2011+ euro spec mirror retrofit
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2011+ euro spec mirror retrofit
Before everyone chimes in and says its plug and play its not the case... I have bought two different sets of mirrors. Each had issues. This set I got from a trustworth memeber here since I got screwed the first time he went out of his way to help me out... he tested the mirrors on his car in europe they work perfectly.
I installed the mirrors on my car this morning they work but not 100% everything works fine manually, ie folding, blinking, movement. I tested the heating and dimming with Xentry and its all working fine.
Here is where the problem lies... the memory will not work either by manually programming it in the car by pressing m and then a number button for the mirrors or with Xentry its just displaying 0 for the position.
Second problem is its throwing these codes
I am betting I need euro spec door modules anyone one else run into this ... maybe a software update??
btw I think Canadian cars have different options then american when it comes to mirrors.
I installed the mirrors on my car this morning they work but not 100% everything works fine manually, ie folding, blinking, movement. I tested the heating and dimming with Xentry and its all working fine.
Here is where the problem lies... the memory will not work either by manually programming it in the car by pressing m and then a number button for the mirrors or with Xentry its just displaying 0 for the position.
Second problem is its throwing these codes
I am betting I need euro spec door modules anyone one else run into this ... maybe a software update??
btw I think Canadian cars have different options then american when it comes to mirrors.
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Got mine from Europe too and only the folding and memory features do not work. Since my car is US spec the folding was not existing prior. I'm not too sure about the memory tho as i don't remember (will have to test it).
I was thinking i could get these two working via programming
. Will check next time i'll pay a visit to the dealership.
I was thinking i could get these two working via programming
. Will check next time i'll pay a visit to the dealership.
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I had a similar issue when I installed the euro facelifted mirrors. The passenger side mirror had no memory and did not tilt in reverse. I took out the motor from my old one and installed it on the new one. Had to do some rewiring as my stock mirror had more wires probably to support the memory function etc. Hope this helps.
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Got mine from Europe too and only the folding and memory features do not work. Since my car is US spec the folding was not existing prior. I'm not too sure about the memory tho as i don't remember (will have to test it).
I was thinking i could get these two working via programming. Will check next time i'll pay a visit to the dealership.
I was thinking i could get these two working via programming
. Will check next time i'll pay a visit to the dealership.
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I just picked up the latest door module from 2012 and it does nothing connected to my car I am going to fire up xentry and see what its saying.
Since you have euro spec ill let you know if i find out a solution to my problem it should also make everything your looking to do possible as well
Since you have euro spec ill let you know if i find out a solution to my problem it should also make everything your looking to do possible as well
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i got a set cheap because someone cut the wires. took a bit of work but was able to pretty much put all of the electronic components of my 09 mirrors into the new ones so then it was plug and play. they never did fold but everything else worked.
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We figured what the problem is... they don't have the memory feature built into the mirror.
The mirror motor is a standard motor and it wont allow the memory feature to work.
I may have an obsidian black set of mirrors up for sale shortly if your looking to upgrade your w204 to face lift mirrors with auto dim drivers side, heated and folding. Let me know.
The mirror motor is a standard motor and it wont allow the memory feature to work.
I may have an obsidian black set of mirrors up for sale shortly if your looking to upgrade your w204 to face lift mirrors with auto dim drivers side, heated and folding. Let me know.
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We figured what the problem is... they don't have the memory feature built into the mirror.
The mirror motor is a standard motor and it wont allow the memory feature to work.
I may have an obsidian black set of mirrors up for sale shortly if your looking to upgrade your w204 to face lift mirrors with auto dim drivers side, heated and folding. Let me know.
The mirror motor is a standard motor and it wont allow the memory feature to work.
I may have an obsidian black set of mirrors up for sale shortly if your looking to upgrade your w204 to face lift mirrors with auto dim drivers side, heated and folding. Let me know.
Otherwise, can you please verify that these work properly for our Canadian cars:
1. Folding on door lock
2. Blinking on signal
3. Heating
4. Tilt-Down on Reverse
5. Auto-Dim
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Memory and easy parking feature that turns the passenger mirror down are missing.
I don't know who you got yours from but I can say after buying 2 sets both wrong yours will probably be wrong as well.
There are various different configurations of the mirrors
Basic
Which blink, and can be adjusted.
Blinking, adjustment, Folding, Heated, Auto Dim.
Fully Loaded
Blinking, Adjustment , Folding, Heated, Auto Dim, Memory, Convenience
Newest
Blinking, Adjustment , Folding, Heated, Auto Dim, Memory, Convenience, Blind Spot Warning
I don't know who you got yours from but I can say after buying 2 sets both wrong yours will probably be wrong as well.
There are various different configurations of the mirrors
Basic
Which blink, and can be adjusted.
Blinking, adjustment, Folding, Heated, Auto Dim.
Fully Loaded
Blinking, Adjustment , Folding, Heated, Auto Dim, Memory, Convenience
Newest
Blinking, Adjustment , Folding, Heated, Auto Dim, Memory, Convenience, Blind Spot Warning
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Like I've said you just need to transfer your motor from your stock mirrors and some rewiring and you're good to go. I had the same problem when I installed them.
The rewiring is plug and play and is straightforward. It just takes time though. I am in the area and can help you guys out if you need. But if you prefer to keep the stock mirrors intact then I guess there's no other option.
The rewiring is plug and play and is straightforward. It just takes time though. I am in the area and can help you guys out if you need. But if you prefer to keep the stock mirrors intact then I guess there's no other option.
