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How to do Oil Change on your C63 at Home!
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I use one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Assenmacher-Sp...sim_sbs_auto_3
You'll be how much that helps. Just twist it on and dump the oil in.
http://www.amazon.com/Assenmacher-Sp...sim_sbs_auto_3
You'll be how much that helps. Just twist it on and dump the oil in.
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I can say that using 0W40 in my 2008 C63 that I had a lifter stick only happened once and you can hear a slight ticking under cold start up in colder weather until the oil is at operating temperature.
You guys use funnels? amateurs... turn the bottle of oil on its side it pours easy when its all empty take it and rest in upside down in the oil filler hole Mobil one fits perfectly.
Other thing is personally I wouldn't use wix filter in my C63 its oem or higher the oem quality only.
I am using K&N performance filters no problems with them at all when I have the charcoal filters in... as soon as I removed the charcoal filters it got lean error codes car ran like a champ though. I bought a star diagnostic so I can see what exactly is happening... I am guessing its flowing more air then what the computer knows to do with.
You guys use funnels? amateurs... turn the bottle of oil on its side it pours easy when its all empty take it and rest in upside down in the oil filler hole Mobil one fits perfectly.
Other thing is personally I wouldn't use wix filter in my C63 its oem or higher the oem quality only.
I am using K&N performance filters no problems with them at all when I have the charcoal filters in... as soon as I removed the charcoal filters it got lean error codes car ran like a champ though. I bought a star diagnostic so I can see what exactly is happening... I am guessing its flowing more air then what the computer knows to do with.
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Thank you for the DIY.. good post!
All the dealers (Seattle Area/ Bellingham) I have talked to use Mobile 1 ESP Formula M 5w-40, I have not found one dealer that uses Mobile 1 Formula M 5w-40. I will ask about the part# q-1-09-0111.
Some say it is ok to use ESP, some say no.. still unsure about ESP .. I remember AMG Private Lounge recommending Formula M 5w-40, NOT the ESP version..
All the dealers (Seattle Area/ Bellingham) I have talked to use Mobile 1 ESP Formula M 5w-40, I have not found one dealer that uses Mobile 1 Formula M 5w-40. I will ask about the part# q-1-09-0111.
Some say it is ok to use ESP, some say no.. still unsure about ESP .. I remember AMG Private Lounge recommending Formula M 5w-40, NOT the ESP version..
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To definitively answer all of the discussion about proper oil acceptability, go here:
http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/o...tedDocId=10119
To assure everyone that the ESP formula M from Mobil 1 is approved go here:
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.51_en.html
Here you will see that "Mobil 1 ESP Formula M 5W-40" is the only Mobil 1 oil approved under 229.51.
MB Spec 229.5 is still valid for the M156 engine and 0W-40 is OK. The Mobil 1 version for this spec is Mobil 1 Formula M 0W-40. However, MB personnel that respond to inquires on the AMG Private Lounge always respond with the MB 229.51 as the current spec for the M156.
Hopefully this will address concerns about the right oil(s) for the M156 engine.
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To definitively answer all of the discussion about proper oil acceptability, go here:
http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/o...tedDocId=10119
To assure everyone that the ESP formula M from Mobil 1 is approved go here:
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.51_en.html
Here you will see that "Mobil 1 ESP Formula M 5W-40" is the only Mobil 1 oil approved under 229.51.
MB Spec 229.5 is still valid for the M156 engine and 0W-40 is OK. The Mobil 1 version for this spec is Mobil 1 Formula M 0W-40. However, MB personnel that respond to inquires on the AMG Private Lounge always respond with the MB 229.51 as the current spec for the M156.
Hopefully this will address concerns about the right oil(s) for the M156 engine.
Regards,
Joe
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All,
To definitively answer all of the discussion about proper oil acceptability, go here:
http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/o...tedDocId=10119
To assure everyone that the ESP formula M from Mobil 1 is approved go here:
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.51_en.html
Here you will see that "Mobil 1 ESP Formula M 5W-40" is the only Mobil 1 oil approved under 229.51.
