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Old 11-17-2010, 07:09 PM
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I forgot to lower the pressure in the tires.. I was excited.. Haha
Hey it happens...I know someone that did the same thing....
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Originally Posted by PetroC55
I hope some records go down. Remember guys, regardless
of the tune, we are all trying for the same thing, to advance
the 63 platform.

Also, keep in mind the track can be a heartbreaker. Every
car I've ever owned always felt faster on the street but
the track was a different story.
Yes it is that's why I've Been telling these guys not to get there hopes up you have an 11.85... Not easy to get as u no.. And there expecting sub 11.6 there first time tune only.. I hope they do but it's better in my opinion to call higher and perform better.. Just my $.02 yea in no it's not worth much
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Originally Posted by PetroC55
I hope some records go down. Remember guys, regardless
of the tune, we are all trying for the same thing, to advance
the 63 platform.

Also, keep in mind the track can be a heartbreaker. Every
car I've ever owned always felt faster on the street but
the track was a different story.
Originally Posted by Even Money
Hey it happens...I know someone that did the same thing....
Was it you.. I'm just getting use to the track as this will be my 5th time ever going!
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Was it you.. I'm just getting use to the track as this will be my 5th time ever going!
I would have done it the first time had someone not told me what to do...but no, it was one of my "racing buddies."

I'll be impressed if they run 11.6 on tune only....they would have to have everything go their way for that to happen, if it's putting out enough hp.
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Originally Posted by Even Money
I would have done it the first time had someone not told me what to do...but no, it was one of my "racing buddies."

I'll be impressed if they run 11.6 on tune only....they would have to have everything go their way for that to happen, if it's putting out enough hp.
Including the wind.. But we will see Monday!
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Yes it is that's why I've Been telling these guys not to get there hopes up you have an 11.85... Not easy to get as u no.. And there expecting sub 11.6 there first time tune only.. I hope they do but it's better in my opinion to call higher and perform better.. Just my $.02 yea in no it's not worth much

an MHP tune only on this forum got an 11.6 on DR's. If he can do it its possible. Im no track noob bro. I know what it takes to get there. If you have the power, you will get it done soon enough.

Im curious at to the dyno numbers for PetroC55. The one in his sig are tune only dyno numbers no including the headers?
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Originally Posted by propain
Yeah rather than derailing this thread even more...


This thread has turned into C63 general discussion. I forget what the OP's post was about...
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Including the wind.. But we will see Monday!

But MHP got it done... lol...

You guys get stock options or something?
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Basically that it's a lot harder to run these ETs and traps than most seem to think. It's not an automatic or given just because someone else was able to do it with different parts. A 11.3 @ 121 is more impressive than an 11.8@121, because when the 11.8 car hooks MPH is going to drop. Whereas if the 11.3 car spins it's going to go up.
I totally agree, how ever, in my car everytime i went quicker my mph increased. When i wheelspun more with the same et as no wheelspin my mph was slower. What your saying holds true, but my mph has been consistant with 119-121 even though my et was 11.9-12.3, on my 12.3 mph was 116, on a 11.96 was 121 on 11.90 was 119 and 118. I think with our cars, the way tge ecu+tcu work, a drop in 60 can increase mph if there is no wheelspin.
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Originally Posted by propain
Im curious at to the dyno numbers for PetroC55. The one in his sig are tune only dyno numbers no including the headers?
Yes, tune only.

I plan on going to the same shop again very soon
to see what the headers are worth.

Should get my ECU back on Friday and it's off to the
track this weekend.
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Originally Posted by propain
Yeah rather than derailing this thread even more...


This thread has turned into C63 general discussion. I forget what the OP's post was about...
It was about how happy I am with OE Tuning.
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Originally Posted by PetroC55
Yes, tune only.

I plan on going to the same shop again very soon
to see what the headers are worth.

Should get my ECU back on Friday and it's off to the
track this weekend.
Was your run at 11.8 tune only with DR's?
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Originally Posted by propain
But MHP got it done... lol...

You guys get stock options or something?
No stock options just fast cars.. Nothing to do with who or what I just have some experience with this car and the track for you to think that you can send someone there and he's going to run an 11.6 first time out is a tall order.. I do wish him luck and will sell pointers at $100 a peice at the track that day so...
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Originally Posted by _AMG_
It was about how happy I am with OE Tuning.


Thats right! Your tune is legendary status now.. Good way to get the OE word out there! lol
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Was your run at 11.8 tune only with DR's?
Yes + RENNtech air box.

11.947 @ 116.61 with DR's, carbonio + tune
11.850 @ 118.37 with DR's, RENNtech + tune

It's all here.
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No stock options just fast cars.. Nothing to do with who or what I just have some experience with this car and the track for you to think that you can send someone there and he's going to run an 11.6 first time out is a tall order.. I do wish him luck and will sell pointers at $100 a peice at the track that day so...
About as optimitic as you getting into the 10's with a tune and header only, but ya never know! You still think you can. So here is to hope...

