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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 07:26 PM
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My $30k Acura TL from 1999 had zero rattles. THAT is the point.
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 09:35 PM
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Ive never seen so much whining about interior rattles in my life.

sure its a 70k car but deal with it. Its not a rolls. Machines/cars make noises AND VIBRATE.
Shouldn't have to "DEAL" with it mate.
The rattles, in a car of this calibre, shouldn't be there in the first place.
The car I had before this, a simple GM product, which cost under half of the C63, had zero rattles when I bought it, and zero rattles when I sold it,... 6 yrs later.
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by breakfast
Ive never seen so much whining about interior rattles in my life.

sure its a 70k car but deal with it. Its not a rolls. Machines/cars make noises AND VIBRATE.
Give me a break...

Maybe you haven't "heard so much whining about rattles" because the C63 has more than most any other car in its class/price range. Glad you have such low expectations for a car... some of us expect (rightfully) more.
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by CoolBDPhenom03
My $30k Acura TL from 1999 had zero rattles. THAT is the point.
that's just an ignorant statement. acura isnt even good build quality. my mother's 05' tl w/ 35k that sits in the garage or has a windsheild sun cover on it dash cracked.Your 30k$ acura doesnt have a 500hp daily drivable engine and amg sport suspension spring rates and dampeners. do you compare your mo-ped to lewis hamilton's f1 car also?
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 12:13 AM
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Look, I put 206k miles on that Acura with no cabin noises that were out of the ordinary. I would expect a higher performance and more luxurious car to at least behave the same.

What you're saying is the faster the car, the more rattles you should expect. So then would Pagani owners expect to be deafened by the rattles generated by their 700hp engines? For $1M I don't think so.
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 12:55 AM
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acuras build quality is great.


and my point was this sounds like Im reading a forum full of 65 yr old women.
oh noes the rattles.

*pstt* ...omg what was that noise. omg car is broken *takes to dealer*


Ive never seen such silliness. turn up the radio or something if your particular car is bad...listen to the exhaust. Do you roll around in complete silence listening for little noises from a complex piece of machinery with thousands of moving parts?

Obviously it shouldnt sound like a bucket of bolts going down the road but the odd creak or rattle is completely normal on any car.

to expect otherwise is short sighted and ignorant ..just my opinion. There really doenst seem to be any serious issues with the car(which should be the most important concern) so your left to complaining about squeaks.

If it bothers some of you that bad maybe spend a weekend trying to *gulp* fix it yourself? Ya Ya I know you "shouldnt have to" cause its a 70k merc. Well that doesnt mean much anymore and most of the dolts at the dealer dont know their *** from a hole in the ground. 70k merc in the past meant a well built tank.
today it means entry level merc with a badass engine.

Just an outsiders view to this thread.

edit: I guess Im disappointed as I come to this thread to read about possible "real" problems and end up reading a bunch of crying about squeaks and rattles.

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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 01:43 AM
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actually most super cars have alot of rattles. if you want a race car for the street thats what your going to get. closest super car thats quiet would be a veyron hence the absurd curb weight for a performance car. if your car rattles so bad than your roads suck, cars been wrecked, your a whiner or you need to take it in and get it fixed. its not going to fix itself. the all magical self healing benz.
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 05:27 AM
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i think its pretty simple, the more parts, tech, POWER the car has the more likely it will rattle here and there...

all cars do it, i have seen people complain about the E63, CLS 63, BMW F10 M5 and so on

yes it annoying, but these car product allot of rotational forces and jolts/shakes that the whole car takes on, which an entery 30k car will never see, plus they have less teach/parts in them to begin with
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by roadtalontsi
actually most super cars have alot of rattles. if you want a race car for the street thats what your going to get. closest super car thats quiet would be a veyron hence the absurd curb weight for a performance car. if your car rattles so bad than your roads suck, cars been wrecked, your a whiner or you need to take it in and get it fixed. its not going to fix itself. the all magical self healing benz.
The C63 isn't a super car nor is it a race car for the street. Compared to cars in its class it has more rattles and squeaks (vs. the M3 anyway). Fixing these things is often not easy or possible and often results in more issues. These are observations from owners and there is no whining involved. There is a reasonable expectation that the car should not have these issues.