MB Spec 229.5 is still valid for the M156 engine and 0W-40 is OK. The Mobil 1 version for this spec is Mobil 1 Formula M 0W-40. However, MB personnel that respond to inquires on the AMG Private Lounge always respond with the MB 229.51 as the current spec for the M156.
Hopefully this will address concerns about the right oil(s) for the M156 engine.
Regards,
Joe
To definitively answer all of the discussion about proper oil acceptability, go here:
http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/o...tedDocId=10119
To assure everyone that the ESP formula M from Mobil 1 is approved go here:
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.51_en.html
Here you will see that "Mobil 1 ESP Formula M 5W-40" is the only Mobil 1 oil approved under 229.51.
MB Spec 229.5 is still valid for the M156 engine and 0W-40 is OK. The Mobil 1 version for this spec is Mobil 1 Formula M 0W-40. However, MB personnel that respond to inquires on the AMG Private Lounge always respond with the MB 229.51 as the current spec for the M156.
Hopefully this will address concerns about the right oil(s) for the M156 engine.
Regards,
Joe
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Meh, 0w40 has been fine with me. just gotta keep them oil changes on schedule.
I might switch over to rotella T6 once warranty is over. It's meant for diesel but has much more detergent and zinc in there for wear protection.
I might switch over to rotella T6 once warranty is over. It's meant for diesel but has much more detergent and zinc in there for wear protection.
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Yooker, First of all do you use a hairnet for your floppy ears while under the car? Also I am impressed with the apparent dexterity you show with those big mitts....
What is the basis for the single point jack point you show? Very interested because it is a much easier method of hoisting the beast.
Next, readers may be interested in a surprise source here in WA for 0-40 Mobil 1... that is if you'e not too fastidious. Right, suddenly WALMART sells it for $6.80, much better than friendly Auto Zone @ $8. I notice WM can barely keep it stocked.
What is the basis for the single point jack point you show? Very interested because it is a much easier method of hoisting the beast.
Next, readers may be interested in a surprise source here in WA for 0-40 Mobil 1... that is if you'e not too fastidious. Right, suddenly WALMART sells it for $6.80, much better than friendly Auto Zone @ $8. I notice WM can barely keep it stocked.
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Yooker, First of all do you use a hairnet for your floppy ears while under the car? Also I am impressed with the apparent dexterity you show with those big mitts....
What is the basis for the single point jack point you show? Very interested because it is a much easier method of hoisting the beast.
Next, readers may be interested in a surprise source here in WA for 0-40 Mobil 1... that is if you'e not too fastidious. Right, suddenly WALMART sells it for $6.80, much better than friendly Auto Zone @ $8. I notice WM can barely keep it stocked.
What is the basis for the single point jack point you show? Very interested because it is a much easier method of hoisting the beast.
Next, readers may be interested in a surprise source here in WA for 0-40 Mobil 1... that is if you'e not too fastidious. Right, suddenly WALMART sells it for $6.80, much better than friendly Auto Zone @ $8. I notice WM can barely keep it stocked.
Yes, I also noticed Wally World to have started selling 0-40. Not sure when that started, but it's definitely within the past year.
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Yooker, First of all do you use a hairnet for your floppy ears while under the car? Also I am impressed with the apparent dexterity you show with those big mitts....
What is the basis for the single point jack point you show? Very interested because it is a much easier method of hoisting the beast.
Next, readers may be interested in a surprise source here in WA for 0-40 Mobil 1... that is if you'e not too fastidious. Right, suddenly WALMART sells it for $6.80, much better than friendly Auto Zone @ $8. I notice WM can barely keep it stocked.
What is the basis for the single point jack point you show? Very interested because it is a much easier method of hoisting the beast.
Next, readers may be interested in a surprise source here in WA for 0-40 Mobil 1... that is if you'e not too fastidious. Right, suddenly WALMART sells it for $6.80, much better than friendly Auto Zone @ $8. I notice WM can barely keep it stocked.
Single jack point is the only way to lift the front of the car while placing it on jack stands.
I ain't crawling under a jack thats not on jackstands.
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Yooker, I love the dog costume video. No offense on my "hairnet" ref, I hope.....
