the system you will know what i mean).
If you want pricing, google BPS Chiptek in Australia brisbane and email James.
H
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The Cargraphic setup with mid pipes is like the MHP setup (installation wise). It takes you from the heads to the the resonator and is bolt-on. Supersprint has a setup coming our way soon. But according to Evosport and others, they had warranty issues in the past and drop them as a supplier. YMMV.
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The Cargraphic setup with mid pipes is like the MHP setup (installation wise). It takes you from the heads to the the resonator and is bolt-on. Supersprint has a setup coming our way soon. But according to Evosport and others, they had warranty issues in the past and drop them as a supplier. YMMV.
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See here for dyno charts on Cargraphics. https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...ers-c63-3.html
there are some gains so that's better than nothing
i'll definitely be getting a custom tune with it so hopefully i'll get the most out of them when installed.
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not only were the thumbnails so small i missed the dynos in my own thread, it barely enlarges to see it clearly.
there are some gains so that's better than nothing
i'll definitely be getting a custom tune with it so hopefully i'll get the most out of them when installed.
there are some gains so that's better than nothing
i'll definitely be getting a custom tune with it so hopefully i'll get the most out of them when installed.
http://www.cargraphic.de/index.php?/...218,5078,5595/ I have them but they exceed size allowed for attachments. Send me email address by PM and I will send them.
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Hi guys,
I've just ordered my cargraphic exhaust and tune from Jason @ BPS (Bayside Performance in QLD, Australia) with the exhaust and tune being fitted by Andrew @ Superior Automotive in Mona Vale, Sydney. Will post results and video of pre and post dyno when completed.
Can't wait to see the results!
Cheers,
John
I've just ordered my cargraphic exhaust and tune from Jason @ BPS (Bayside Performance in QLD, Australia) with the exhaust and tune being fitted by Andrew @ Superior Automotive in Mona Vale, Sydney. Will post results and video of pre and post dyno when completed.
Can't wait to see the results!
Cheers,
John
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That doesn't seem like a bad price as a tune is around $2,000 plus.
I live in Brisbane not far from BPS. I was thinking of just getting the remote rear mufflers but not sure if it's possible to bolt on factory system.
I live in Brisbane not far from BPS. I was thinking of just getting the remote rear mufflers but not sure if it's possible to bolt on factory system.
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I have a question. Are the things you're buying from James at BPS real Car Graphic products or replicas?
I contacted a shop here in Melbourne that has contact with Car Graphic and the head of sales in Germany said they don't/havn't dealt with anyone from Brisbane/BPS/etc. Maybe he buys through a dealer or something, I dunno.
Anyway, the reason I ask is because the best price we could get here in Melbourne was like 5000 euro, which, once converted and then freight added on top, I don't know how BPS offer it for the same price but in AUD and delivered to my door.
I contacted a shop here in Melbourne that has contact with Car Graphic and the head of sales in Germany said they don't/havn't dealt with anyone from Brisbane/BPS/etc. Maybe he buys through a dealer or something, I dunno.
Anyway, the reason I ask is because the best price we could get here in Melbourne was like 5000 euro, which, once converted and then freight added on top, I don't know how BPS offer it for the same price but in AUD and delivered to my door.
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My understanding is that the exhaust is a replica. Apparently the exhaust is made by the same manufacturer/fabricator that cargraphic use. Either way, I'm expecting good things for dropping $7K on a tune/exhaust. I'll keep you posted with pics and videos.
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gyrex, did you get the system with or with out cats?
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So wait a second, you guys are paying 5k+ for a system that's not even authentic (replica)? How much does the real cargraphic header system cost? 10k?