I'm having a hard time understanding why you are so defensive about this when it isn't clear that you even own this car.

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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 10:34 AM
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Live with the rattle, heck throw on headers/exhaust and pray it drowns it out.
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 11:23 AM
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Live with the rattle, heck throw on headers/exhaust and pray it drowns it out.
I have those mods and they usually do the trick, but not always.

I've resisted opening up my dash to fix a rattle for fear of it becoming worse. Most rattle complaints have been from the rear sunshade, but that's the nature of that device across all cars that have it. That's too bad. I think someone even resorted to permanently fixing it down so it can never be used just to stop the noise.
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 11:40 AM
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Well, I'll throw my .02 in. I really don't care about squeaks and rattles unless they are excessive. My concerns are mechanical in nature. If there are ongoing issues, I want to know about them.
I've got 7,000 miles and no rattles or squeaks. If they show up, so be it. I'll turn up the stereo.
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 12:10 PM
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Recently I drove 458 Italia I can tell you lot more squicks then my C63 the more I also drove f360 Ferrari full racing version with only 5000km on it and that felt like bucket with bolts down hill so I was glad I have the c63
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by white1
Recently I drove 458 Italia I can tell you lot more squicks then my C63 the more I also drove f360 Ferrari full racing version with only 5000km on it and that felt like bucket with bolts down hill so I was glad I have the c63
2012 -coupe -7600 miles-14months old. No rattles. Smooth south Florida roads .
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by gthal
The C63 isn't a super car nor is it a race car for the street. Compared to cars in its class it has more rattles and squeaks (vs. the M3 anyway). Fixing these things is often not easy or possible and often results in more issues. These are observations from owners and there is no whining involved. There is a reasonable expectation that the car should not have these issues.

I'm having a hard time understanding why you are so defensive about this when it isn't clear that you even own this car.
that's funny because BMW owners come into the store all the time complaining how much their stiffly spring base models and m3s squeaks and rattles. lol.

all cars are going to make SOME noises. it doesn't matter how much you pay for it. use some common sense people....
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 06:44 PM
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that's funny because BMW owners come into the store all the time complaining how much their stiffly spring base models and m3s squeaks and rattles. lol.

all cars are going to make SOME noises. it doesn't matter how much you pay for it. use some common sense people....
Funny my last 2 M3s had no real rattles at all. Neither did my 2 Infiniti G37 coupes. Both of which have suspensions that were similarly stiff. Maybe I was just very lucky.

I agree all cars can rattle. But the 2012 C63 seems to have a MUCH higher level of rattle issues with the updated interior. Pre-2012 cars seem to have less issues. I also agree that paying more doesn't necessarily mean less rattles but, usually, paying more means higher quality fit and finish and more attention to things that rattle... maybe like reducing the number of plastic to plastic contact points, maybe designing your seats so the leather doesn't rub against plastic parts, etc.

If squeaks and rattles don't bother you that's great for you but for many people it is a real annoyance... yes, even for a car with a stiff suspension. Like it or not, people expect more in this regard when spending $80,000+ on a car (and rightfully so IMO).

I'm lucky because my dealer is great at taking care of this stuff. If they weren't, I would have gone so nuts from the squeaks and rattles that I would have sold the car just to stop hearing them. They fixed them all and those noises never came back... I have some new ones now (not surprising) in the B pillar (which I think is the door itself rattling at the latch) but they will take car of that too next time I'm in... let's see that will be my 6th time in for a bad rattle or squeak...

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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 10:56 PM
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Funny my last 2 M3s had no real rattles at all. Neither did my 2 Infiniti G37 coupes. Both of which have suspensions that were similarly stiff. Maybe I was just very lucky.

I agree all cars can rattle. But the 2012 C63 seems to have a MUCH higher level of rattle issues with the updated interior. Pre-2012 cars seem to have less issues. I also agree that paying more doesn't necessarily mean less rattles but, usually, paying more means higher quality fit and finish and more attention to things that rattle... maybe like reducing the number of plastic to plastic contact points, maybe designing your seats so the leather doesn't rub against plastic parts, etc.