Anyway with regard to your one point lift of the REALLY HEAVY front of the C 63. I would like to lift there, but could not find any MB info (what's new) on lift points other than the 4 pads. Kinda scary if that cross member bends and affects camber etc?? So without a lift I go thru a huge PITA to hoist the beast for oil change , etc. Motoman
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Yooker, I love the dog costume video. No offense on my "hairnet" ref, I hope.....
Anyway with regard to your one point lift of the REALLY HEAVY front of the C 63. I would like to lift there, but could not find any MB info (what's new) on lift points other than the 4 pads. Kinda scary if that cross member bends and affects camber etc?? So without a lift I go thru a huge PITA to hoist the beast for oil change , etc. Motoman
If you are uncomfortable using the cross member, use the knuckle on each control arm, then place the jack stands at the jack points.
However!!!!!
This will require you jacking the vehicle twice, once from each side, which is not safe when using jack stands, as when you jack the second side up, the vehicle may shift, causing the first jackstand to move, and possbly dropping the car..
Side note, the stock jack points are ****, my drive side front broke off while jacking up the car messing up the lower skirt, fortunately I release the air valve in time to not cause any major damage other than to the plastic parts.
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You need the Reverse Logic jack pads...I always keep a couple in the trunk. I think they're indispensable for the DIY'er.
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If you are uncomfortable using the cross member, use the knuckle on each control arm, then place the jack stands at the jack points.
However!!!!!
This will require you jacking the vehicle twice, once from each side, which is not safe when using jack stands, as when you jack the second side up, the vehicle may shift, causing the first jackstand to move, and possbly dropping the car..
Side note, the stock jack points are ****, my drive side front broke off while jacking up the car messing up the lower skirt, fortunately I release the air valve in time to not cause any major damage other than to the plastic parts.
However!!!!!
This will require you jacking the vehicle twice, once from each side, which is not safe when using jack stands, as when you jack the second side up, the vehicle may shift, causing the first jackstand to move, and possbly dropping the car..
Side note, the stock jack points are ****, my drive side front broke off while jacking up the car messing up the lower skirt, fortunately I release the air valve in time to not cause any major damage other than to the plastic parts.
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What do you C63 folks do with the one point lift location at the rear? Do you lift up on the differential? The problem for me is, the current E's (W212) rear diff has those ?thermal diffuser things that cannot take a jack underneath.
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Screwy is right. Same rhyme and verse in rear. I have not changed the LSD fluid in 3 years, but remember very tedious excercise. Jacked both sides and finally found two jackstand points. Again I think it was the aluminum that stopped me, and of course no help from MB.
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That single lift point at the front of the car is there for a reason. So that a floor jack can be used to lift the front half of the car. Keep in mind you are only lifting 1/2 the weight of the car since the back wheels are still on the ground. The cross member is very very very sturdy if you've ever looked at it with the bottom underpanels all off.
I've also lifted the front of a W164 from the same cross member point before. W164 is MUCH heavier than W204, so it's really not an issue. Just remember to use jackstands when you are under the car.
For the rear of the car, I just lift on the differential.
I've also lifted the front of a W164 from the same cross member point before. W164 is MUCH heavier than W204, so it's really not an issue. Just remember to use jackstands when you are under the car.
For the rear of the car, I just lift on the differential.
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Yooker, Please accept this further question not as criticism. It looks like you have cut an access hole through the plastic cover to reach the lift point you use. Have you seen MB diagrams or text that select this point for lift?
At least part of the reason for asking is my perception that resale of these expensive cars may involve "fingerprinting," e.g., has anyone treated this car badly? On a hoist an MB "tech" may issue a bad report card if there are suspect lift points.
The main issue is bending or work hardening. As note I am really leery of placing support under the various aluminum suspension pieces. Please do not think I am a typical MB owner . I prefer your method.
At least part of the reason for asking is my perception that resale of these expensive cars may involve "fingerprinting," e.g., has anyone treated this car badly? On a hoist an MB "tech" may issue a bad report card if there are suspect lift points.
The main issue is bending or work hardening. As note I am really leery of placing support under the various aluminum suspension pieces. Please do not think I am a typical MB owner . I prefer your method.
