jobee

hello guys... i havent been on the forums for a while, i use to own a SLK55 but have now moved on to a C63, i currently have ECU and a pulley kit installed on my car. Now my question is, after some internet surfing... i came across MHP upgraded thermostat just wondering what you guys think about this mod ? is it worth it ? sorry if this is adumb question... i just didn't want to get scammed since i'm a female

thanks in advance

sflgator

The C63 AMG really doesn't get overheated, which is why all the other tuners haven't developed a lower temp t-stat.

jobee

i wanted to purchase the kleemann TB kit for my car, but i'm still not 100% it's worth the $4000 so i'm delaying the purchase... my excuse for a new hand bag

GHAZAN

you have poor taste in mods (ecu -- pulley - tb kit??)... i can only imagine your hand bags

hhughes1

It is an oem part made by Mercedes for the Gulf States. Normal driving would not warrant the upgrade but it is great if you plan any track time in hot climates.

Sheep

Is it a Ferragamo? I really don't know enough about bags, but I am interested in your experience with the SLK55, as it rank pretty high on my list of cars after the C63 .

Sheep

jobee

the SLK55 was a nice car, i had installed a kleemann ECU, pulleys and eissenmann exhaust on it,i was thinking about a kleemann supercharger for it, but was debating over a new C63 or supercharged SLK55, i loved it, but i figured there wasn't enough space with just the 2 seats so i upgraded to the bigger C63...no regrets here

oh its a CHANEL

jobee

so i guess i shouldn't even think about this, since its not really needed

GHAZAN

Interesting...is there a different part # of it?

jobee

from what i know its just a modified stock thermostat, same part # as the ones we have

SonnyakaPig

The thermostat would be lower temperature than stock.

If you got the aftermarket t-stat, you would have to get your tune updated to reflect the lower t-stat temperature.

The ECU tells the t-stat when to open, which then tells the fans to go on. When fans come on at a lower temp (i.e., earlier), there should be some definite cooling benefits, at least in your engine coolant temp.

Pretty standard to do on forced induction cars with V-8's. The C63, on the other hand, is naturally aspirated, but it nevertheless still generates a ton of underhood heat.

I can't see a downside to getting a lower temp t-stat, but if yo do, remember to get the tune updated.

But as others have said, unless you're tracking the car, I believe the stock t-stat will work fine. I live in 110* F + Summers and I don't think my car needs one.

SonnyakaPig

I can't see the benefit unless you have larger cams and better flowing heads, headers, high-flo cats, ROW or better air boxes. And even then, I would still think the OEM TB's would flow enough air.

That said, I understand being N/A we need to find every hp we can, anywhere we can. So, if a few more hp matters, then forego the Chanel. ; )

RStevens63

No other tuners have cams either except for AMG with the SLS, does that mean we don't need them? Hell no.

jobee, ask others who have the part in question what they think of it, who cares what others that don't have it or any experience with it say.

jobee

i guess your right.... for $350 hell just get it, and pray that its doing its job while your doing laps at the track,

so the cams from the SLS are these just drop in parts, i'd like to teach the boys i track with in their S2000's a lesson

sflgator

FWIW - I actually have the lower temp t-stat (which is a modified oem MB AMG t-stat) and don't see any difference in temp although I do not track my car (however, I do live in a very warm tropical climate ).

jobee

any idea what was modified, maybe a spring or something similar... if thats the case, maybe i could beg my tech to modify it... and maybe save some extra cash for .....WINTER BOOTS

sflgator

Yes, the spring and such. However, not much if any diff than stock. I think if you want more power, you should get a set of LT Headers; I'm having the MBH LT bolt-on header system installed next week!

https://mbworld.org/forums/4265595-post43.html

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...available.html

RStevens63

You have a MHP Thermostat?

Your logic against it was that no other tuner made it so it must not work which is illogical I think.

Brabus put a TT V12 in a C-Class, they are the only ones, it works.

RStevens63

The guys that run it stand behind it, I don't think that would be the case if it didn't work. The carbonio boxes for instance have been proven to show no gain on track or dyno. mthis and dodger63 did a nice track experiment for us and proved this.

A cooler motor is a happy motor.

sflgator

Hint - The "MHP" lower temp T-stat is not manufactured by MHP. btw - I never said it doesn't work (in other cars); I just said I didn't see any difference in my car but I do not regularly track my car either.

GHAZAN

So what's the modification it has to be similar to what can be done to other cars? Thermostats aren't that complex are they?

Jons95c36amg

Thermostat waste of money on a NA motor. I have a tune which really wakes up the car but doesnt affect oil,water temp.

andy_c63

Can you get one for $30 or I am missing something?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Beck-...-/390273264097
http://www.amazon.com/Beck-Arnley-14...3074056&sr=1-1