Im looking at the MHP guy getting the 11.6 on DR's. That made it all possible in my mind as I "Think" the OE is just as good as the MHP. Maybe it isnt. The only way to find out is to try. Jon is 140lb's and Dynoed more HP and TQ than Petro. If the dyno translates to the track he might be able to make the mark. Who knows! I wouldnt count him out.
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I've heard good and bad things about every tuner on this forum. I met Jeremy twice he tuned my brother n laws e63.. Seems like a great guy.. I'm not the type of person to talk ***** about anyones product.. My whole point in any of these discusions are dyno's are good for comparisions for same day comps and tuning.. And also dyno numbers do not always translate at the track as we would like... I've said I'm almost every post that I'm a car fan and that competition is important.. Is Mhp the best we will never no unless you owners of other products get your ***'s out there........
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Originally Posted by PetroC55
Yes + RENNtech air box.

11.947 @ 116.61 with DR's, carbonio + tune
11.850 @ 118.37 with DR's, RENNtech + tune

It's all here.
https://mbworld.org/forums/4329481-post64.html
Excellent times!

What dyno did you use?
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Excellent times!

What dyno did you use?
It was a Mustang Dyno.
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Lol
I had it flashed last week with no dyno tune.
the dyno tune made it faster, yes.
That sounds cool. How long did u need to be on the dyno? What needed to be adjusted in your case, if you don't mind sharing? If you do I understand.
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Originally Posted by propain
About as optimitic as you getting into the 10's with a tune and header only, but ya never know! You still think you can. So here is to hope...

Im looking at the MHP guy getting the 11.6 on DR's. That made it all possible in my mind as I "Think" the OE is just as good as the MHP. Maybe it isnt. The only way to find out is to try. Jon is 140lb's and Dynoed more HP and TQ than Petro. If the dyno translates to the track he might be able to make the mark. Who knows! I wouldnt count him out.
Well my statements have been I'm hoping for 10s and prob. Won't get them... But also I've have other non performance oriented products helping.. Hood trunk.. And I'm trying to drop some weight other places.. But that's me.. And I would like to say I've been resurching and working my *** off to put some things together to get there.. I did not get a tune.. And then call out the quickest fastest tune only car out there. And you guys can't even buy your own dr's.. I drop $540.00 on them for every track event like I said this is my 5th.
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I totally agree, how ever, in my car everytime i went quicker my mph increased. When i wheelspun more with the same et as no wheelspin my mph was slower. What your saying holds true, but my mph has been consistant with 119-121 even though my et was 11.9-12.3, on my 12.3 mph was 116, on a 11.96 was 121 on 11.90 was 119 and 118. I think with our cars, the way tge ecu+tcu work, a drop in 60 can increase mph if there is no wheelspin.
I think what you're seeing is the ECU adapt initially to track use vs typical street use. Most 63s seem to go faster on say the 4-6th pass than 1-3. Maybe most cars in general with modern ECUs?

Anyway best of luck to you as well!
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Originally Posted by dodger63
Well my statements have been I'm hoping for 10s and prob. Won't get them... But also I've have other non performance oriented products helping.. Hood trunk.. And I'm trying to drop some weight other places.. But that's me.. And I would like to say I've been resurching and working my *** off to put some things together to get there.. I did not get a tune.. And then call out the quickest fastest tune only car out there. And you guys can't even buy your own dr's.. I drop $540.00 on them for every track event like I said this is my 5th.

Awww.. guess I hit a never with that one. Sad...

I can afford DR's many times over big spender. No need to be a douche. I know what you do for a living bro, you dont have that much cheddar so relax yourself.

So much for all in good fun. Its ok for you to spank it every night for 10's meanwhile Dad's did it with a NOS shot. 11.2 is a far cry from 10.9. But its ok for you to dream about it. Not ok for anyone else to. Got it. I guess that top spot is going to your head. Better get cam's then because dad's is knocking on your door.
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Originally Posted by propain
Excellent times!

What dyno did you use?
More info to consider, the tune only 11.9@116 sec pass from Petro (again props!) was in -1800' DA IIRC. Raleigh's tune only 11.6@120+ (apparently he ran 4-5 back to back 11.6-11.7s@120+) was in -200' DA air. Correcting them both to the same altitude shows a .5 and 5mph difference in the 1/4.
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Originally Posted by RStevens63
I think what you're seeing is the ECU adapt initially to track use vs typical street use. Most 63s seem to go faster on say the 4-6th pass than 1-3. Maybe most cars in general with modern ECUs?

Anyway best of luck to you as well!
Yes the ECU learns your aggressive driving after few hard runs. Its been tested in the real world.


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