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I might take you up on that when mine come in, depending on how well they work. I don't care about seat memory but I'd like to keep the reverse assist and those two features would seem to be linked.
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Like I've said you just need to transfer your motor from your stock mirrors and some rewiring and you're good to go. I had the same problem when I installed them.
The rewiring is plug and play and is straightforward. It just takes time though. I am in the area and can help you guys out if you need. But if you prefer to keep the stock mirrors intact then I guess there's no other option.
The rewiring is plug and play and is straightforward. It just takes time though. I am in the area and can help you guys out if you need. But if you prefer to keep the stock mirrors intact then I guess there's no other option.
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Not a problem! Just let me know. Hope you got the right one though so you won't have to spend unnecessary time on them.
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Like I've said you just need to transfer your motor from your stock mirrors and some rewiring and you're good to go. I had the same problem when I installed them.
The rewiring is plug and play and is straightforward. It just takes time though. I am in the area and can help you guys out if you need. But if you prefer to keep the stock mirrors intact then I guess there's no other option.
The rewiring is plug and play and is straightforward. It just takes time though. I am in the area and can help you guys out if you need. But if you prefer to keep the stock mirrors intact then I guess there's no other option.
hang on are the motors responsible for folding action or just adjustment of the mirror? Since i have a US spec car my original motors won't fold
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There are two motors, one for the adjustment of the glass and one for the folding.
If you send me your vin ill look up the proper motorized housing you need for your face lift mirrors to fold. Without looking at those motors I don't know if they are interchangeable but I am pretty sure you can't buy them separate you have to buy it with the bottom assembly of the mirror the part that hooks to the car door.
If you send me your vin ill look up the proper motorized housing you need for your face lift mirrors to fold. Without looking at those motors I don't know if they are interchangeable but I am pretty sure you can't buy them separate you have to buy it with the bottom assembly of the mirror the part that hooks to the car door.
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There are two motors, one for the adjustment of the glass and one for the folding.
If you send me your vin ill look up the proper motorized housing you need for your face lift mirrors to fold. Without looking at those motors I don't know if they are interchangeable but I am pretty sure you can't buy them separate you have to buy it with the bottom assembly of the mirror the part that hooks to the car door.
If you send me your vin ill look up the proper motorized housing you need for your face lift mirrors to fold. Without looking at those motors I don't know if they are interchangeable but I am pretty sure you can't buy them separate you have to buy it with the bottom assembly of the mirror the part that hooks to the car door.
Are you able to see with my vin if i have the memory feature? Or i'll connect my original mirror and check tonight.
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Should be able to by the datacard on your car.
It's also easy to tell if you pop the panel off in your door I believe if its setup for folding there will be two wires on the white connector in spot 1 and 2.
I don't know if its rumor but i have heard american cars don't come with folding mirrors for some reason.
It's also easy to tell if you pop the panel off in your door I believe if its setup for folding there will be two wires on the white connector in spot 1 and 2.
I don't know if its rumor but i have heard american cars don't come with folding mirrors for some reason.
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Yup Andrew is right. I was talking about the mirror motor and not the folding one.
My mirrors were folding fine so all I needed to do was to transfer the stock motor over. And yes I can always revert the motor back to the stock mirror if needed.
Don't think the folding motor is an easy swap though. I could be wrong.
My mirrors were folding fine so all I needed to do was to transfer the stock motor over. And yes I can always revert the motor back to the stock mirror if needed.
Don't think the folding motor is an easy swap though. I could be wrong.
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Like I've said you just need to transfer your motor from your stock mirrors and some rewiring and you're good to go. I had the same problem when I installed them.
The rewiring is plug and play and is straightforward. It just takes time though. I am in the area and can help you guys out if you need. But if you prefer to keep the stock mirrors intact then I guess there's no other option.
The rewiring is plug and play and is straightforward. It just takes time though. I am in the area and can help you guys out if you need. But if you prefer to keep the stock mirrors intact then I guess there's no other option.
I looked up the parts number for the wire ends of which I need 14 each side a buck or two it gets costly... plus I am going to have to track down some oem quality wire as well... however I am not one for short cuts and wont splice wires etc it has to be 100% oem or nothing...
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Yeah you are right. When I did the transplant it was a tight fit and barely made it. I always thought it's due to the way I wired it.
There is not much slack in the wires right now and is pretty taut but there should be enough wire to make it work. Before plugging the mirror's connector into the door module, first try to remove the other connectors that are connected to the door module. That should make it easier for you to plug the mirror's connector into the module
Also, I did not have to splice any wires.
There is not much slack in the wires right now and is pretty taut but there should be enough wire to make it work. Before plugging the mirror's connector into the door module, first try to remove the other connectors that are connected to the door module. That should make it easier for you to plug the mirror's connector into the module
Also, I did not have to splice any wires.
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Well wiring them the same path that the factory did mine are 4 to 5 inches shorter then they are supposed to be.
I just found out the connectors to remake the wiring for that motor will cost close to 100 dollars plus I still have to source the correct wire.
I just found out the connectors to remake the wiring for that motor will cost close to 100 dollars plus I still have to source the correct wire.
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4-5 inches? Yeah my wires were definitely not that far off.
That's really odd..especially when you were able to install the new mirrors before you did the transplant. It's hard to tell. I will have to take a look at it in person. I've sent you a PM and the other guy in my PM might be able to help you as well. Perhaps way more than me
That's really odd..especially when you were able to install the new mirrors before you did the transplant. It's hard to tell. I will have to take a look at it in person. I've sent you a PM and the other guy in my PM might be able to help you as well. Perhaps way more than me
