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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 01:42 PM
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 01:48 PM
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I would also like to be driving along a random street and come across a gt-r and c63 bs parked on the street

really like that picture. so how did the C63 bs do?
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 02:02 PM
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This should be very interesting.
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 02:27 PM
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The BS may suprise some folks. I still think the GT-R would prevail, but I expect it to be closer than many may think.
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 02:45 PM
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The BS may suprise some folks. I still think the GT-R would prevail, but I expect it to be closer than many may think.
It really shouldn't be close at all if this is a 2013 GT-R. These things are running low 11's and have even dipped into the 10's stock. C63 BS should be high 11's stock.
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 02:51 PM
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 03:32 PM
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This should be very interesting.
If thats a 2013 GTR the C63 BS will get a royal spanking straight line. Id be interested on how it does on a road course though.
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 03:34 PM
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Agree GTR will likely prevail as mentioned since they are in different league. Look at GTR's ranking (esp the '12 MY) on Top Gear's record list and you will see why all the top dogs in the automotive world are running scared--not a Ferrari faster than the GTR on the current list.
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 03:35 PM
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If thats a 2013 GTR the C63 BS will get a royal spanking straight line. Id be interested on how it does on a road course though.
It'll get spanked straight line or road course. I'm in the process of doing a video review of both cars once I put proper street tires on the BS for a more fair comparison. Even a '11 GTR will run circles around my BS.
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 04:28 PM
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GT-R will win in the performance category for sure.
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 04:29 PM
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It'll get spanked straight line or road course. I'm in the process of doing a video review of both cars once I put proper street tires on the BS for a more fair comparison. Even a '11 GTR will run circles around my BS.
Yeah, I kinda figured. Looking forward to the video review. Post it up here when you can.
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Well, I reckon the the GTR would certainly be a much faster than the B.S., so, in terms of "speed", the GTR would be well ahead.
But really, I don't think any real comparison can be made, because they are two different sorts of cars.
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 06:54 PM
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anyone else see the other white car in front?
that's just the pace car
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GT-R will walk on a BS in every test

GT-R is in the 2 second club to 60, runs 10.80s and will murder the BS around the track with the dual clutch and AWD
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 07:56 PM
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anyone else see the other white car in front?
I did, lol.
Looks like a LP560 to me.
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GT-R will walk on a BS in every test

GT-R is in the 2 second club to 60, runs 10.80s and will murder the BS around the track with the dual clutch and AWD
Funny how we have see all of 1 GTR run 10.8 and now its the norm.

Im not saying it wont replicate it but most mags have the GTR running 11 to 11.1

Not question though and I agree it will walk the C63 BS in every way. I would be surprised if a stock C63 BS gets below an 11.9 on street tires.
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 08:33 PM
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Funny how we have see all of 1 GTR run 10.8 and now its the norm.

Im not saying it wont replicate it but most mags have the GTR running 11 to 11.1

Not question though and I agree it will walk the C63 BS in every way. I would be surprised if a stock C63 BS gets below an 11.9 on street tires.
Do you know if the C63 BS comes with race start? If so, don't be too surprised if it runs below 11.9.

WWMIndy just ran 11.990 @ 116.29 with a 1.829 60' on street tires inflated to 42 psi. His mods are tune, filters, ROWs, and catback exhaust.
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 08:48 PM
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Do you know if the C63 BS comes with race start? If so, don't be too surprised if it runs below 11.9.

WWMIndy just ran 11.990 @ 116.29 with a 1.829 60' on street tires inflated to 42 psi. His mods are tune, filters, ROWs, and catback exhaust.
I would think it has race start. I guess time will tell. 11.9 on street tires on the street would be a good time for the BS. I cant imagine it getting much under that.

My C63 even with a tune on street tires on the street couldnt get under a 12 Vbox. It just spins to much.
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 08:56 PM
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I did, lol.
Looks like a LP560 to me.
Must be its big brother.
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Funny how we have see all of 1 GTR run 10.8 and now its the norm.

Im not saying it wont replicate it but most mags have the GTR running 11 to 11.1

Not question though and I agree it will walk the C63 BS in every way. I would be surprised if a stock C63 BS gets below an 11.9 on street tires.
That's 2....

http://www.motortrend.com/features/a...10_second_car/

http://www.worldcarfans.com/11204264...e-quarter-mile

And that's definitely an Aventador in front
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Do you know if the C63 BS comes with race start? If so, don't be too surprised if it runs below 11.9.
It does. My right foot in M mode is 0.2s faster 0-60, verified by AMG Performance Media.
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Not the norm... That first link you posted is from Nov of 2011 and was from a Japan spec track pack car.... so yeah.. back to 1.




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Not the norm... That first link you posted is from Nov of 2011 and was from a Japan spec track pack car.... so yeah.. back to 1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpunSGuHK7M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50ebNYhnGPQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT2EL7iwGkw

You can't disqualify just because it shoots down your point

Even the cars that are runnin 11.0s -11.10s are trappin 125 so the only difference is the 60 foot

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its a fail if the black series cant compete with the gtr. especially around the track. its the flagship offering from amg and is 20-30K dollars more expensive. and im sure its probably no more comfortable to drive than the gtr.

obviously it looks classier, but...
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