How to do Oil Change on your C63 at Home!
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Where is the oil cooler drain on the 2012 coupe ? I removed the mid and rearmost plastic trays and was only able to access the oil pan drainplug. 8.25 qts came out through the pan drain. I was so cramped- and pressed for time- I didn't bother removing the front panel, which has about 10 fasteners. I did this change at 4500mi. after wanting to do it at 2000mi., but never getting at it til this week. My low profile jack couldn't reach the front mid jack point ( too short) , so I drove it up on some Rhino ramps, transitioning from 2 x 12 's . Next time I'll put some 2 x 12 's under the rears also to give myself more clearance for working under the car.
I figured more oil was in the cooler than 3/4 qt.
I'll stick to my 5000mi oil change interval. I plan on logging 15,000mi/yr.
btw I always chock the rears and place jackstands under the front jack points, I don't trust the rhino ramps or even cheap jackstands .
I figured more oil was in the cooler than 3/4 qt.
I'll stick to my 5000mi oil change interval. I plan on logging 15,000mi/yr.
btw I always chock the rears and place jackstands under the front jack points, I don't trust the rhino ramps or even cheap jackstands .
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Where is the oil cooler drain on the 2012 coupe ? I removed the mid and rearmost plastic trays and was only able to access the oil pan drainplug. 8.25 qts came out through the pan drain. I was so cramped- and pressed for time- I didn't bother removing the front panel, which has about 10 fasteners. I did this change at 4500mi. after wanting to do it at 2000mi., but never getting at it til this week. My low profile jack couldn't reach the front mid jack point ( too short) , so I drove it up on some Rhino ramps, transitioning from 2 x 12 's . Next time I'll put some 2 x 12 's under the rears also to give myself more clearance for working under the car.
I figured more oil was in the cooler than 3/4 qt.
I'll stick to my 5000mi oil change interval. I plan on logging 15,000mi/yr.
btw I always chock the rears and place jackstands under the front jack points, I don't trust the rhino ramps or even cheap jackstands .
I figured more oil was in the cooler than 3/4 qt.
I'll stick to my 5000mi oil change interval. I plan on logging 15,000mi/yr.
btw I always chock the rears and place jackstands under the front jack points, I don't trust the rhino ramps or even cheap jackstands .
Last edited by motoman; Nov 17, 2012 at 01:41 PM. Reason: mod jack stands
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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
There is actually quite a bit of oil in the oil cooler. Both my indy and myself were surprised at the amount in the cooler when my car's oil was changed about a month ago. My indy also pointed to the same frontal crossmember with the rubber pad as a safe front central jacking point. This coming from a trusted indy who has extensive experience with MB's. However, it's only accessible after removing the undertray unless you cut the tray.
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There is actually quite a bit of oil in the oil cooler. Both my indy and myself were surprised at the amount in the cooler when my car's oil was changed about a month ago. My indy also pointed to the same frontal crossmember with the rubber pad as a safe front central jacking point. This coming from a trusted indy who has extensive experience with MB's. However, it's only accessible after removing the undertray unless you cut the tray.
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In case anyone is still afraid of bending the subframe.
The Acura jackpoint for a TL (similar weight as the w204) is just a tow hook in the rear.
Here is where the jack point is located on the C63 from one that is on the lift
Also for all of those who have trouble getting the jack under the front lift point because of it's depth.
http://www.harborfreight.com/automot...ump-68050.html
This jack will reach it no problem. It is extremely low and long.
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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
Now why can't MB publish a diagram like Honda did for their customers! I see the front central jacking point is easily accessed in that pix. I wonder if it's different for W212. I will have to roll under my car to check it out. Yes, the oil cooler bolt is at the front right on the passenger side of US cars. By the way, the oil cooler bolt will have a paint marking on it if it's never opened. My indy pointed that out to me. Just another evidence that the stealership didn't really do what the factory recommended.
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Now why can't MB publish a diagram like Honda did for their customers! I see the front central jacking point is easily accessed in that pix. I wonder if it's different for W212. I will have to roll under my car to check it out. Yes, the oil cooler bolt is at the front right on the passenger side of US cars. By the way, the oil cooler bolt will have a paint marking on it if it's never opened. My indy pointed that out to me. Just another evidence that the stealership didn't really do what the factory recommended.