If squeaks and rattles don't bother you that's great for you but for many people it is a real annoyance... yes, even for a car with a stiff suspension. Like it or not, people expect more in this regard when spending $80,000+ on a car (and rightfully so IMO).

I'm lucky because my dealer is great at taking care of this stuff. If they weren't, I would have gone so nuts from the squeaks and rattles that I would have sold the car just to stop hearing them. They fixed them all and those noises never came back... I have some new ones now (not surprising) in the B pillar (which I think is the door itself rattling at the latch) but they will take car of that too next time I'm in... let's see that will be my 6th time in for a bad rattle or squeak...
ok thanks for your personal anecdote (again). I am sure your sole experience mirrors the whole world.

I worked for NNA and Infiniti for 5 years and the Gs also rattled but I only drove about 60 of them so what do I know. lol. Oh yeah, and my mother drives one (a relic from my past life, G37sx sedan ).

I bet you go through life pretty disappointed with everything. I am sure you will say, "oh no, I just don't want a squeaky car." Sure man, who DOES?

In fact, I have never driven a car with more than 5000 miles on it that didn't squeak or rattle. Porsches, MB, BMW, Acuras, etc etc. I could recommend some REALLY amazing cars to you for around 70 or 80 grand, but they are all worthless because they squeaked....so nevermind.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 12:44 AM
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ok thanks for your personal anecdote (again). I am sure your sole experience mirrors the whole world.

I worked for NNA and Infiniti for 5 years and the Gs also rattled but I only drove about 60 of them so what do I know. lol. Oh yeah, and my mother drives one (a relic from my past life, G37sx sedan ).

I bet you go through life pretty disappointed with everything. I am sure you will say, "oh no, I just don't want a squeaky car." Sure man, who DOES?

In fact, I have never driven a car with more than 5000 miles on it that didn't squeak or rattle. Porsches, MB, BMW, Acuras, etc etc. I could recommend some REALLY amazing cars to you for around 70 or 80 grand, but they are all worthless because they squeaked....so nevermind.
Wow... you ARE an authority on cars!! Mercedes of Boerne is lucky to have you as an employee. I now realize I shouldn't care about squeaks or rattles in the cars I buy because EVERY car has this issue and I am just being too sensitive. I'm sure your customers appreciate this advice when they buy a car.

I really do feel better now.

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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
ok thanks for your personal anecdote (again). I am sure your sole experience mirrors the whole world.

I worked for NNA and Infiniti for 5 years and the Gs also rattled but I only drove about 60 of them so what do I know. lol. Oh yeah, and my mother drives one (a relic from my past life, G37sx sedan ).

I bet you go through life pretty disappointed with everything. I am sure you will say, "oh no, I just don't want a squeaky car." Sure man, who DOES?

In fact, I have never driven a car with more than 5000 miles on it that didn't squeak or rattle. Porsches, MB, BMW, Acuras, etc etc. I could recommend some REALLY amazing cars to you for around 70 or 80 grand, but they are all worthless because they squeaked....so nevermind.
Not a good post mate.
I don't care what you've driven......we're talking C63s here, we're talking new cars...and .....they rattle.....and they shouldn't.
I've also driven quite a few cars.....the last was a HSV GTO (same as your Pontiac GTO)...had it for 75ks, 6 yrs, less than half price of C63, and.....NO RATTLES.
I, & many many C63 owners, are saying, there are too many rattles in this car, for a car of this calibre.....or, are we all wrong?
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 07:54 AM
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Not a good post mate.
I don't care what you've driven......we're talking C63s here, we're talking new cars...and .....they rattle.....and they shouldn't.
I've also driven quite a few cars.....the last was a HSV GTO (same as your Pontiac GTO)...had it for 75ks, 6 yrs, less than half price of C63, and.....NO RATTLES.
I, & many many C63 owners, are saying, there are too many rattles in this car, for a car of this calibre.....or, are we all wrong?
Cheers, Pickles.
You're right, I was tired and maybe frustrated. Yes, I do think that all cars rattle. That is a general statement.

On a personal statement, no, my C63 does not rattle, maybe a buzz from somewhere in the backseat from time to time. It is leaps and bounds better than any other car I have driven.