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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
Mercedes-Benz has published diagrams. The five jack points are noted in both the WIS and the STAR Classic DVD. Here is an MBCA article from six years ago that discusses jack points.
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I can say that using 0W40 in my 2008 C63 that I had a lifter stick only happened once and you can hear a slight ticking under cold start up in colder weather until the oil is at operating temperature.
You guys use funnels? amateurs... turn the bottle of oil on its side it pours easy when its all empty take it and rest in upside down in the oil filler hole Mobil one fits perfectly.
Other thing is personally I wouldn't use wix filter in my C63 its oem or higher the oem quality only.
I am using K&N performance filters no problems with them at all when I have the charcoal filters in... as soon as I removed the charcoal filters it got lean error codes car ran like a champ though. I bought a star diagnostic so I can see what exactly is happening... I am guessing its flowing more air then what the computer knows to do with.
You guys use funnels? amateurs... turn the bottle of oil on its side it pours easy when its all empty take it and rest in upside down in the oil filler hole Mobil one fits perfectly.
Other thing is personally I wouldn't use wix filter in my C63 its oem or higher the oem quality only.
I am using K&N performance filters no problems with them at all when I have the charcoal filters in... as soon as I removed the charcoal filters it got lean error codes car ran like a champ though. I bought a star diagnostic so I can see what exactly is happening... I am guessing its flowing more air then what the computer knows to do with.
The Wix filter is actually the same Hengst filter that comes OEM or that you buy at the dealer.
Did the top side oil change today as an interim at 5k miles before full service. Just like my old S4, piece o' cake - 20 mins in street clothes with rubber gloves and no spills, drips or anything else. Nice.
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All,
To definitively answer all of the discussion about proper oil acceptability, go here:
http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/o...tedDocId=10119
To assure everyone that the ESP formula M from Mobil 1 is approved go here:
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.51_en.html
Here you will see that "Mobil 1 ESP Formula M 5W-40" is the only Mobil 1 oil approved under 229.51.
MB Spec 229.5 is still valid for the M156 engine and 0W-40 is OK. The Mobil 1 version for this spec is Mobil 1 Formula M 0W-40. However, MB personnel that respond to inquires on the AMG Private Lounge always respond with the MB 229.51 as the current spec for the M156.
Hopefully this will address concerns about the right oil(s) for the M156 engine.
Regards,
Joe
To definitively answer all of the discussion about proper oil acceptability, go here:
http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/o...tedDocId=10119
To assure everyone that the ESP formula M from Mobil 1 is approved go here:
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.51_en.html
Here you will see that "Mobil 1 ESP Formula M 5W-40" is the only Mobil 1 oil approved under 229.51.
MB Spec 229.5 is still valid for the M156 engine and 0W-40 is OK. The Mobil 1 version for this spec is Mobil 1 Formula M 0W-40. However, MB personnel that respond to inquires on the AMG Private Lounge always respond with the MB 229.51 as the current spec for the M156.
Hopefully this will address concerns about the right oil(s) for the M156 engine.
Regards,
Joe
However, at the AMG academy they are using the 0W-40.
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If you change your own oil, do you still take it in for Service A, B, etc? (but tell them not to change oil)... Or else how do you get rid of the service light?
Finally, is your warranty at risk if you DIY on oil changes?
Finally, is your warranty at risk if you DIY on oil changes?
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MB will want proof that the services have been done. If you do the service yourself you do not have to take it in except for any items you could not do yourself. You can reset the service indicator yourself. https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...ator-guide.pdf
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tfthatch13 is correct - the oil changes are at least partially due to emissions standards. Mobil 1 0W40 has a better additive package and wear protection than the Formula M 5W40, but this makes it worse in terms of what's coming out of your tailpipe and is unsuitable for use in MB's diesels with the fine particulate filters so Benz is pushing the Formula M.
And, AFAIK the Formula M ESP 5W40 is going to replace the Formula M 5W40 everywhere since it now also has 229.51 approval as valvestud pointed out above.
And, AFAIK the Formula M ESP 5W40 is going to replace the Formula M 5W40 everywhere since it now also has 229.51 approval as valvestud pointed out above.
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On the subject of oil changes - doesn't MB now siphon out the oil completely instead of just draining it?
I've heard that on some new cars (not MB in particular) you can't even drain the oil completely from the sump...
I've heard that on some new cars (not MB in particular) you can't even drain the oil completely from the sump...