My personal anecdote and common sense general knowledge of the car possessed by most people will tell you that all cars either do squeak or they will soon after you put on a few miles.

I also think there may be a discrepancy with what one considers a rattle. There are lots of different noises a car can make. Personally (here we go again, lol), I consider it to be when the trim pieces, which are not moving parts, make noise from rubbing each other or tapping each other, etc. Or loose wires in the dash moving, etc. It depends on the road, the ambient temperature, tire pressure (and tires) you run, modifications to the car, and so on. I think it is reasonable to expect a car (any car) to be noise free going down a smooth highway but there are roads where I just can't see that as realistic. Some roads have rough, hard asphalt, for example, where the frequencies transferred would make a Pontiac come apart completely. If my C63 has a buzz or two when I'm on that kind of road, I'll live.....
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Wow... you ARE an authority on cars!! Mercedes of Boerne is lucky to have you as an employee. I now realize I shouldn't care about squeaks or rattles in the cars I buy because EVERY car has this issue and I am just being too sensitive. I'm sure your customers appreciate this advice when they buy a car.

I really do feel better now.
I would never tell a customer that, no matter where I do or do not work. In fact, it NEVER comes up....People seem to be very reasonable. And yes, if they ask, I would probably tell them, based on all the cars I have experience with, Mercedes has the best fit and finish and excellent build quality. Does that mean you will never hear a squeak? No, I am sure you will at some point in your ownership.

And that is the truth, what I truly believe.

Anyways, I have no problem apologizing for my tone in my previous post. I was an *** to you, so I'm sorry.

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I would never tell a customer that, no matter where I do or do not work. In fact, it NEVER comes up....People seem to be very reasonable. And yes, if they ask, I would probably tell them, based on all the cars I have experience with, Mercedes has the best fit and finish and excellent build quality. Does that mean you will never hear a squeak? No, I am sure you will at some point in your ownership.

And that is the truth, what I truly believe.

Anyways, I have no problem apologizing for my tone in my previous post. I was an *** to you, so I'm sorry.
while i can appreciate the conviction of your comment, customers are probably reasonable because they are sick of the "oh, that's normal" service bull****. MB service will say anything to avoid warranty labor/diagnostic hours. i'll go as far to say that without STAR, they are completely useless. where is the thread about the c63 transmission that ended up causing a fire and totaled the car? "oh, that's normal"

having said that, i have found a great service manager in SE FL. he is a gem amongst endless thorns.
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
You're right, I was tired and maybe frustrated. Yes, I do think that all cars rattle. That is a general statement.

On a personal statement, no, my C63 does not rattle, maybe a buzz from somewhere in the backseat from time to time. It is leaps and bounds better than any other car I have driven.

My personal anecdote and common sense general knowledge of the car possessed by most people will tell you that all cars either do squeak or they will soon after you put on a few miles.

I also think there may be a discrepancy with what one considers a rattle. There are lots of different noises a car can make. Personally (here we go again, lol), I consider it to be when the trim pieces, which are not moving parts, make noise from rubbing each other or tapping each other, etc. Or loose wires in the dash moving, etc. It depends on the road, the ambient temperature, tire pressure (and tires) you run, modifications to the car, and so on. I think it is reasonable to expect a car (any car) to be noise free going down a smooth highway but there are roads where I just can't see that as realistic. Some roads have rough, hard asphalt, for example, where the frequencies transferred would make a Pontiac come apart completely. If my C63 has a buzz or two when I'm on that kind of road, I'll live.....
No worries.
Yes, I'm with you on the "some roads"......"some roads" "create" a noise/ vibration in my dash, A.C. vent area....many owners have experienced it.
Cheers, Pickles.
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
I would never tell a customer that, no matter where I do or do not work. In fact, it NEVER comes up....People seem to be very reasonable. And yes, if they ask, I would probably tell them, based on all the cars I have experience with, Mercedes has the best fit and finish and excellent build quality. Does that mean you will never hear a squeak? No, I am sure you will at some point in your ownership.

And that is the truth, what I truly believe.

Anyways, I have no problem apologizing for my tone in my previous post. I was an *** to you, so I'm sorry.
Hey no worries... we all have bad days and bad posts I shouldn't have come across snarky either.
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